Black ash PLEASE HELP

Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Kassiopeija said:
that's a contradiction. a chlorophyll-molecule has 1 Mg-atom at its center with 4 N-atoms surrounding it.
I could believe the N gases out after 'the cure', but Mg is too heavy to transition to a gassy aggregation state... it would have to be heated to 1150°C before it does that.
So it stays... as does the carbon...

But, thing is, I want actually to rule out chlorophyll... just pure buds, no leaves at all, not even sugar leaves...
what elements are all present?

Bugbee wrote in one recent study cannabis buds are "phosphor-accumulators". They just store phosphor in the tissue it doesnt serve any biological function there.
Also, excessive calcium is known to stone-out in tissue, there's been posts/clear images on ICMag on that.... from some BetaTestTeam (IIRC)
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Let me guess
The Franklin klan ?
 
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Nice-guy-eddy

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Herb & Suds said:
Look a fan and a dehumidifier means your drying way quicker than you are letting on
I dry with a dehumidifier across the room and still have to make sure it doesn’t dry to quickly let alone an extra fan in the room
Quick dry can’t be fixed
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Stems are still bending after 14 days sometimes so I dont think I'm drying too quickly
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Billy the Mountain

Billy the Mountain

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Astral22 said:
Right, i don't have a clue.. Says the guy who never tried both to tell the difference from experience, and only reads numbers without testing yourself..
And says the guy who thinks mold or mildew causes black ash! And after stated it was perfectly dried and cured, and has no visible mold.. :clap:
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I said the "awful taste" you described may be due to mold

I'll rely on a study for information long before your anecdotal gibberish about being able to discern flushed from unflushed weed or synthetic vs. organic.

You claim to you can, science says otherwise.

How can your "perfectly dried and cured" bud crumble to dust and taste foul, by your own admission?

Seems like you got really things figured out
 
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Astral22

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Billy the Mountain said:
I said the "awful taste" you described may be due to mold

I'll rely on a study for information long before your anecdotal gibberish about being able to discern flushed from unflushed weed or synthetic vs. organic.

You claim to you can, science says otherwise.

How can your "perfectly dried and cured" bud crumble to dust and taste foul, by your own admission?

Seems like you got really things figured out
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Awful taste doesn't come just from mold but ok, and the taste was a secondary problem for him as i understood, the primary problem is the black ash, and mold/mildew doesn't cause black ash, at least not chunky charcoal-like black ash like he described.

You rely on ''science'' but thousands of experienced smokers said otherwise for many years, not just for cannabis but also food.
And when you experience it yourself that's when i'll take your argument into account, throwing few random articles mean nothing.

I'm lazy to go back and read but if i remember correctly the ''crumbling bud'' was the one he left in the tent for a long time, but even if all of his buds are dry and crumbling, that excludes the water content and not being dried properly. Overly dried bud doesn't create a chunky charcoal black ash either.

With all things considered and judging by his story, the hydro and nutrients made his buds bad.

But i guess it's easier to sell when you tell people it's fine, and i see some people never tried anything else besides hydro overpacked with nutes, i guess many here started smoking when it became legal some years ago.

I can't wait until the OP grows in soil as he said, i want to hear about the difference as well. If he flushes in soil and still gets black ash, i will admit i'm wrong, i promise!
 
Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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PadawanWarrior said:
I was thinking he was saying leaves are N reserves for the buds. But I could be wrong. I speak some stoner too, :weed:
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it's true, that's why I demanded testing without leaves.
I've seen machine-trimed buds that were 100% just the achenes, 0 leaf.
these (should) contain almost 0 chlorophyll. that would rule out a false cure as the culprit

and IIRC there was an AN study years ago that featured different levels depending on feed strength

it could be genetic, but sooo many homegrowers, who grow for their personal smoke, won't try to hit "the upper region of EC" (before toxicity) but rather aim for the lower one (before deficiency)
 
amneziaHaze

amneziaHaze

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i noticed a few times when i smoke my bong if i take strong hits more air comes in it burns at higher temperature and becomes white. if i take it easy it stays black. allsoo if there is some trim leafs it helps burn stronger making it white
 
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