Beans from 1985

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by GrandfatherRat, Jan 9, 2017.


    GrandfatherRat Active Member

    Many thanks! Your journey into the world of landraces and heirloom strains has been an inspiration to me, and I plan to make the most of this find.
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    vostok Well-Known Member

    imo: Insert sandpaper to line a cup

    drop in seeds

    attach lid shake like mad for 1-2 mins

    drop seeds to a warm glass of water

    with a teaspoon of aloe vera juice or a pinch of dish soap(surfactant)

    once seeds sink remove to damp paper towel

    goodl uck
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2017

    Strocat Well-Known Member

    the way I pop all my beans and get 90 + % germ rates is by doing this.

    Put my seeds in a shot glass of water.. I first mix a gallon of water with superthrive or HB-101 (free samples on their site) ... soak for 24 hours.. then to paper towel and in a baggie. place ontop of satellite DVR box (one corner with hardrive will be real warm) within 48-72 hours I have at the very least a cracked bean if not a tiny root.. then I plant into a solo cup filled with seedling soil. Grow 7 days.. transplant to 1 gallon for 9 days.. transplant to 5 gallon.. go go go go go go .. switch to flowering.

    believe it or not ya'll.. and.. I hate to say it.. but... miracle gro's seed starting mix is an excellent product.. its so super light and airy and for some reason makes root growth explode
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    But carbonated water is charged with Co2,,not O2...I've done the ppr towel method for decades.....It works for me....Please do what works for you best!
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    CannaBruh Well-Known Member

    Good luck!
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Do what works for you! I have never and will never, use the soak! Now that breeders are telling you not to and they won't honor any guarantee if you do....It's an at your own risk thing! I swear it's like folks don't even read what you write!

    Great seeds to soak are beet seeds...THOSE are tough to germinate! Cannabis is NOT!

    The OP asked for methods to pop OLD seeds....
    It's NOT a good idea to do with ANY old seed! They have lost most of their vigor and NEED that o2 to grow beyond the cracking open! They need to help the seedling get past the cotyledon leaves.

    I have seeds ready for Root Riots in 24 or less hrs with the ppr towel method....It works for me - I'll do that...

    I get tired of giving out information that you can all use.....only to have a bunch of naysayers come back and scream that "IT DOES TOO" or what ever!

    Read my post again!
    After the "wrong" - You know, the part you didn't see!


    I told you what and why the problem! How to avoid the issue!

    I don't give a shit that it's your choice for popping seeds....I just tried to give you some info you surely didn't KNOW!
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    KrazyAnneBanks Well-Known Member

    i'm sorry for your loss, i hope the kid gets raped in prison ;)
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    Bareback Well-Known Member

    Nice to see your having a great day, lol.
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    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Yeah not a banner day......My UV bulb (Old fashioned) of choice is finally seeing the Federally mandated "phase out with new tech" implemented a few years back! I went to one of my old ops to see if I could find a case of them I had stashed there.......In all the fuss of last years raid....they're gone! Fucking, 1/2 a tank of gas trip across the county and back!:wall:

    They're much harder to find and the cost has gone up for those you can find! :wall::wall:
    Now I know how Marines chew concertina wire and piss napalm! :cuss::wall::cuss::wall::cuss:

    Moldy Well-Known Member

    I just use a screen to sift out the fines out of a bag of soil, usually just mid priced Home Depot stuff, then use the sifted soil for popping seeds. But I'll take a look at that MG stuff too, if can avoid sifting soil I will haha. But for popping them I'll put an old seed in water until it sinks then plant them in the sifted soil with a heat mat. If the seed is fresh then I'll just put directly in the heated soil and forget them for a week or so.
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    vostok Well-Known Member

    Interesting Reply:
    I'm experimenting with a much coarser mix this year,

    and already many of the germers have failed to live but have dried out ...quick

    so I too took to sieving some compost

    and adding a teaspoon to each 4 inch pot

    and insert the germer to that

    the deal being

    as the seedling grows

    the sieved soil will stick closer to the seed

    being damp ..will prevent the seed drying out

    so far works

    either the above or return to rapid rooters

    which I abhor

    good luck
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    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    That link still doesn't work for the journal and I wouldn't mind seeing how this pans out.

    I use the sandpaper in the pill jar and gentle shaking for a full minute or more then straight into screened ProMix in 9 hole seed starter pots that sit in a domed tray. Just put 9 beans in a little over 48 hours ago and three are up so it's sitting under fluoros nice and close now.

    Trying something a little different this time. I filled the bottom 3/4 of the cups with regular promix hp and promix potting soil that has some nutes in it then topped up the cups with the screened stuff so the seeds are as wet as soaking in water and warm at 75 - 80. Figure they might do a little better if they have some nice loose dirt to dig their roots into that has a bit of food.

    I started doing it this way after having trouble getting older beans to sprout in the water soak method that always worked great before.


    Good luck with yours fellow Grandpa!

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    GrandfatherRat Active Member

    What the devil? For whatever reason folk can't see my journal entries, all two of them...
    This is a link to the second journal entry, which is at the top of the blog list at the moment. Hopefully you all can access it. I can't see any setting to prevent views, must be screwing something else up here...

    Edit: a quick note to add that the first test batch of ten seeds is now about 40hrs into attempted germination, no signs of activity yet. Fingers and toes crossed!
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    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    Still no joy. I was checking for settings on my own journal and can't see any settings to set permissions. I am following you so it's really odd. @sunni might know what's up so if you see this Sunni can you fix it?

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    vostok Well-Known Member

    still no joy

    ensure you have that tick ...Unticked

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    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    To what tick do you refer? Even with my reading glasses on I see nothing to tick or untick on that screen shot.

    I ran into this problem going to look at another journal a few days ago but figured the guy had it set to followers only.

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    GrandfatherRat Active Member

    I went back into the two journal entries, and checked the view and edit settings at the bottom. I have both boxes ticked to allow comments, and the selection of 'any visitors' to view the entry. This wasn't working, so I've now changed the view options to Members only. Perhaps that will let people see what I am doing; hope so!

    vostok Well-Known Member

    You got it right, if still no go...see Sunni in admin will fix it

    good luck

    sunni Administrator Staff Member

    There's no real fix for these blogs
    I wish we would throw them out
    Some people have success some don't

    I believe both parties need to be following eachother
    And you have to set your permissions to members only

    The blog feature is not meant to be on xenforo it's a third party intergration that hasn't been updated in like 3 years

    So it's really broken
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    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    I saw the blog thing when I was going to start my grow journal but went into the forums to do it there.

    Can you move said blog into the forums or will @GrandfatherRat have to copy/paste it into the forums himself?

    Thanks for the explanation Sunni.


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