Milovan
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Bravo, well said!
CLONE ONLY STRAIN. Please elaborate
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puffdatchronic
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Basically my understanding is; every single seed will produce a unique individual, so sometimes that unique individual is SO good that people just want to keep it going forever. Breeding it will result in similar but essentially different plants, but we dont want different , we want the exact same.
Cascadian
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Not really, take a clone only CBD strain for example. Sour Tsunami seeds have a 1 in 4 chance of containing the high CBD pheno which has 10+% CBD and 6+% THC.
The Sour Tsunami #3 clone only has 10+% CBD and under 1% THC making it non psychoactive etc. If you cross this to another Sour Tsunami seed you might increase your odds of getting progeny with the same traits but you will still be looking for a needle in a hay stack... It won't be the #3 cut in seed form.
The same can be said for a clone only cut with a pineapple smell or pink pistils though the gene interactions would obviously be different.
I hope that helps.
GreenSanta
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yeah well until somebody else makes the spacebomb x chemo cross its clone only strain, it only exist under the form of a clone right now... as for the spacegrin, good luck breeding dr.grinspoon with spacebomb and finding a pheno that doesnt shoot pollen. My pheno was special and also was a volunteer in the garden, one in a million she is.
colonuggs
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I have a lot of clone only strains....Been collecting them over the years
then people say they have bubba too or sour diesel or cheese ......try mine and are asking why is the smell taste & high better....Cause its pre98, ecsd, Exodus clone only
Clone only..... is your cut to that particular strain that you have cloned or someone else did.....everyone gets there own cut from seed....all weed came from seed at some point...some people just clone for years.....some peoples cuts ( plants genetics) are better than others
then people say they have bubba too or sour diesel or cheese ......try mine and are asking why is the smell taste & high better....Cause its pre98, ecsd, Exodus clone only
Clone only..... is your cut to that particular strain that you have cloned or someone else did.....everyone gets there own cut from seed....all weed came from seed at some point...some people just clone for years.....some peoples cuts ( plants genetics) are better than others
Adrosmokin
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To your knowledge you're the only one to cross Spacebomb x Chemo. But, if you popped another 10 seeds of them and found a couple identical phenos from the previous run, how is that "Clone Only"? It's the individual that stands out from a pool of many. Not just the fact that it is an, as far as you know, new cross.
GreenSanta
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exactly!
We will have to agree to disagree I guess! I suspect the male spacebomb I used was a tiny bomb pheno from looking at the outcome of most crosses, The chemo was more stable but still you could try to cross spacebomb and chemo and never come out with the same genetic mix.
unfortunately I did not reveg this one, she was more chemo than spacebomb and also extremely resinous
This is the one I kept, my clone only strain.
Her clone, this one wasnt veg enough from clone so she stayed small still grew nice little buds. I have another one right now that is just as big as the mom was with bigger nugs.
she's my best cutting for making hash
Adrosmokin
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FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
CLONE ONLY STRAIN...
At some point, in the clones ancestry, the actual strain must have been produced from seed, yes???
So the original breeder/creator DOES have seeds....
but they CHOOSE not to recreate for seed
and will only part with cuttings.
This is wrong....When the breeder breeds his plants he may make some seeds of his cross. Now lets say he grows out 100 of those seeds and finds one plant that has the characteristics he likes. This will be a clone only varient with no seed unless he goes on to make fem seeds from it. If not then it will be clone only as he does not have another seed to reproduce that picked pheno type of the cross. Each seed from the original cross can vary only cutting from that selection will be the exact same ie clone only.
At some point, in the clones ancestry, the actual strain must have been produced from seed, yes???
So the original breeder/creator DOES have seeds....
but they CHOOSE not to recreate for seed
and will only part with cuttings.
This is wrong....When the breeder breeds his plants he may make some seeds of his cross. Now lets say he grows out 100 of those seeds and finds one plant that has the characteristics he likes. This will be a clone only varient with no seed unless he goes on to make fem seeds from it. If not then it will be clone only as he does not have another seed to reproduce that picked pheno type of the cross. Each seed from the original cross can vary only cutting from that selection will be the exact same ie clone only.
Native Humboldt
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Here in Humboldt most strains are a clone only. I have tried to copy the phenos of several of them over the years but just can't seem to make an exact. I have several local strains in my clone room that I cannot seem to copy even after 8 years of trying to select only the traits I want to keep some of them are Trainwreck, pre 98 Bubba, GSC and Blue Dream. GSC is a fairly new animal I would like to tame but it seems to throw random traits into every seed. I have read where the original breeders can generate seeds that are really stable for one generation then when crossed a second time will be unstable. I'm not sure how that works but several strains that I have seeded over the years are almost clone like in traits from the mother and father. I hope to master the seed at some point in my life but I will probably run out of time trying. I think mother nature likes to keep the control of her seeds all to herself.
TonightYou
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Clone onlys have a couple of components when discussing them in the community. For one, any plant can be a clone only, meaning it's a special plant one finds when popping beans. m With regards to what makes a clone only special, depends on the desired traits exhibited. Perhaps as others before me posted, it yields higher, has better potency, perhaps it has a desirable aroma, and the list can go on as to why a plant is special to someone.
With regards to to the community term, a clone only strain is a plant that is special for for the desired traits qualities laid out before, and the community has recognized it as special due to those qualities.
I haven't exhibited any loss of vigor from cloning plants one adores. The most cloned plant I have has been cloned over 10 times so far. I basically take cuts and put her into flower as I don't have room to keep mother plants. She always roots quickly and predictably. She grows strong, and is predictable in outcome. Perhaps plants that are cloned do lose vigor over time, or genetic drift is real. I'm not educated enough on this topic to have an opinion but i do find the topic interesting, particularly regarding conversation on the different types of clocks plants keep.
With regards to to the community term, a clone only strain is a plant that is special for for the desired traits qualities laid out before, and the community has recognized it as special due to those qualities.
I haven't exhibited any loss of vigor from cloning plants one adores. The most cloned plant I have has been cloned over 10 times so far. I basically take cuts and put her into flower as I don't have room to keep mother plants. She always roots quickly and predictably. She grows strong, and is predictable in outcome. Perhaps plants that are cloned do lose vigor over time, or genetic drift is real. I'm not educated enough on this topic to have an opinion but i do find the topic interesting, particularly regarding conversation on the different types of clocks plants keep.
Adrosmokin
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Yes, plants grown from seed are different, even if they're sometimes too close to tell. There is bound to be something desirable in a plant, whether you find it to be or someone else. If we all looked at it literally, like every plant is "clone only", then what is the point of using the term? I guess you could look at it like a large group of any plant that isn't shitty, and then within that group we have elite cuts?
twostrokenut
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I will put it in simplest terms for myself cause all y'all are technically correct........
Clone only.
That ever elusive super dank freak seed that popped in one tiny bag of pounds upon pounds of sensi with no pollen.
UK cheese was one....freak of skunk no?
OG was one....sour D....green crack and bubba oh my.
So I crossed two strains never crossed, now I have a clone only....technically correct.
Can you replicate the clone only flowers?
This is the true measure.
Clone only.
That ever elusive super dank freak seed that popped in one tiny bag of pounds upon pounds of sensi with no pollen.
UK cheese was one....freak of skunk no?
OG was one....sour D....green crack and bubba oh my.
So I crossed two strains never crossed, now I have a clone only....technically correct.
Can you replicate the clone only flowers?
This is the true measure.
colonuggs
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NO you cant from seed but clones produce the same flowers everytime
Wizard.of.Dank
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i agree with this here, ive had a plant ive grown for two years handed it off and got it back after a year, it hasnt lost vigor, it still produces well. most clone only strains are a SELECTION of a pheno like GSC whis is freaking amazing!!!! "clone only" i think just hypes up the name just like putting "IBL" on the end
Silky Shagsalot
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i have never had the 2 side by side. but if you're talking about which plant would look the more, productive. the more branchier, healthier looking plant, i'd choose the clone. if i take cuts, it's in early flower. very branchy/growth tippy, lol. indoor plants don't need a tap-root to go searching for nutes, and no hurricane force winds to deal with, usually...