Big Buddah Blue Chesse First Hydro Grow in Mothership

Once again, you DID say how big your res was. I should actually read your posts before saying anything lol.

TLR version: lightproof, clean it up with just water, and see if it comes back. If it does, go get some 35 percent, and throw 60ml of that with some fresh water in there, along with the dunk i told you about. Run that solution while your dunking for about 2 hours, just throw the override on 3-4 times. Then dump that solution out with a fresh batch of nutes and another 60ml of hydrox. make sure when you're adding hydrogen peroxide, you measure it, add it to 6 gallons of water outside of your tank, let it sit for 20-30 minutes, then add your nutes, pH it, and pour it in your mothership. The reason for this is to allow the oxygen molecule to release into your solution before adding it to the mothership, to avoid that corrosive activity on your roots. Of course, you're dunking anyways, but hey, in the future, thats how it should be done

Brutal. Plenty of sound advice just above me. This is why I keep half mine in soil :/ I love hydro but there is always something. Goodluck man keep us posted

Ok the gunk was not on the airstones or floating in the res the hydrogen peroxide did a good job on the root rot and i might of figured out why this gunk came one of my drippers stayed on all the time even with the override switch off. My guess is it has been on for about 24 hours. Im thinking that could of caused the plants roots to drown or get some of that fungus or algea and it spread it to my other plants i had to unplug the airpump becasue i could not figure out how to get the dripper to stop. I must of fed something up when i took the whole res out and cleaned it a couple days ago. I light proffed everything. I already see some new roots coming through and i got my res temps down to about 69 degress with the lights on. I am going to go get some h202 today and add dilute it and ph the water and add some water tonight and see how it goes. My plants dont look like they have suffered other then some slow growth mabye. Well the plant that had the dripper on for a day has definetly slowed in growth but i dont think it drowned completly and there are new roots coming out the side. I put some aluminum foil over everything i saw that had light coming through it which was 3 spots. Where the airpump comes up to connect to the drippers and both places where there is a clamp going over the big tube that feeds the drippers. Hopefully the res temps down and me covering up the light will prevent it from coming back and hopefully when i add some h202 tonight with plain ph'd water the problem will go away and stay away. I really cant afford to start the grow over. I dont have alot invested in this one grow but i really need it to have a decent outcome. Anyway thank you so much for the help and i will keep you updated on what happens. My lights come on at 11 tonight (did this so i can try to keep temps down) so tonight i will add the solution and when i wake up in the morning i will check the res to see how the plants took to the water and h202 mix.

lets see those roots

That seems very strange to me how one dripper would be going the entire time and not the others. If your water pump is on, it should be pumping to all 4. If it's off, it isn't. This is very strange. I wish I was more familiar with the hardware on the mothership. Water pumps aren't terribly expensive but I don't think that's your probem. If a dripper was going on 24/7, it would almost certainly drown your plant. Are you 100% positive this is what's going on? You would have noticed one of the plants drooping significantly over the others.

Got any new pics to see how they are doing ?

Ok after light proffing my box and keeping the res temps down the ladies are starting to grow again. The roots still have white gunk all over them but there are alot of new roots coming threw and hitting the res and looking 100% healthy. Should i just cut all the deads roots out the botom of the pot and get all that gunk off casue there are new roots coming and hitting the res and they look great. This will be my 3rd set of new roots and i dont want them getting anything. I know cutting roots will slow things down but there is so much white shit all over them and there probly dead. Is this a bad idea to just cut them off and get all that shit out my res by cutting them? I also just trimmed my plants up cut the botom 3rd of leaves off them so i can get some better airflow and get those little node sites gone so we can focus on the bigger ones. On sunday it will be 2 weeks of flowering and they have only grown about 5-6 inches since i started flowering but thats not bad in my opinion considering how much has gone on with them. They still look 100% healthy and never showed any sign they had all this root problem except for some slow growth. I checked out the dripper situation also and only one of the drippers turns on and thats the one that was constantly going. I got it to stop going non stop but i just unplugged my airpump in general becasue There is no point in just one of the plants gettnig watered i will just water them every now and then from the top but i dont even know if that is necessary. Anyway any advice on cutting the roots would be grealty appreciated becasue i would like to do it asap if i am going to do it before it gets to late into flower. I will update the pics in a few mintues the lights are about to go off so i will snap a couple

Ok i thought i was further along into flowering then i am today is day 11 of flowering and they have grown 5-6 inches so thats really not that bad but i feel like they should have grown alot more then they have if they were not having root problems. I really liked the low stress triaing and the way it was looking and i still like it but my cannopy on two of the plants is not as even as it used to be lol. On One plant the cannopy is even and looks great on the other two there are alot of nodes showing and are a good size but there is 2 main ones on each plant instead of 5-7 like on the one i did correctly lol. Oh well 2 main colas is better then 1! Hopefully some of the smaller nodes will catch up after the trimming i just did. Anyway enough of the talking here are the ladies after 10 days of flowering and trimmed up (i will not be doing anymore trimming by the way i know people hate seeing healthy leaves cut off but i do it one time early in flower and just cut off the botom shit so the plants can focus on the bigger buds and not the popcorn)

Oh ya i plan on cutting the roots tonight at like 11 when the lights come on if im going to cut them so thats the main thing is if i should cut the roots or not. Any advice would be great as i have no idea on if cutting the roots is a good idea or not. All i know is it would be good to get the gunk out which is a positive note of cutting the roots but it would also slow my plants down by cutting them. Other then that im lost on what to do. Thanks in advance for any advice

If the roots are covered in that white shit, they aren't uptaking water or nutrients, they are just floating there, suffocated. I would either clean them off gently, or remove them.

llop1103 said:

Ok i thought i was further along into flowering then i am today is day 11 of flowering and they have grown 5-6 inches so thats really not that bad but i feel like they should have grown alot more then they have if they were not having root problems. I really liked the low stress triaing and the way it was looking and i still like it but my cannopy on two of the plants is not as even as it used to be lol. On One plant the cannopy is even and looks great on the other two there are alot of nodes showing and are a good size but there is 2 main ones on each plant instead of 5-7 like on the one i did correctly lol. Oh well 2 main colas is better then 1! Hopefully some of the smaller nodes will catch up after the trimming i just did. Anyway enough of the talking here are the ladies after 10 days of flowering and trimmed up (i will not be doing anymore trimming by the way i know people hate seeing healthy leaves cut off but i do it one time early in flower and just cut off the botom shit so the plants can focus on the bigger buds and not the popcorn)

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Remember that when plants goes into flower, they have to "switch" into flower mode from veg, between these shifts the plant stops growing altogether and some take longer than others in this process, so 5-6 inches of growth is not indicative of the overall health of your plant.

I dont know those plants look pretty good to me

Thanks tatan i really appreciate the encouragement and nice words. I have been keeping the res temps down by adding water bottles that i put in the freezer into the res. Well they are gatorade bottles. I put one in right before lights go out and one in right when lights come on and my plants are loving it. Res temps are ranging from 62-68 at all times and some of the white gunk is starting to come off the older roots now. I think its becasue no light is getting in and the temps are to low for it to live. New root growth is coming along very nicely as well!! Overall im satisfied with the way my ladies are preforming right now!!!

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If the roots are covered in that white shit, they aren't uptaking water or nutrients, they are just floating there, suffocated. I would either clean them off gently, or remove them.

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Thanks for the info will be seeing if the rest of the gunk comes off by sunday if its not all off i will try rinsing it off if this does not work i will cut. Thanks for the help i think the old roots might pull through and be fine lets keep our fingers crossed!!

Ok guys a few updates for you. Res temps have been staying between 61-68.7 degress at all times. I will be switching the nutes tonight at 11:30 when the lights come on. I filled up 5 gallons of water and put a little bit of hydrogen peroxide (not alot at all) and Sensi Bloom A&B in the water. I did this last night so tonight when i go to change the res the water will have been sitting out for 24 hours. I was told to put the hydrogen peroxide in and let it stand for 20-30 min then put the nutes in but i forgot to do that i actually added the nutes and then added the hydrogen peroxide. Does this really matter? Or is the main factor just letting the hydrogen peroxide sit in the water for 20-30 min before you put it in the res? Anyway i measured the plants last night and here are the hieghts of them. By the way i actually ended up keeping 4 plants in the mothership so every space is occupied. One of the plants didnt really start growing till late so i didnt tie it down and it is just one main stalk. It is very stretched and will be just one cola. However that one is my tallest one lol when for the first 3/4 of the grow it was the smallest and didnt grow at all. Anyway the measurments. The back right one is 13 inches the front right one is 14 1/2 inches these are my two best looking ones. Then on the left side in the front left it is 12 1/2 inches and the back left one which is not tied down or bushed out is 17 inches. All the plants are looking really healthy. The root situation is under control as of right now. All the white gunk is off the roots now and floating or sitting in the bottom of the res. All the gunk came off in the last 2 days so it hasnt just been sitting in there all week lol. Anyway there are tons of new roots in the res from all directions now that look super healthy and are growing like crazy. They are by far the biggest and most healthy looking roots i have had this whole grow. i measured the plants last night when the lights came on as i want to start keeping track of there size and how much they grow so i will know the best time to start flower so i can use as much space as possible for my next grow. I am not thinking my plants are going to take up all the space i am able to use since they are still so short. I think that since i tied them down alot of the other node sites are getting equal light as the main cola so they are all growing at a good equal speed but if i didnt tie them down and that main cola was getting all that light it would be alot taller. My main colas are however growing taller then most of my other brnaches but the other branches are trying there hardest to keep up and i hope they do becasue i want multiple colas so i can get as much weight off these things as possible. My lights will be coming on in like 3 hours so i will update with some pics of all 4 of the plants and there roots. I should be able to take some decent pics since they will be out of the box for a little bit so i can take the whole res out and rinse it out good in the bathtub to get all that gunk out. Im hoping by having the res temps down and no more light leaks and only adding Sensi bloom A&B and not all the other additives the roots will like this and stay healthy. I also added just a little over half strenght of what was suggested for Sensi Bloom A&B since the roots just got healthy again and i want to make sure they stay healthy. Next week i will add 3/4 or full strenght and then the week after that i will add full strenght and some additives if they are healthy and doing well. Pics will come soon any advice or comments is appreciated. Let me know if the hydrogen peroxide and nutes and the same time into my water is ok or if i have to redo it so i dont f up my plants

Oh ya there are pistils coming out from all over all 4 plants i saw the first sign of pistils like 5 days into flowering which i feel like is really early. Now there are pistils coming out of every budsite. Im hoping the plants grow atleast around 10 more inches before they stop growing and start focusing on the buds. Does anyone know around what week of flowering the plants stop growing and start focusing on the buds? Becasue i have 30 inches of vertical space and my plants are like 14 inches right now and they just finished week 2 of flower. Does anyone have a guesstimate on how tall they might get as im really hoping i dont end up with 18-20 inch plants and have wasted 10 inches of grow room that i had

You won't fill the box I don't think. How long we veg and how soon we co2 is so unbelievably strain dependant in these boxes. My plants are 14-15 inches right now in my producer, and I'm 3 days into week 3 of flower, and they might get antoher inch or two. Next run I'll be vegging longer and turning the co2 on first week of flower. You will be wasting space in there, and you'll be lucky to get 20 inch plants. This is the way she goes sometimes!!

Plants typically stop growing vertically after the third week of flower, so whatever you have at that point, expect to keep it.

Damn that really sucks i was trying to get the highest potential yeild possible. I am about to post some pics of them right now but since you have grown in the box before can you still get a good yeild from your plants being 16-17 inches tall?? I tied them down at the beggining and looked liked i would multiple (like 4-5) colas on each plant but now the main stalk has outgrown all the other side branches and its looking like i will only be getting one cola off each plant and then just some other really good side buds. I was told i should get a minimum of .5 grams per watt of light from smokedup who also uses a bcnl box but that would be 7.1 ounces and i have grown before so i know around how much a plant can yeild normally and i see no way possible of me getting 7.1 ounces off these plants. Mabye he meant with filling the box and all the space completly i could get 7 ounces. Do you have any idea what to expect? What might i be able to yeild? I vegged for about 2-3 weeks after the plants had rooted. I started to flower when they were about 8 inches tall but i tied them down so in reality they would have been around 11-12 inches i am assuming but since i tied them down they were about 8 inches. My smallest is 14 inches and my largest is 16 inches. So mine are about the same size as yours and im 3 days into my thrid week of flower. What do you think you will pull off your plants? I have 3 good bushed out ones and one tall skinny one i am really hoping i will get atleast 1 ounce per plant or 4 ounces total from them all. It would be really nice to get around 6 do you think this is possible or is getting 4 ounces even expecting to much with them being so short?

Ok guys so were on day 16 flower Sorry it took me longer to post these pics then i thought but the site was down and i just forgot to post pics. Overall the plants are looking great and the roots are better then ever. Only bad thing is i am dissapointed with the size as i dont think they will be growing that much bigger and my yeild will not be as high as i had wished. If anyone can give me some estimates on what they think i might yeild that would be greatly appreciated. I know you cant say exactly but a ball park estimate will do just fine.
Pic1=close up of roots....Pic2=roots for left 2 plants....Pic3=right side roots....Pic4=Front right plant(16")....Pic5=Back right plant(14.1/2")....Pic6=Front left plant(14")....Pic7=Back left plant (one that i didnt think would ever root or grow but is now the tallest(19")....Pic8=Group shot to see main cola lenght with lights just on....Pic19=Group shot from higher up....Pic10=Another group shot

These are my two plants on the right side(my Best two)

Feel free to make any comments on if im doing anything wrong, if i can be doing anything better, if im doing anything right lol, or just ANY comments you may have on my grow. Dont be shy!!