CLW Solarstorm 880

makomachine

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I'm a new grower looking for a flowering setup. I'm vegging under HO T5 6 bulb fixture and wanting a flowering setup for a ~4x5 area. LED is where I'm settling and have it narrowed down to Bloom Onyx, Area51 XGS, and now a third 'used' option - 4 month old solarstorm 880 for $850. New my decision was a toss up on the bloom and XGS - but this third option just came available and has me second guessing things a bit. Thoughts?
 

puffenuff

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Solarstorm 880 at that price would be my choice for sure. Won't cover the whole space. Maybe 3x3 so grabbing some onyx and/or a51 panels to supplement would be ideal. Also check out the apache tech 600 for killer 4x4 coverage.
 

makomachine

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AT600 is on my drool list - maybe when I take the tent to 8x8 - funded a bit light for that one! I e-mailed CLW to find out about warranty coverage and we'll see what they say. If it was the AT600 used - this thread would have been titled, 'Look what I stole...'
 

blowincherrypie

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idk if they still do their journal program, but they used to give a 50% discount so you could get a new light for that price.. But even their new light is old news..
 

makomachine

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idk if they still do their journal program, but they used to give a 50% discount so you could get a new light for that price.. But even their new light is old news..
So when you say 'old news', are you saying its not worth the money in this deal? If you have experience with the unit I'm all ears - I've been a bit leery as real 'review' data is scarce from what I can find...
 

GroErr

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I'm a new grower looking for a flowering setup. I'm vegging under HO T5 6 bulb fixture and wanting a flowering setup for a ~4x5 area. LED is where I'm settling and have it narrowed down to Bloom Onyx, Area51 XGS, and now a third 'used' option - 4 month old solarstorm 880 for $850. New my decision was a toss up on the bloom and XGS - but this third option just came available and has me second guessing things a bit. Thoughts?
Hi mako, hate to add to your list but there is another option worth considering, depending on your timing you can see what they can do. Can't 100% recommend them just yet as I haven't finished the first run. But I was in the same boat as you, tossing around A51, Apache, DIY LED's and ended up with this Sun System 315W CMH using the Philips Elite Agro 3100k for flowering. 2 of these would cover your space extremely well, a single light covers 3x3' very well (from my own experience/observation, not a spec sheet) just shy of $1,000 for 2 of them, imo they surpass anything in the market right now in the 1000W hps alternatives. Cool, super-efficient and those Agro bulbs provide long life, not a lot different than all the benefits of good LED's but with incredible light/specs/efficiency. Even at this point in the first run, I'm impressed enough to recommend them with some caution, current run is 10 days + ahead of my last run in bud development with these lights. If you have the time you can follow my thread 9sig) and decide when it's finished, I'm about 5-6 weeks from pulling the first plant. Cheers...
 

makomachine

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Brilliant GroErr - will follow as I'm ALWAYS interested in efficient alternatives and that price made me smile! Much appreciated on the input.
 

blowincherrypie

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So when you say 'old news', are you saying its not worth the money in this deal? If you have experience with the unit I'm all ears - I've been a bit leery as real 'review' data is scarce from what I can find...
I had a 200w CLW bloom booster, and I really feel it's just a step or two above some of the better Chinese units being sold today.
Sure they added some white, but imo they would have to change their whole set up, it just creates too much heat.

To answer your question, I think that is about the price that it should be and shouldn't be viewed as some great deal.. I still think you're better off with a couple RW's..
 

makomachine

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Tha
I had a 200w CLW bloom booster, and I really feel it's just a step or two above some of the better Chinese units being sold today.
Sure they added some white, but imo they would have to change their whole set up, it just creates too much heat.

To answer your question, I think that is about the price that it should be and shouldn't be viewed as some great deal.. I still think you're better off with a couple RW's..
Thanks for that input - I've passed on the unit and considering other options. I'm only on my 4th day with clones so have time to mull this over.
 

makomachine

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I tried a CLW SolarFlare 200-watt VegMaster. It did OK, but didn't impress me more than my T5s for vegging. I recently sold it on ebay.

I just bought a new Apache Tech AT600.
Man, I really like the looks of that AT600. Not cheap but seems top notch quality and output. You have a grow journal going with it?
 

makomachine

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Hey mako, if you want to see what those AT600's can do in the right hands, check out this thread, GreenGenes posted a very thorough side-by-side grow against HPS. The results speak for themselves.
Pretty straightforward I'd say! Always comes down to funds, and just a bit too much green for me at the moment. It's a bright time for the technology - pun intended!
 

GroErr

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Pretty straightforward I'd say! Always comes down to funds, and just a bit too much green for me at the moment. It's a bright time for the technology - pun intended!
Yeah, they're great lights for sure, the initial investment is high but they obviously can produce well. Technology is improving quickly and there seems to be a lot of LED converts in the market recently, that should drive some volume, reduce price and generate some real innovation. I'm going to stick with DIY for LED's though for a bit, I like a lot of smaller panels for flexibility and typically have a lot of different grows on the go so that fits well into my needs. My final decision on the Sun System was a bit of a leap of faith based on the specs as they looked great on paper, the size fits into my room well, allowing me to run other lights, and the cost per watt is lower than any high end LED's right now.
 

makomachine

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Yeah, they're great lights for sure, the initial investment is high but they obviously can produce well. Technology is improving quickly and there seems to be a lot of LED converts in the market recently, that should drive some volume, reduce price and generate some real innovation. I'm going to stick with DIY for LED's though for a bit, I like a lot of smaller panels for flexibility and typically have a lot of different grows on the go so that fits well into my needs. My final decision on the Sun System was a bit of a leap of faith based on the specs as they looked great on paper, the size fits into my room well, allowing me to run other lights, and the cost per watt is lower than any high end LED's right now.
Yes, I'm very interested in how your yield turns out. I've found a couple of the LEC's used for $350 a piece, including a tent, and waiting on some response from the seller. My first grow and think these are a nice balance between the ultra high end of LED and traditional HID tech from an efficiency and cost perspective. Still no final decisions made, but my clones are just now growing roots so have some time to shop around.
 

GroErr

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Yes, I'm very interested in how your yield turns out. I've found a couple of the LEC's used for $350 a piece, including a tent, and waiting on some response from the seller. My first grow and think these are a nice balance between the ultra high end of LED and traditional HID tech from an efficiency and cost perspective. Still no final decisions made, but my clones are just now growing roots so have some time to shop around.
Wow, if those are legit and relatively new they sound like a great deal. If you're just rooting now you definitely have some time to follow some grows and see the final outcome. If you don't have 220/240v circuits or the ability to put one in, just make sure they're the 120v version, or you can consider buying a separate transformer (relatively cheap) to run them at 120v.
 

gk skunky

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From what I've seen so far imho it looks like the onyx bloom is the best bang for the buck. My buddy dxe with 3 got a very similar yield to GG with his apache. For what GG'S AT600 draws at the wall the 3 onyx are pretty close. The big difference is the price. ~$1900-2000 for the AT600 shipped and about $1000 for 3 onyx blooms shipped. Call and talk to Mike I believe it is. Though as far as watts go I think the rw 150 does very well for its low wattage consumption. I'm speaking out of my ass on this next statement and GG may agree or disagree, but from what I've seen with me and others I feel 4 rw-150s pulling less watts than the at600 would do just as good of a job. Though price would be pretty similar for the lights. So only benefits between those two in comparison that I see would be a little less wattage consumption with the rws and more adjustment versatility with 4 rws vs 1 at600.

While the 3 onyx would be more wattage than the at 600 as far as up front cost go if that's a driving factor you cant really beat the onyxs performance for the price for a manufactured light.

Its all give and take. No light is perfect they all have some pro and con if you did in to it. Just depends on you, your needs, and which fits them the best.
 
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