Can The Shit Talking Stop Now?

mipbar

Well-Known Member
It's dead and gone. No matter how you feel about 19, it's gone forever. I hadn't been on the forum since Halloween and I come back to see that people are still talking shit...If 19 was "so popular" as all of these bogus web-polls done here said, then why the absolutely pathetic voter turn out? 18-29 year olds made up 9% of voters, this was the demographic that should have come out EN MASSE for 19...and they didnt. Whatever the issue is, there will never be any positive change for the young people of this country if we continue to voluntarily silence ourselves on voting day.

Yes, it's very obvious that I was opposed to 19. Still, I have to admit that I felt absolutely no relief from its failure. In fact, I was surprised and disappointed at the lack of determination of my peers. I thought for sure that this would get people to the polls, but I was wrong. Either way, if any of you want to see something happening in 2012 GET OFF YOUR ASS AND HELP MAKE IT HAPPEN. You might not like to hear that, especially coming from some a-hole on the internet but its absa-fucking-lutely true.

I think enough can be learned from 19's flaws and failure to make 2012 a reality. It's flaws divided our community, which was a stupid mistake - how could we possibly expect society at large to accept legislation that so many within the MJ community couldnt? And we aren't just talking about people on the internet, we are talking about ICONS in the MJ community that would not support 19. We (the CA-MJ community) need to present a bill that (mostly) we ALL agree on and will support with conviction, not demagougery, sloganeering and propagandizing.

But, the task will remain the individuals' to keep the intention of the CCHHI true to cause, because now you can bet your moms sweet ass that the pockets for 2012 will run deeper than a double ended dildo.

Keep vigilant, Guardians of the Reefer. Do not let this success render you soft and apathetic.
I love how you title the thread "Can the shit talking stop now?" ...

... and then proceed immediately to "Talking shit"

Classic!
 

veggiegardener

Well-Known Member
Drug Rescheduling Criteria


The following U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) Drug Rescheduling Criteria details the requirements that marijuana, currently a Schedule I drug, must meet before the DEA will agree to lower the marijuana's Schedule to permit physicians to easily prescribe it to patients. (see "What is Federal drug scheduling?", "Should marijuana be reclassified as a drug generally available by prescription (Schedule II or III)?," and the most recent Petition to Reschedule Cannabis (Marijuana)
(PDF)


DRUG ENFORCEMENT AGENCY'S FIVE-FACTOR TEST FOR [DRUG] RESCHEDULING

[Formulated in 1992 in response to a court challenge to scheduling.}

1. The drug's chemistry must be known and reproducible.
The substance's chemistry must be scientifically established to permit it to be reproduced in dosages which can be standardized. The listing of the substance in a current edition of one of the official compendia, as defined by section 201(j) of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, 21 USC 321(f), is sufficient generally to meet this requirement.
2. There must be adequate safety studies.

There must be adequate pharmacological and toxicological studies done by all methods reasonably applicable on the basis of which it could be fairly and reasonably concluded, by experts qualified by scientific training and experience to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of drugs, that the substance is safe for treating a specific, recognized disorder.
3. There must be adequate and well-controlled studies proving efficacy.
There must be adequate, well-controlled, well-designed, well-conducted, and well-documented studies, including clinical investigations, by experts qualified by scientific training and experience to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of drugs on the basis of which it could fairly and responsibly be concluded by such experts that the substance will have its intended effect in treating a specific, recognized disorder.
4. The drug must be accepted by qualified experts.
The drug must have a New Drug Application (NDA) approved by the Food and Drug Administration. . . or, a consensus of the national community of experts, qualified by scientific training and experience to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of drugs, accepts the safety and effectiveness of the substance for use in treating a specific, recognized disorder. A material conflict of opinion among experts precludes a finding of consensus.
5. The scientific evidence must be widely available.
In the absence of NDA approval, information concerning the chemistry, pharmacology, toxicology, and effectiveness of the substance must be reported, published, or otherwise widely available in sufficient detail to permit experts, qualified by scientific training and experience to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of drugs, to fairly and responsibly conclude the substance is safe and effective for use in treating a specific, recognized disorder.
[Cited Sources: LeCraw (1996) and 57 Federal Register 10499 (1992)]
I wish the FDA would use the same standards.
 

The Ruiner

Well-Known Member
My intention behind this thread was to begin the remediation process for 2012...I think that it's pretty fair to say that for any chance at 2012 the mud-flinging will have to stop... If you thought I was talking shit Mipbar about someone, lo siento, but I was just pointing out that one: unity will make or break us in 2012 and two: that the most disenfranchised demagraphic of this nation wont even get off their asses to vote for something they think will be good for themselves, the state, the country, and even the world.

These are some pretty serious obstacles to overcome...and time is precious.
 
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