Beginner DWC/bubbleponics system- did i transplant right? I need advise.Please!

Knally said:

Hoping for a lady for you.

I've used a fogger off and on over the last 5 years, but only for giving heat and moisture to seedlings/clones that haven't formed enough roots to reach the res. It's worked pretty well for that purpose. Then after the roots hit the water, I transplant them to a dwc for veg and then into Hydrofarms for flowering.

I've never completed a grow with only the fogger though. The fogger heats up the res and increases your risk of over heating and root rot and disease. I've had that happen several times in the past if you use the fogger too long into veg or flower.

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Your right I also read that the fogger could get roots area a bit to warm and cause disease. That's when DWC kicks on w/ cool ph balanced nutte water every 5 min. this adds to Tupperware water dish that is set inside of DWC for the fogger. It constantly refills it. I also like to turn fogger off for a day or two and then on again? I'm a rookie here, so suggestions are very welcome as I am in the perfecting process. I am also about to change the rez for the first time....argh...... And I think I should switch to the nuttes I have for specific flowering stage....

I am in construction process of a 30-60 site EZ cloner. For transplantation. I need a vegg zone... My tent will prob be the flower zone!

Nice grow my friend. Our plants and grow rooms are very alike. Funny we both started our grow by burning plants! lol
Looking good now.
I've just up'd my EC to 1.25. (about 850ppm).

Soon we should both see females with a bit of luck.

Great setups guys im about to start building my setup which is going to be exactly like those..I am debating between 4 and 6 plants for mine which i believe is the same size just by eyeballing it. Is there a reason why you went with 4 instead of 6? Was it for growing room, or possibly entangled roots fighting eachother? -Young

Young Macdonald said:

Great setups guys im about to start building my setup which is going to be exactly like those..I am debating between 4 and 6 plants for mine which i believe is the same size just by eyeballing it. Is there a reason why you went with 4 instead of 6? Was it for growing room, or possibly entangled roots fighting eachother? -Young

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I actually started in AG200 with 7 seeds. 1 bagseed, that was a wk in front of everyone and showed first signs of balls. Hard to tell on lower nodes though. I transplanted to AERO/DWC system to flower and lost two of the smaller guys in the process (the strong survive). There roots needed more oxygenated water. I did notice though that with 4 plants in my 18 g rubbermaid, I ran out of room fast and had to spread them to the four corners. But My sprinkler isn't very powerful caused by cheaper water pump, so they were not getting the same spray. A few wks later and I was going to trim/LST/fimming to keep them as low as possible. But they get bushy quick and you will be on top of each other. It depends how you wanna grow them up? If you lollyPop then it would be cool, but If you top and get sideways growth, you could run into a branchy situation. 4 is my best guess!

Too bad.. another male. Hopefully all of the remaining are females so you can get a decent grow under your belt.

Looking good otherwise though.

A little advice, if you like, on dwc water changes... at least what works for me.

I change my veg dwc tubs (two 10 gallon) every two weeks and top them off with ph'd water in between as needed. Each water change I increase my nutrient strength based on the plants growth.

I also gently untangle entwined roots in the res by swishing the roots around in the water to free them up just in case you have females and males mixed in the same res.

I change my 4 flowering Waterfarms weekly and increase the nutrient strength each week also.

Definitely switch your nutrients to a flowering composition.

Ya hope the rest are girls. Any update?

Mine still not showing sex

ROC1977 said:

Ya hope the rest are girls. Any update?

Mine still not showing sex

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Yeah ur right. I'm at day 11 flower and I don't see pistils or white hairs yet. I do see something building kinda like the last Male I cut. I hit him early and made sure no roots were entangled. I'm hoping he didn't pollinate the others. I dont think it could of. I'll get some pics up in a few hrs. there still asleep for now.

peace broha

I wanted to chat again about LED lights. For I seem to be, so in to the new technology. Everybody is very skeptical, and nobody experiments. What gives? So I wanna share the little info that I know from My present Research on Led's and specifically the 90watt UFO.

To start with Led Lights use 1/5th the power of normal High intensity (HID) lighting. The UFO model-highlighted in Feb 08 High times cover. uses 90 watts while putting out just as many lumens as a 400w MH bulb. Obviously this adds to the incredible amount of money you'll be saving on your electric costs!

The Latest Led UFO also has three built in fans to cool the tiny bulbs, making standard growing ventilation and air exchanges more then enough to keep the room temps at optimal levels.
Alright about price the best ones online right now cost anywhere from $550 to $650. Still while that seems high, your energy consumption savings will come back sooner then you think. I've also seen them on E-bay right now as we speak going anywhere from $160.00-$300.00. That being on the cheaper end. And they are coming in from Canada. Oh Canada...ripping people off first? or smarter sellers?

So right now, LED's like the UFO have produced yields similar and better then there HID counter-parts in initial trials and have simultaneously saved growers money on electricity while adding better security and grow room atmosphere then do standard HPS and MH bulbs.

Initial Trials. HID Huts 90 Watt UFO vs 400w MH bulb. In the end the Led produced 12% more yield.
Trial B.- UFO vs 400w HPS. Only this time the LED side took one extra week to finish, some concern of over-stretching. In the End the LED side yielded 5% less then HPS side did. However, it was reported in trial B that there were remarkably different potencies, with the LED side producing more Resin. Final Calculations considering the extra wk it took LED side to cure, they found that in terms of grams yielded per kilowatt an hr (KwH) consumed, the HPS yield actually was one-fouth that of the LED side. An interesting side note here, the LED side needed considerably less watering then the plant on the HPS side. Is it possible that this is due to the lower surface temperatures? or the plant wasn't driven as hard as other and just drank less?

Anyway you slice it, this is a Hard one to figure out, given no ceiling yet, the skys the limit for this new technology. The LED Revolution is already on it's way. Will the UFO take off and change the world?

Yeah I've seen them on Ebay and few clips on Youtube.
The are expensive to buy though.
I guess only time will tell.

HPS growers will say no way is LED better. Myself I couldn't say, I'm no expert in growing or lights.

Spliffious said:

I wanted to chat again about LED lights. For I seem to be, so in to the new technology. Everybody is very skeptical, and nobody experiments. What gives?

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I'm currently trying it, even in light of all the negativity I've got. But the Aerogarden has been given doubts too, so has hydro (way in the past). Someone had to say fuck the horse and buggy and fire up an engine right? Its my first grow, the aero was a gift, and I had some cash to blow on the LED. And yeah, less electricity, no heat worries. NASA uses em' http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/light_farming_010926.html and no, 'they don't grow ganga with em man' just read the column, it's interesting at least. It's new shit, so don't be alarmed farmer McDonald.

well no sure signs yet of females. I'm thinking any damn day now. the little sprouts or budding sites are swellng and hopefully gonna pop me out some white hairs, and not spread and turn into donkey balls.... Well the bad news... im having computer issues... Hardware failure or keyboard malfunction. the cursors acts like your holding down the space bar. it just beeps. damn inspiron 6000 about 3 years old. need a new laptop bad... maybe i can get the local computer guru to fix it up.....? but he doesnt need to see the pics on there. he's gotta be a nosey fucker. Anyways back to lst'in the babies. Movin the fish hooks and weights to different branches...

alright im losing water pressure that goes to the sprinkler heads, Mainly because of my chinky ass set-up. How do you hook up the spray valve on top of submersible water pump/ that goes straight into 1/2" pvc tubing? I was using a piece of 1/2" tubing and crimed the side connected to the water pump and slid the 10" long clear plastic flexi tubing into the pvc tube and it sort of worked well for a bit. Today, I noticed the babies werent getting the water they so desperately needed.

.....didn't your pump come with different adapters for what you are saying??bring your pieces to your local hardware and find some pvc parts to work, probably have to glue them up the way you want.....there's also great pvc fittings in the electrical section....... if your talking about the soft pvc tubing they should have all of the regular barb fittings, etc., in the irrigation section..... Hoping you have a Home Depot/Lowes or similar.......
Are you using sprinkler heads or sprayers? Which pump do you have??<---sorry if you said earier in thread; I dont remember.....

growinman

When I was setting up my ebb and flow system. I had problems with fittings. But then I found loads of old heating pluming, and gas pluming values and plugs. Search about your house for bits and pieces. Anything else I coludn't find at home, my local DIY store had loads of fittings in the garden section. Hose adapters and what not.

ROC1977 said:

When I was setting up my ebb and flow system. I had problems with fittings. But then I found loads of old heating pluming, and gas pluming values and plugs. Search about your house for bits and pieces. Anything else I coludn't find at home, my local DIY store had loads of fittings in the garden section. Hose adapters and what not.

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cool thanks for advice fellas. My pump is the cheap $30.00 Eco 396 and I have the fittings. I also have gromets and such- im just an idiot. And Yes I have a Lowes/HDepot along with Petco and Local Hydro Store.

Yes...Finally. I was getting so impatient. I think she sexed for me and am 99% positive those are white hairs of the Wwidow seeds I planted from a homies ashTray. lol! Im Jacked..... party time.

Keep Smokkin...Keep on Tokin... Im the Weed Man....! Yeah Yea Yea... Bone Thugs!

You definitely have a lady in there. Congratulations!

Congrats there Spliffious. Let the flowering begin!!

Spliffious said:

cool thanks for advice fellas. My pump is the cheap $30.00 Eco 396 and I have the fittings. I also have gromets and such- im just an idiot. And Yes I have a Lowes/HDepot along with Petco and Local Hydro Store.

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Well, IMO, those are the best all around pumps for what we use them for; and for $30, you cant beat them---not that Iam aware of anyway.... I use them for my flood table res(3 different set-ups, 3 pumps) and for my aero/nft stuff too. Mag pumps are expensive, create more heat and noise----and they dont really last much longer than the eco 396 + if you get some clay chunks in there, or similar; your screwed........

So you have a HD/Lowes?? Hahayour local hydro shop is on 11th? Do you watch CL??<----lots of good deals if you keep an eye on it. Oh, that line of nutes is fine. Do you have a recycle timer?
Have a great night!!

growinman

Well I'm at it again. Ive now added the 90 w ufo with the 400w hps. This is uncharted area I'm Sure. The surface temp is 70-75*. perfect. The fan is big and hits the lamp/surface area nicely. My Root area rez temps are between 68-72*. water temp in bottom rez is 65-72*. depending on ventilation. I Guess I'm doing this the right time of year, because of the cool temps throughout day and cooler at night, but still freezing outside w/ frosty mornings. My night temp is anywhere from 60-70* in the tent/ sealed and tucked to shield light. I think I'm golden on climate control with my chinky set-up. But I think I will definately be having a problem with smell soon? Therefore, I think, I might have to seal the tent at sometime, and buy a 6" centrifugal fan and carbon filter for an exaust, pumping clean smellin air out of hose. I also need to design a setup to make my oldskool big ass reflector a air cooled system. Run tubes from both sides, with a can fan or 4" 176 cfm fan pulling the air across bulb. But god doangit is all that expensive. and I really don't wanna go there yet.

Those are sure looking nice and healthy, Spliff!! Do you think you'll be able to keep those temps this summer?? There's a lot of stuff in the diy section on carbon filters. Keep you eye on CL and get a good 240cfm+ fan for that tent then build a filter for it......or yeah, $250 will get you a fair deal on one RTR.