Cannarado genetics

I found raising my temps up to about 82 helped with nutrient uptake under my leds, no need for calmag if your base nutrients have a good amount.

Officialoracle420 said:

I don’t use epsom every watering. I run LED’s. I may start using 2 tablespoons per gallon in my waterings. I may also consider using it in veg as a foliar. Also contains sulfur.

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2 tbsp per gallon of epsom is A LOT of magnesium and sulphur. I usually use no more than 1 or 2 grams per gallon.

Sugar rush nine, 6, and then 10. It’s a damn shame i can’t cut clones off of 6, oh well. They did stretch a little bit more in the past couple of days, but i’m going to up there dose in bloom nutrients tomorrow and hopefully kick them in to gear.

Super_Glued_to_deathOG said:

Aside from the purple stems how did yall know it was mag deficiency from the pics?

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Hey anything can be wrong with your plants.

The wonderful thing about forums is that you will get advice and varying opinions from people time to time. I would have first asked you If I saw this earlier what did you last feed your plants and to see some other ones I'm going through this problem today



These plants above have thrips. The symptoms are often mistaken for Calmag deficiencies and what not's. Most nutrients (not all) have a well balanced in there grow and blooms. Thats's why I said how are the other plants that you have been growing

Solution for me

Neems for the pupae and Swirkski for the adult leaves / branch for all the other plants.

Good Luck...

Foliar feeding is noticeable because the nutrients are primarily being used and absorbed by the leaves. As a soil grower, you’ll have far better results top dressing.

dubekoms said:

2 tbsp per gallon of epsom is A LOT of magnesium and sulphur. I usually use no more than 1 or 2 grams per gallon.

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1/4-1/2 tsp/gal typical feed rate if supplementing

For the last year, since I started running LED's, I have been adding 1.0-2.0 grams of Epsom salt per gallon and have not had any problems. I did notice some spots before I started using epsom salt but have now switched to all LED and use it every watering. The dude who built my light told me to use it and I forgot at first so since then it has all been good.

Lightgreen2k said:

Hey anything can be wrong with your plants.

The wonderful thing about forums is that you will get advice and varying opinions from people time to time. I would have first asked you If I saw this earlier what did you last feed your plants and to see some other ones I'm going through this problem today

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These plants above have thrips. The symptoms are often mistaken for Calmag deficiencies and what not's. Most nutrients (not all) have a well balanced in there grow and blooms. Thats's why I said how are the other plants that you have been growing

Solution for me View attachment 4645482

Neems for the pupae and Swirkski for the adult leaves / branch for all the other plants.

Good Luck...

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I tried to guess what was wrong with it myself i assumed it was potassium or nitrogen cause of what i read so i just upped my feeding im using fox farm trio cause im still learning but that kinda just bruned the tips thats why i came here but im always nervous about asking forums

dubekoms said:

I found raising my temps up to about 82 helped with nutrient uptake under my leds, no need for calmag if your base nutrients have a good amount.

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yessir when you raise the temps then you get the proper uptake and therefore no need to supplement. Well in most cases.

That’s why it’s so important to learn to read your plans don’t assume that there is a regimen that can fix everything!

dubekoms said:

I found raising my temps up to about 82 helped with nutrient uptake under my leds, no need for calmag if your base nutrients have a good amount.

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I disagree with this. I find the narrower band spectrum of LEDs causes nutrient uptake to be a bit different vs transportation rates. Your definately right about higher temps compensating for this but I run my temps 82-85 and see lots of Mg deficiency, not having the complete spectrum that HID or CMH provides is the difference imo affecting the photosynthesis which alters the nutrient absorption. This is just my theory. The peaks for chlorophyll are around 450 and 630 if I remember correctly and this was why those Blurple lights were started because folks thought you only needed those two spectrums. We quickly saw how missing spectrums affected growth which is why everyone switched over to white light which has a more broader band but still not as good as HID or CMH.

Officialoracle420 said:

yessir when you raise the temps then you get the proper uptake and therefore no need to supplement. Well in most cases.

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That is whats funking me up with the quantum boards. I keep the crib at 72ish and plants do great under t5 and hid but when I toss into flower under the boards they don't take to it well.

Sucks because I'm not turning the AC down, lol.

Same and I’m using evaporative cooling which I struggle to dial in to anything specific. More like cold as I can get it. I’m usually about 85 in the grow space but this summer I’m struggling, getting in the 90s. Still shouldn’t be catastrophic yet there’s all this magnesium imbalance I’m not used to.

nc208 said:

I disagree with this. I find the narrower band spectrum of LEDs causes nutrient uptake to be a bit different vs transportation rates. Your definately right about higher temps compensating for this but I run my temps 82-85 and see lots of Mg deficiency, not having the complete spectrum that HID or CMH provides is the difference imo affecting the photosynthesis which alters the nutrient absorption. This is just my theory. The peaks for chlorophyll are around 450 and 630 if I remember correctly and this was why those Blurple lights were started because folks thought you only needed those two spectrums. We quickly saw how missing spectrums affected growth which is why everyone switched over to white light which has a more broader band but still not as good as HID or CMH.

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My base nutrients have a lot of calcium and magnesium so maybe that's why I don't have to add any extra stuff. I did have problems with organic soil under leds which is why I switched to synthetics and promix. I agree that the spectrum is deficient in something, some strains and plants seem to do better than others. I had some cuttings vegging outdoors under the sun this spring and as soon as I put them under the leds in my tent they started drooping and yellowing like crazy, had to give them a couple weeks to get used to the led light and up the nutrients. Running lower wattage helps too. Anything over 600 watts in my 4x4 tent and the plants start looking stressed. I keep the lights up at the top of the tent permanently and let the plants grow into them, I like to keep the lights at least 18 inches away in full flower.

Thanks for all the great tips on lights and nutrients!
I grew some Candy Margies and they were alright. Not a lot of flavor but they were frosty and beautiful! So didn’t keep any.
Anyone grow the Doho crosses? I just popped some Grape Pie Doho freebies. I’ll let you know when that time comes.

Omkarananda said:

Thanks for all the great tips on lights and nutrients!
I grew some Candy Margies and they were alright. Not a lot of flavor but they were frosty and beautiful! So didn’t keep any.
Anyone grow the Doho crosses? I just popped some Grape Pie Doho freebies. I’ll let you know when that time comes.

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You never know what your gonna find. Hopefully those Doho turn to be fire. Out of my fresh biscotti 1 of the 3 phenos was a dank OG gas, didn't keep that pheno but wasn't expecting that when looking at the parents.

growster_23 said:

Meatbreath x the Mac is MacRib

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Apparently its mac 1 x grape pie

Topanga lemon #7 tip of the last big nug I’m puffing down offa that chonger plant. I seeded a few branches with the some real deal mr nice super silver haze pollen provided by a friend, and I’m definitely excited to see what those do in the future. Next up is probably the mushers and a pack of csi either tk x gg4 or tk x lemon tree. I’ve got 5 csi sour d x Cali o fems going into flower in the next week or so. I’ve been on an orange kush kick after seeing these topanga lems put out and I’m definitely interested in hunting anything og/sour/citrus to make some beans with. These topanga lemons are fire, especially 6 and this guy, #7. Not much citrus, more of a rich earthy kush flavor. Before curing it definitely came with some asphalt terps, which were alright, but after jarring the smoke is way more nuanced.

edit- I slow dry and dry trim which, imo, is better than anything wet trimmed off the bat. My experience is wet trimming is the worst thing you can do to your flower. 70 or below and humidity around 50 for 1 1/2-2 weeks drying, dry trim. Any curing after that is just added excellence.

Cafe Machiatto
Just under 2 months old. Taking clones today and flip to flower in a week. So far great structure and I got lucky with 7 females out of 11 seeds. I threw the boys out at my buddies place who is flowering them out to find the best.

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