canna nutes

az kid

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Has anyone used any of the stuff? I'm thinking about buying but for the price,i need more reassurance.
 

cocakola

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I never did but I would like to as well , but I her many ppl swear by it. Plus I have never heard any negative reviews only positive..
P.S. dont think its the nutes thats going to give you dank , there is more factors that come in to play....
Good Luck.
 

az kid

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I no that.. I'm mainly looking at there cannaboost. I've read nothing but great things about it.
 

HeartlandHank

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I used to use the full line up of Canna. Then I switched to half the lineup of House and Garden to save money. Then I switched to nothing but DynaGro Foliage Pro for veg and DynaGro GROW for flower

The only difference I have noticed between Canna, HnG, and Dyna is that Dyna is much much cheaper and a single bottle to deal with. Also, the leaves look healthier throughout flower with Dynagro. With HnG and Canna I had more leaf necrosis and the plants had leaf tip burn more often. DynaGro keeps them nice and green without burning.

Dyna is one, there are others. This gets said all day every day on RIU, but cannabis specific/cannabis marketed nutrients are marked waaaaay up and offer no advantage over the quality cheap complete nutes, like DynaGro. The additives are just some bullshit to take your money. Canna Boost = robbery. I went without the boost the last few grows that I used Canna... it made no difference.

Companies want you to believe that they are offering some great shit that will make your plants harvest way more. But the fact is that it's just a fucking plant. Just like any other plant, you can grow it with some cheap nutrients that you can pickup from a hardware store or plant nursery.
 

az kid

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So have you tried any flower additives heartland? I'm just trying to see if there's a "real" additive that works. For density and res build up
 

HeartlandHank

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So have you tried any flower additives heartland? I'm just trying to see if there's a "real" additive that works. For density and res build up
The flowering additives I have used are Pk 13/14 (Canna), Boost (Canna), BudXL (HnG) and Top Booster (HnG).

Running both with and without these additives I have not seen a noticeable difference. I used to use PK 13/14 at the first sign of flower then again near the end of week 5/beginning of week 6. I think PK 13/14 might have kick started flowering just a little earlier. Possibly saving me a couple days off of my harvest. For the price though, I don't even think it was worth it. I never did a side by side, it could have just been in my head. It also could have been the genetics I was growing at that time. Some Apollo 11, 7 week plants. I just remember that at the time I was saying to myself "yeah, this works". I sort of question it now though.

I am still using House and Garden Root Excel at certain times. Like when I transplant from veg to flower. I am not totally against all additives and cannabis marketed products, but I am no longer convinced that high P and K does something great for your plants in flower. I also think of the cost/benefit now days in my grow. It is easy to overlook the costs of stuff like nutrients and bulbs since it is such a profitable plant but it all adds up.

Bud density is mostly a genetic thing. Keeping cooler temps and good light levels will help your genetics meet their max potential...

Resin content is a genetic thing... High resin content plants/genetics will give you high resin content buds. Resin just doesn't come in a bottle.
 

HeartlandHank

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Have you heard any reviews on Humboldt crystal burst?
I have not. But, it looks like it is just 0-16-16. Pretty similar to a PK 13/14 or 0-13-14/
If you are having P and K deficiencies then it would be good to use. But if you are using a complete plant food balanced for MJ''s needs (9-3-6 for veg, 7-9-5 for flower, roughly) then you won't need a 0-16-16.

I tried to find a label for Crystal Burst but I could not find it. Most likely it is the same forms of P and K that are used in many cheaper nutrients, but without the N. I've been looking at the labels lately, and they are very telling. Much of the additives are just the same forms of N, P and K in different levels. They mark them way up because...? Because people will buy it, I guess.

I could be wrong, but imo, resin content is not something that can be improved with an additive. It is about adequate growing conditions and genetics. It's all about the genetics. Dump your money and time into genetics rather than bottles and expensive/complicated equipment and systems and you will get the best buds.

Didn't mean to jack your Canna thread or anything. I just hate seeing people spend way more for minimal returns. Good luck to you.
 

az kid

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No worries, id rather be informed then waste money. Now as for genetics I'm guessing i need to order seeds? What kind of seed companies are the best to go with, with strong genetics, from your experience.
 

thump easy

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in my opionion over the years i have made room for some of thier shit there rinozyme root something dont trip on the spelling their root formula is the shit for one type of rooot growth kinda like judo juice they take off to the sides like senappeeds house and gardens other roots are fucken bomb always pulls me out of root rot of course h2o2 but wen i have those problems in the summer thier fucken canna zyme the fucken best those two are the only thing i used in the past hand me down info from friends above me and man i love it i use it in diffrent ways thow diffrent times in my flower depending on the weeks and bounce the house and garden and cana back and forth but man that canna zyme is asome also i herd running that a and b with hard rock resinator is all you need from a friend that works at discount hydroponics i got homies at green cost who swear by heavy 16 man it all depends on how you grow..
 

HeartlandHank

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No worries, id rather be informed then waste money. Now as for genetics I'm guessing i need to order seeds? What kind of seed companies are the best to go with, with strong genetics, from your experience.
Yeah, if you can't get cuts from someone... order seeds.

Short answer: sannieshop daht c0m (fix it)
Long answer:
Man, there are lots of good breeders out there. Lots of good seedbanks too...
Attitude Seedbank
Hemp Depot
Sea of Seeds
Sannies Shop
Peakseedsbc (Don't forget the bc... peakseeds.com is a scam... peakseedsbc daht c0m is legit.)

There are more... but those ones I can speak of from experience. If you are on a budget.... Peakseedsbc is good, sannies shop is good, also BeanHo seeds at Hempdepot daht c0m. I have very high quality genetics from those three that were super cheap.

After you get good seeds.... the key to taking it to the next level is selecting a good mother from the pack of seeds. Each seed will have a little variation from it's siblings. Yield, resin, etc...
Whether you get 5 female seeds or 10 regular seeds... you will probably end up with about 4 healthy female plants... take cuts from those 4 females. Flower the cuttings and keep the original plant from seed in the vegetative state. Keep the cutting and mothers numbered so you know which clone is from which mother. After you flower the cutting, you get to see how each plant yields, resin content, pest/mold resistance, etc,,, then, just choose the best plant of the 4, throw out the others and you have yourself a great mother to pull clones from for years and years. Working from clones has many benefits. Most importantly... you know your mothers are top notch, so every inch of your flower room is always filled with something you know is going to be great.

It is a lot of work and takes a good 6 months to go from ordering the seeds to having your mother selected... but that is how you get GREAT genetics, rather than good genetics. If you want to step it up... select from more mothers... go through 2 packs to get 1 plant.

If the whole selecting a mother thing sounds like too much work... no sweat. Just order feminized seeds from a reputable breeder at one of the sites above and just grow from seed. Maybe you like variety and prefer that route anyway...

If you see stuff you like, just search around forums and see what people are saying about it. If it is no good, the word gets around.
 

jondamon

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I use Canna nutes and have found a winning combination.

I now use Canna Rhizotonic, canna Aqua Vega, Canna PK1314, Canna mono magnesium and canna mono Calcium.

During veg I use Vega at 10-30ml per 10litres
rhizotonic at 20ml per 10litres
calcium 1ml per 10litres
magnesium 1ml per 10litres.

Then during flowering I reduce the Rhizotonic down to 5ml per 10litres.
Adding PK1314 at 15ml per 10litres during weeks 3 and week 5.


Everything else stays the same.

Lush green well performing plants.

Most nutrient manufacturers don't provide enough N or Ca or Mg in their flowering nutrients for MJ. I have found using Canna's Aqua Vega along with the others mentioned provides enough of everything to keep plants healthy and performing well.



J
 

cocakola

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Heartland Hank has giving the OP and anyone reading a bunch of jewels , I sure wish I would of gotten this type of advice when I started would of saved me A LOT of time and money.. I agree completely Its All GENETICS, GENETICS , GENETICS. The best plant I ever grew was from bag seed(sour) and with little to no love. I have oredered seeds from Attitude and Herbies and have grown out a few strains. I have used Advanced , GH & Technaflora with little to No difference. Everything i've grown (hydroponically) has came out good but that one bagseed(sour) was Amazing with no love , she just had good GENETICS..... Good Luck!
 
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