Christianity has been debunked once and for all

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Jesus Christ is right. I was told this in a dream to repeat; I suppose it was told to me by an angel. The link below is a blog of mine that is a psycho-spiritual approach to today's fundamental challenges, such as understanding God and faith, and self and other things that are relative.

I am a responsible advocate of marijuana use. Obviously, I think that the smoking of it has the worse long term effects; but I think a balance and nutritious pH balance of the physiological system is a healthy prevention and intervention thereof any smoking side effects if done at its best.

I think that mind maturity is also important. I know that many new users are relatively young and likely naive to the mental effects of it and how it can affect our daily lives; this to me is why being realistic and seeking greater Truths are important. I believe that sobriety is living in the Truth, because the Truth will eventually tell your heart and conscience when its too much, time to stop or not to do so. Maturity is established when a person stand in what they believe in even when its not popular. “The Truth shall set you free”

Priorities are still important in everything you do. We must continue to serve the Lord God Most High if no one else. All good Truth leads through Jesus Christ.

I apologize to those of you who have been traumatize by some person using the word of God to their personal gains, this is called debauchery and God ultimately will penalize those who do it.

In all your getting get understanding; never let a person come between you and your personal relationship/courting of God and your true destiny.

The Virtuous Intelligence Theory
 
Microdizzey

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awesome post man. i totally agree with this.

most importantly, it's not about religions. people should have a personal relationship with God. they don't need to announce their beliefs to anybody or join groups of other believers if they don't want to. Jesus did say to tell people about God and spread the word, but i think it's too late now. the world already knows about God, it's up to the individual person to make a decision before the Return of Christ.

if you aren't prepared to see it, you will not be able to comprehend it. thus you will be left behind.

sad thing is, people are way too overwhelmed in their pitiful lives. and so dumbed down that they can't accept something that they can't see. most people will not understand or care about this because money/sex/drugs/fame/material possessions are more important. :peace:
 
mexiblunt

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But there was no" otherside" of the planet then? The earth was flat remember. I guess the fishermen thought they would fall of the earth before they could reach the aztecs,north american natives etc.
 
jsknow

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If anyone wants to look up these verses, they're in the Book of Mark, Chapter 16: KJV

M'r:16:1: And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
M'r:16:2: And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
M'r:16:3: And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
M'r:16:4: And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
M'r:16:5: And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
M'r:16:6: And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
M'r:16:7: But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.
M'r:16:8: And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.
M'r:16:9: Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
M'r:16:10: And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.
M'r:16:11: And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.
M'r:16:12: After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.
M'r:16:13: And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them.
M'r:16:14: Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
M'r:16:15: And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
M'r:16:16: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Another interesting point that's been raised is that in the time of Jesus, everyone still believed the world was flat; however you will never find a single verse in the Bible that says the world is flat. An abundance of information is in the Bible that's contrary to popular belief, even popular beliefs held today but if you're going to be able to understand and even see those facts, you have to open your heart. The Bible tells us that too. Faith is one of the primary principals of the Bible and Christianity.

Just to clear up another comment I read by someone that said the Bible was written by a man. The Bible was written by several different men and over a time period of about 2-7 thousand years, which makes it even more remarkable that there has never been a single fact contained in the Bible debunked.



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trishmybiscuits

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jsknow said:
M'r:16:15: And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

which makes it even more remarkable that there has never been a single fact contained in the Bible debunked.*
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This proves that Jesus wasn't who the Christians say he was. "Go ye into all the world" just pertains to what people knew about the world at the time. It indicates a knowledge that didn't transcend that of the ordinary person.

And secondly, the bible has no credibility whatsoever!
 
EarthlyPassions

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jsknow said:
The Bible was written by several different men and over a time period of about 2-7 thousand years, which makes it even more remarkable that there has never been a single fact contained in the Bible debunked.
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That's an excellent point. It WAS written by a lot of people over a long period of time. And I think that excuses any fallibilities that could be found. We are only human after all.
 
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EarthlyPassions said:
That's an excellent point. It WAS written by a lot of people over a long period of time. And I think that excuses any fallibilities that could be found. We are only human after all.
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But it doesn't excuse any fallibilities. Instead, it's the reason why the bible doesn't have any credibility.
 
Microdizzey

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how about no books have any credibility because they are all written by imperfect humans.

now everybody's happy.
 
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jsknow said:
there has never been a single fact contained in the Bible debunked.
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What?!

1 Kings 7:23 "He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about."

Circumference = Pi() x Diameter, which means the line would have to have been over 31 cubits. In order for this to be rounding, it would have had to overstate the amount to ensure that the line did "compass it round about."

Lev 11:20-21: "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you."

Fowl do not go upon all four.

Lev 11:6: "And the hare, because he cheweth the cud..."

Hare do not chew the cud.

Deut 14:7: " "...as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof."

For the hare this is wrong on both counts: Hare don’t chew the cud and they do divide the "hoof."

Jonah 1:17 says, "...Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights" Matt 12:40 says "...Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly..."

whales and fish are not related

Matt 13:31-32: " "the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree."

There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don't grow into trees.

Matt 4:8: " Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them."

Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth.

These are the birds you are to detest and not eat because they are detestable: the eagle, ... any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat (Leviticus 11:13-19)
You may eat any clean bird. But these you may not eat: the eagle, ... any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. (Deuteronomy 14:11-17)



A bat is not a bird. Note that this isn't just an arbitrary classification that the Western and European world has created. A bat is a bird as much as a Cocker Spaniel is a cat.



All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: ... Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket, or grasshopper. (Leviticus 11:20-22)


Insects, as part of their definition, have six legs. (Spiders are arachnids, not insects.)

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... The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved. (Psalms 93:1)
... The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved. (1 Chronicles 16:30)
He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (Psalms 104:5)
Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel: "O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon. (Joshua 10:12)
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Note that the first reference to "world" may mean "the way things are", and that in the last reference "earth" may mean "land". In the context the writer discusses clouds, winds, waters, and mountains, which seem to support this view. These passages were used by the Church to convict Galileo of heresy.






... Just a few to get you started. Those are factual errors and not just the millions of contradictions that are also there.
 
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jsknow said:
Another interesting point that's been raised is that in the time of Jesus, everyone still believed the world was flat; however you will never find a single verse in the Bible that says the world is flat. An abundance of information is in the Bible that's contrary to popular belief, even popular beliefs held today but if you're going to be able to understand and even see those facts, you have to open your heart. The Bible tells us that too. Faith is one of the primary principals of the Bible and Christianity.
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... he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth. (Isaiah 11:12)



After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, ... (Revelation 7:1)



Oh Lord, ... to you the nations will come from the ends of the earth... (Jeremiah 16:19)



... and there before me stood a tree in the middle of the land. Its height was enormous. The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth. (Daniel 4:10-11)






Of course these can be explained away by suggesting it is just saying it is an expression, but it still imply a flat area to have corners. Thus, correct or not, I still found passages saying the earth is flat. SO I WIN!!! :D Just kidding :hump:

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trishmybiscuits

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nitrobud said:
What?!

1 Kings 7:23 "He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about."

Circumference = Pi() x Diameter, which means the line would have to have been over 31 cubits. In order for this to be rounding, it would have had to overstate the amount to ensure that the line did "compass it round about."

Lev 11:20-21: "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you."

Fowl do not go upon all four.

Lev 11:6: "And the hare, because he cheweth the cud..."

Hare do not chew the cud.

Deut 14:7: " "...as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof."

For the hare this is wrong on both counts: Hare don’t chew the cud and they do divide the "hoof."

Jonah 1:17 says, "...Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights" Matt 12:40 says "...Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly..."

whales and fish are not related

Matt 13:31-32: " "the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree."

There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don't grow into trees.

Matt 4:8: " Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them."

Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth.
These are the birds you are to detest and not eat because they are detestable: the eagle, ... any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat (Leviticus 11:13-19)
You may eat any clean bird. But these you may not eat: the eagle, ... any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. (Deuteronomy 14:11-17)



A bat is not a bird. Note that this isn't just an arbitrary classification that the Western and European world has created. A bat is a bird as much as a Cocker Spaniel is a cat.



All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: ... Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket, or grasshopper. (Leviticus 11:20-22)


Insects, as part of their definition, have six legs. (Spiders are arachnids, not insects.)

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... The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved. (Psalms 93:1)
... The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved. (1 Chronicles 16:30)
He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (Psalms 104:5)
Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel: "O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon. (Joshua 10:12)

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Note that the first reference to "world" may mean "the way things are", and that in the last reference "earth" may mean "land". In the context the writer discusses clouds, winds, waters, and mountains, which seem to support this view. These passages were used by the Church to convict Galileo of heresy.






... Just a few to get you started. Those are factual errors and not just the millions of contradictions that are also there.
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This is great stuff!
 
Prophecy

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trishmybiscuits said:
This is great stuff!
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I think it borderline insanity. I think it is from a perspective of self righteousness; and personally, I question your facts. It sounds like you have manipulated the wording to fit your self righteousness.

And lastly, because the Bible tells "not to quarrel over things you know" I believe you are critiquing from the wrong eye; instead of the natural eye; I suggest you look through your minds/spiritual eye. This eye has to be developed by virtue through Virtue.

I definitely see science at its best and math, the constellations and all will / are consistent with the Spiritual things of God, so if you really want to use them you have to be responsible and accountable in the Truth of them according to (super)nature, not according to self righteousness.
 
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nitrobud said:
... he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth. (Isaiah 11:12)



After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, ... (Revelation 7:1)



Oh Lord, ... to you the nations will come from the ends of the earth... (Jeremiah 16:19)



... and there before me stood a tree in the middle of the land. Its height was enormous. The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth. (Daniel 4:10-11)






Of course these can be explained away by suggesting it is just saying it is an expression, but it still imply a flat area to have corners. Thus, correct or not, I still found passages saying the earth is flat. SO I WIN!!! :D Just kidding :hump:

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Where i come from the earth is flat for as far as you can see.It is that way for hundreds of miles in any direction. The earth than is flat from my perspective.
How many times has that been translated?

4 corners no way implies flatness.
 
jsknow

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I have the answers to a lot of the Bible references that have been quoted but not all of them. I'll be posting, or having more knowledgeable people than myself posting answers as soon as I can. Be patient, I work about 70 hours a week.

I'm very glad to see the interest in the truth that has been posted here! I assure you every single item will be answered to the best of my ability!

One thing you have to keep in mind about the Bible is that it was translated into English from Hebrew and Greek. There are many mis-translations. For instance I heard recently that the verse in the KJV where Jesus said "In my Father's house are many mansions" actually in the original Greek said "in my Father's house are many dwelling places".

Please don't overload me by raising more questions until I can get the ones already asked answered, but keep researching the Bible and we'll get all your questions answered.

Thanks for the great questions and the quality of your posts! You may not believe this right now but I can feel God working here. I believe this forum is going to do a lot of good. Like I said in one of my earlier posts, when I started reading the Bible, I was out to find mistakes too!
 
Microdizzey

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jsknow said:
I have the answers to a lot of the Bible references that have been quoted but not all of them. I'll be posting, or having more knowledgeable people than myself posting answers as soon as I can. Be patient, I work about 70 hours a week.

I'm very glad to see the interest in the truth that has been posted here! I assure you every single item will be answered to the best of my ability!

One thing you have to keep in mind about the Bible is that it was translated into English from Hebrew and Greek. There are many mis-translations. For instance I heard recently that the verse in the KJV where Jesus said "In my Father's house are many mansions" actually in the original Greek said "in my Father's house are many dwelling places".

Please don't overload me by raising more questions until I can get the ones already asked answered, but keep researching the Bible and we'll get all your questions answered.

Thanks for the great questions and the quality of your posts! You may not believe this right now but I can feel God working here. I believe this forum is going to do a lot of good. Like I said in one of my earlier posts, when I started reading the Bible, I was out to find mistakes too!
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I like that quote. where ever heaven may be, God and our celestial friends are preparing their land for us! :)
 
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40acres said:
Where i come from the earth is flat for as far as you can see.It is that way for hundreds of miles in any direction. The earth than is flat from my perspective.
How many times has that been translated?

4 corners no way implies flatness.
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If Jesus was who the Christians say he was, he not only would've known the exact shape of the earth, he would've known the whereabouts of all the continents and their inhabitants as well. Remember, it was his father who supposedly created the earth. Jesus was supposed to be one in the same with his father. To say he wouldn't have known that would be tantamount to the being who created the earth not knowing what in the hell it was he created.
 
Microdizzey

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he's the son of God. When he lived on Earth, he didn't know everything, he just knew what was right and good. He still felt every human emotion, felt hunger and pain, he was human with some supernatural abilities.

maybe not even supernatural. i think we humans have the ability to heal each other, if done a certain way.
 
imtylerdammit

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Religion is a BELIEF! You either believe in something or you believe in nothing. How about we all just agree that something bigger then ourselves made everything. Whether it be science-related or "God" related. Senseless banter is useless and only brings about feelings of misanthropy.

EVERYBODY FUCKING LOVE EVERYBODY!:peace:
 
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