Bush = Nazi ????

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
WOW this kind of shit is obsurd.... c'mon GEORGE... sack it up young lad...
do the right thing...

The turks are the ones that need this resolution.. the sooner they accept to the "atrocities", the sooner they can start the healing process...


White House warns against Armenia resolution
Bush administration urges Congress to reject legislation on 'genocide'
Updated: 40 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - President Bush strongly urged Congress on Wednesday to reject
legislation that would declare the World War I-era killings of hundreds of
thousands of Armenians a genocide, saying it would do "great harm" to
relations with Turkey, a key ally in the Iraq war.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates
issued a joint appeal at the White House just hours before the House Foreign
Affairs Committee was to vote on the measure opposed by Bush - and which
Turkey insists could severely damage U.S. relations with a NATO ally that
has been a major portal for U.S. military operations in the region.
"The passage of this resolution at this time would be very problematic for
everything we are trying to do in the Middle East," Rice said.

'Put at risk'
Gates said that 70 percent of U.S. air cargo headed for Iraq goes through
Turkey, as does about a third of the fuel used by the U.S. military in Iraq.
"Access to air fields and to the roads and so on in Turkey would very much
be put at risk if this resolution passes and Turkey reacts as strongly as we
believe they will," Gates said. He also said that 95 percent of the newly
purchased Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles are flying through Turkey
to get to Iraq.
Turkey made a final direct appeal to U.S. lawmakers to reject the
resolution. The U.S. vote comes as Turkey's government was seeking
parliamentary approval for a cross-border military operation to chase
separatist Kurdish rebels who operate from bases in northern Iraq. The move,
opposed by the United States, could open a new war front in the most stable
part of Iraq.
"I have been trying to warn the (U.S.) lawmakers not to make a historic
mistake," said Egemen Bagis, a close foreign policy adviser to Turkish Prime
Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
A measure of the potential problem came in a warning the U.S. Embassy in
Ankara issued Tuesday to U.S. citizens in Turkey of "demonstrations and
other manifestations of anti-Americanism throughout Turkey" if the bill
passes the committee and gets to the House floor for a vote, the embassy
statement said.
Anti-U.S. protests in Turkey
On Wednesday, hundreds of Turks marched to U.S. missions in Turkey to
protest the bill. In Ankara, members of the left-wing Workers' Party chanted
anti-American slogans in front of the embassy, the state-run Anatolia news
agency reported. A group of about 200 people staged a similar protest in
front of the U.S. Consulate in Istanbul, private NTV television said.
Anatolia quoted a party official as saying that the "genocide claim was an
international, imperialist and a historical lie."
The basic dispute involves the killing of up to 1.5 million Armenians by
Ottoman Turks around the time of World War I, an event widely viewed by
genocide scholars as the first genocide of the 20th century. Turkey denies
that the deaths constituted genocide, says the toll has been inflated, and
insists that those killed were victims of civil war and unrest.
Interest groups rally supporters
Armenian-American interest groups also have been rallying supporters in the
large diaspora community to pressure lawmakers to make sure that a
successful committee vote leads to consideration by the full House.
The bill seemed to have enough support on the committee for passage, but the
majority was slight and some backers said they feared that Turkish pressure
would narrow it. Most Republicans, who are a minority on the committee, were
expected to vote against the resolution.
On Tuesday, Bryan Ardouny, executive director of the Armenian Assembly of
America, sought to shore up support in letters to the committee's chairman,
Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., and its ranking Republican member, Florida Rep.
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen.
"We have a unique opportunity in this Congress, while there are still
survivors of the Armenian genocide living among us, to irrevocably and
unequivocally reaffirm this fact of history," he said.
The head of the Armenian Apostolic Church, Catholicos Karekin II, was to
give the opening invocation to the House's session ahead of the vote
Wednesday.
Erdogan adviser Bagis said the resolution would make it hard for his
government to continue close cooperation with the United States and resist
calls from the public to go after the Kurdish rebels after deadly attacks on
soldiers in recent weeks. Turkey previously has said it would prefer that
the United States and its Iraqi Kurd allies in northern Iraq crack down on
the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK.
The United States reiterated on Tuesday its warnings against an incursion.
 

medicineman

New Member
I say, call a snake a snake. If it was in fact a genocide, then call it one and let the cookies fall. I believe Turkey gets a few billion in foriegn aid, so it would be cutting off it's nose to spite its face. Or otherwise put, fuck Turkey, I saw that movie about the boy caught with Hash-hish (Midnight Express), fuck Turkey!
 

ozstone

Well-Known Member
Exactly MED, as soon as anyone disputes the Jewish Holocaust (Iran), its war.
It is none surprising to see this Hypocrisy. All parts of the game that the elite play, Armenia where the fuck is Armenia?, Israel, we all know where that is, it is part of the 51st State (Saudi-Israelia)
 

EpiDemiK

Active Member
I saw something on the news earlier about this, and the ambassador said in defense that the Turk's lost tons of people in the war too. Imagine if Germany said the holocaust was ok because they lost 3 mil in the war, people wouldn't be too happy :evil:
 

silk

Well-Known Member
tsk tsk Garden Knowm
You have invoked Godwin's law...

let's say Bush is a Nazi, then let's explain why he supports Israel.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
 

closet.cult

New Member
damn. this is like a perfect storm of history, death, ancient racist violence and modern weapons in that region. i truly hope this finally blows up in bush's face, literally.

he has no buisness fucking around with these nations. greedy, fucking, illiterate, communistic bastard.
 

closet.cult

New Member
tsk tsk Garden Knowm
You have invoked Godwin's law...

let's say Bush is a Nazi, then let's explain why he supports Israel.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
that is just a longtime front, for the christian right wingers here in the states. god's old chosen people. many presidents before him have had to play that christian card too.
 

medicineman

New Member
that is just a longtime front, for the christian right wingers here in the states. god's old chosen people. many presidents before him have had to play that christian card too.
Say closet, How is it we can agree on so many things, yet are at an impasse over national health care, You just said how the insurance companies fucked over you for stepping on a nail, wouldn't you be willing to try a new solution? Every civilized nation in the 1st world has national health care but us. Ever wonder why?
 

JohnnyPotSeed1969

Well-Known Member
you guys are idiots. the democrats are using this as a way to disrupt the war. think about it, if the resolution passes and turkey gets pissed, our war plans are fucked. we rely on them for a lot of strategic help. personally, i think it's fucking brilliant!!!
 

medicineman

New Member
you guys are idiots. the democrats are using this as a way to disrupt the war. think about it, if the resolution passes and turkey gets pissed, our war plans are fucked. we rely on them for a lot of strategic help. personally, i think it's fucking brilliant!!!
Me too, fucking brilliant. They've finaly come up with a plan, stop the flow of war materials through Turkey, kinda lame but helpful. Be much better to just stop the funding.
 

7xstall

Well-Known Member
Say closet, How is it we can agree on so many things, yet are at an impasse over national health care, You just said how the insurance companies fucked over you for stepping on a nail, wouldn't you be willing to try a new solution? Every civilized nation in the 1st world has national health care but us. Ever wonder why?

lol, guess you missed the story in the news about CA sending moms down here to have babies because their socialized system is having a meltdown.






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Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter -- with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It’s a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilisation will say about me. I have issued the command -- and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad -- that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness -- for the present only in the East -- with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks to-day of the annihilation of the Armenians?


- HITLER , November 23, 1945

I don't think BUSH is a NAZI... i don't even know what a NAZI is...
 

blonddie07

Well-Known Member
Me too, fucking brilliant. They've finaly come up with a plan, stop the flow of war materials through Turkey, kinda lame but helpful. Be much better to just stop the funding.

Brilliant? Genocide and injustice is brilliant? I wonder if somthing like this happend to you. and your familiy.. and you would want the satisfaction of justice. I wonder how brilliant you would think it is if a country is taking advantage of the this fact and denying it to gain military advantage for a war that is draining and WRONG.

Basically what your saying is.. if the day comes where we all deny the jewish holocaust to gain a good relationship and military advantage with germany(because of future wars or some sort of new event) it would be a great idea.

I didnt think so.

Stupid fucks.
 

medicineman

New Member
Brilliant? Genocide and injustice is brilliant? I wonder if somthing like this happend to you. and your familiy.. and you would want the satisfaction of justice. I wonder how brilliant you would think it is if a country is taking advantage of the this fact and denying it to gain military advantage for a war that is draining and WRONG.

Basically what your saying is.. if the day comes where we all deny the jewish holocaust to gain a good relationship and military advantage with germany(because of future wars or some sort of new event) it would be a great idea.

I didnt think so.

Stupid fucks.
Are you fucking nuts? I am against all fucking wars. In my view, revenge is just the perpetuation of wars. Yeah I'd be pissed if someone killed a family member, might even want to retaliate, but the above rant has nothing to do with my post. I was saying that by stopping the war supplies from going into Iraq, it might stop the war. No bombs, ammo or food and they'd have to leave. Get a grip, I don't care if you are Jewish or Polynesian, war is fucked up stuff.
 

medicineman

New Member
so you think just from one route of supples the war will end? LOL.

I have nothing else to say.
It might slow it down. We both know it's not going to end untill the Nazi Bush is out of office. Hey you want to hear some blonde jokes? There were these two blondes walked into a Bar..................................................
 
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