Can a photoperiod plant show signs of auto flower?

Nubiewithboobies

Nubiewithboobies

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Alter Jean said:
First off -

You've got balls for the username. I like you.

Second off -

Autos are harder to grow DANK IMO. It's like a game of chess.
If you know how to run photos 'well' then test your timing and feeds with an auto.

Photo plants are like drawing with a pencil. You can use the eraser on your fuck offs.
Auto plants are like drawing with a pen. You gotta be pretty good at it.

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Ha, actually, I got boobs, but I'll take balls....just doesn't resonate the same...

It's my first time. Only experience I have is inhaling for 30 years. I needed a hobby. I got way more than I bargained for.. now I have an obsession to grow. More. Better.
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

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Nubiewithboobies said:
I'm in NY. I have 2 autos going. Started them

I'm in NY. I wish there were "growers clubs" or classes. I have so many hours invested in research and I still would like a person to almost apprentice with...free labor...

I have those 2 autos outdoors since may 22. Here's a pic...I'm just not getting those good blooms and I've been providing nutes using FF soil and a trio of nutes to use at different stages. Foliar nutes didn't do much for veg, but I'm now using big blooms. I have about 20 small flora and preflowers. How do I boost the bloom? My begining cola is pretty small. Here's a pic of their size.. and me enjoying the aroma of the bigger lady.
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Those buds are still young and will be growing quite a bit still, don't worry and be patient. Everything will be just fine.
There probably is a group there by now. If not, start one. It could be cool.
I would recommend not using the tiger bloom and instead using just the big bloom with a little silica. It's easy to burn and autos, especially with the tiger bloom.
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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Nubiewithboobies said:
Yea

Yeah? Thanks. I want to invest in indoor but I'm scared that I'm never going get good. I'm very technical and Ive had a green thumb and understand some botanical insight
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You have much more control over your environment indoors if you have the equipment, although it's more expensive.

You're going to get a result equivalent to the effort you put into your grows. Experience will definitely help but for the best results you'll have to do a lot of reading also.
 
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Apalchen

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Okay so I didn’t read the whole thread, but I did have two plants I got as freebies from sin city start flowering under 16 hours of light. It was romulan x sin mint cookies. It had been a really hot week and was close to flowering so I dropped the daylight hours down to 16 hours so the lights wouldn’t have to compete with heat outside. After I noticed those couple plants doing that I went back to 18 hours but they just kept shooting pistils and continued to flower.

The clones off this plant did not flower in the veg room but I have almost constant light in there as I have all my lights kicking on and off at different times In summer so my room doesn’t get too hot.
 
Alter Jean

Alter Jean

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Apalchen said:
Okay so I didn’t read the whole thread, but I did have two plants I got as freebies from sin city start flowering under 16 hours of light. It was romulan x sin mint cookies. It had been a really hot week and was close to flowering so I dropped the daylight hours down to 16 hours so the lights wouldn’t have to compete with heat outside. After I noticed those couple plants doing that I went back to 18 hours but they just kept shooting pistils and continued to flower.

The clones off this plant did not flower in the veg room but I have almost constant light in there as I have all my lights kicking on and off at different times In summer so my room doesn’t get too hot.
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I am not sure what you mean by your post. It is confusing either that or I am too stoned
 
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Apalchen

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Alter Jean said:
I am not sure what you mean by your post. It is confusing either that or I am too stoned
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The original question was have you have ever had photoperiod plants show signs of being an auto? Well I had two that started flowering under 16 hours of light which to me would be a trait of being an auto flower considering the room had 45 other plants from seed and none of those started flowering. Photoperiod plants shouldn’t flower til they are on 12/12 schedule.

The reason I explained about the clones from the same plants not flowering is that if it was a full on auto those clones would have flowered as well no matter the light schedule, but they did not.
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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Apalchen said:
The original question was have you have ever had photoperiod plants show signs of being an auto? Well I had two that started flowering under 16 hours of light which to me would be a trait of being an auto flower considering the room had 45 other plants from seed and none of those started flowering. Photoperiod plants shouldn’t flower til they are on 12/12 schedule.

The reason I explained about the clones from the same plants not flowering is that if it was a full on auto those clones would have flowered as well no matter the light schedule, but they did not.
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The two you had wouldn't continue to flower once you moved them back to 18/6 or higher. If they did then so would the clones.

Edit: Besides autos don't flower when you change the light, they flower based on genetics. Photoperiods can start to flower on more light than 12/12. Each plant is different, it's not like they need exactly 12 hours of darkness to flower.
 
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Alter Jean

Alter Jean

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Apalchen said:
The original question was have you have ever had photoperiod plants show signs of being an auto? Well I had two that started flowering under 16 hours of light which to me would be a trait of being an auto flower considering the room had 45 other plants from seed and none of those started flowering. Photoperiod plants shouldn’t flower til they are on 12/12 schedule.

The reason I explained about the clones from the same plants not flowering is that if it was a full on auto those clones would have flowered as well no matter the light schedule, but they did not.
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If there was a recessive auto gene in the strain, any stress can trigger it to flower.
If it went root bound real bad it would flower.

I have a friend who lost a MTF because of the auto recessive in a similar way.
I too have lost a nice plant I tried to mother. After winter I think the temps triggered her to release the recessive.

Many strains are being crossed with auto flowers these days because so many people using STS. This results in unknown auto recessive genes floating around. Some do it to 'shorten' their flower period which does work to some extent. The F1 of Photo x Auto will appear as a photoperiod and some progeny will exhibit faster ripening.

I tried to take clones but those too turned into small flowers. My question is did you take the clones before it started to flower? If so then the clones may soon start to flower also. If not then I have no clue.
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

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They read the first posts and
twentyeight.threefive said:
The two you had wouldn't continue to flower once you moved them back to 18/6 or higher. If they did then so would the clones.

Edit: Besides autos don't flower when you change the light, they flower based on genetics. Photoperiods can start to flower on more light than 12/12. Each plant is different, it's not like they need exactly 12 hours of darkness to flower.
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Yeah, indoors I run 13.5 hours of light after flowering starts at 12/12. Then, I bump it back up and get bigger, better bud development. Later on I will drop the amount of light back to 12/12., outdoor plants start flowering long before there is only 12 hours of daylight.or darkness.
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

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Thir plants could just show a large amount of pre-flower development. I had a plant from the white family called, Chrystal, that once it started showing preflowers, just kept building them. I would pick them off of the mother periodically. Then when you went to actually flower the clones, it would explode with full flower development.
 
MATTYMATT726

MATTYMATT726

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Whoot!!! South Buffalo NY here.
Nubiewithboobies said:
I'm in NY. I have 2 autos going. Started them

I'm in NY. I wish there were "growers clubs" or classes. I have so many hours invested in research and I still would like a person to almost apprentice with...free labor...

I have those 2 autos outdoors since may 22. Here's a pic...I'm just not getting those good blooms and I've been providing nutes using FF soil and a trio of nutes to use at different stages. Foliar nutes didn't do much for veg, but I'm now using big blooms. I have about 20 small flora and preflowers. How do I boost the bloom? My begining cola is pretty small. Here's a pic of their size.. and me enjoying the aroma of the bigger lady.
Click to expand...
 
Nubiewithboobies

Nubiewithboobies

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twentyeight.threefive said:
You have much more control over your environment indoors if you have the equipment, although it's more expensive.

You're going to get a result equivalent to the effort you put into your grows. Experience will definitely help but for the best results you'll have to do a lot of reading also.
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Thanks! I've been studying... collegiate level reading complete with all nighters. I got that part underway. I love reading and watching you tube as of late. Investing soon, I was gonna buy a setup but am really putting out feelers about building one, I'm good with that stuff. And it keeps me off the couch. Lol
 
Nubiewithboobies

Nubiewithboobies

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JimmiP said:
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Don't be scared. It's just a plant and if it dies, you learned something and can always plant another.
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I'm learning to be more patient. With my self and my surroundings. I just wanna break into the market really. I'm a chef and really would like to grow to make edibles. With NY just emerging, learning to grow my own is a huge benefit instead of buying it and prepping. I've done it, but on a small scale, there are a lot of opportunities arising here.
 
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