Concerns About Telling my Caregiver that I'm trying a Grow.
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nl3004.kind
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there is merit to both forms of learning... i've read hundreds of books, been online for 10 of them, been growing for more than 15 years... worked all different kinds of systems... it is quite difficult for the first-timer to avoid all the mistakes that come with growing indoor for the first time, but if you are lucky enough to dodge that set of issues, then you may then think that "growing is sooo easy" which would be a mistake... now if you are getting ok or crap quality buds, you ought to be able to do better than that with just dirt and water indoors, as long as you make sure that you have pest control dialed in... i would say the mistake that almost all first timers make is to spend too much on gear (or systems) and not enough on books... if you spend 5k on lights and hydro, nutes and testers; but then don't spend as little as 20$ on a single book, you have already made a mistake... the details in the books can be daunting, but you don't need to read the whole book, just the parts on germinating seeds, vegetative growth, flowering growth, pests, and plant issues (pix of disease, nutrient shortcomings ect)... once you get to the harvest time, you may want to read the harvesting and curing stuff parts (though some purists would say that you ought to read that part as well, beforehand)... it is not that you need a thousand books, just one or two to walk you through the process, and to be a reference for when you need an answer right this second... online will help as well, but it is difficult to tell who the 13 year olds are vs the real old pros are, but you are an adult, you will be able to figure it out... if you need help, we are here for that exact reason, and i personally will help as i can... post a journal, and make sure that those who are following are contributing positively or do not listen to them... first and most important piece of free advice??? grow a tomato, an orchid, corn or anything really... if you can not grow, you can not grow... don't expect that somehow cannabis will be super easy to grow, it takes doing like anything else... give it love, and it will love you back...
shotrocker
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Thanks for the advice. I have Ed Rosenthal's Growers handbook and a book and video from Cervantes. All the details and ways to go wrong are somewhat intimidating which is one reason I'm happy to find this site. Experienced growers like yourself help me concentrate on what matters moist. Too late to start with vegetables - my grow journal has already started!
dbkick
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I'm not sure this has been mentioned in th is thread but a caregiver only cares about owning your plant count :/
I don't know how laws are there (or here) but from what I understand IF you have an assigned caregiver you'd better have some sort of contract that states you can grow this number and the caregiver the remainder. Assigning a caregiver here just hands your right to grow over to them.
I don't know how laws are there (or here) but from what I understand IF you have an assigned caregiver you'd better have some sort of contract that states you can grow this number and the caregiver the remainder. Assigning a caregiver here just hands your right to grow over to them.
shotrocker
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Here in Maine a recent change in the law permits one to grow as part of their quota. Patients are allowed 6 flowering plants or 2&1/2 oz's every 2 weeks. Like much about the new law, it is imprecise on how this breaks down with combinations. Maybe my caregiver would have more concern with this than me. After 40+ years of successfully breaking weed laws I am legal for the first time, and so, perhaps I worry less. Up here, the caregiver system, in place for over a dozen years seems to fly under the radar as opposed to all the noise around dispensaries. Maine has a tradition of growing your own vegetables and also values minding one's own business.
st0wandgrow
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Best of luck to you shotrocker!! I think it's great that you are giving this a go! If you approach this the right way with your caregiver, he should be fine with it. Perhaps you guys can coordinate your grows to the extent that you are running different varieties, and could perhaps trade some meds once in a while. Variety is the spice of life! As far as your grow is concerned, don't sweat it too much. Marijuana is a very hardy plant. I made all sorts of mistakes when I first started, but still ended up with some nice smoke. As you get more comfortable with things, you'll start figuring stuff out and really begin to dial in your grow. Be sure to take plenty of notes while you're feeling your way through this. Documenting your grow(s) will be a handy reference for you as you move along, and it will keep you from making the same mistake twice. Best of luck to you .... I hope everything turns out great!
maineyankee
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I respect (somewhat) about the opening line of your statement concerning "A CareGiver Only Cares About Owning Your Plant Count". I guess Mainers (at least what I see and know). DO NOT fit that "Generalization". I am very blessed to have a CareGiver such as I have, and I can sense by my fellow Mainers here on RollItUp that ARE CareGivers, they are not concerned at all about the "6 Plant" boost, not the money that is generated between Maine Patients and Their CareGivers. I know right now, today, that if I needed some meds and could not afford it, I would be taken care of. It is that simple. I know that to be fact. I cannot sit here and watch someone from somewhere else, judge us and make such a statement. "We are all in this together, and that is what Mainers Do !" AYUH !!
Happy New Year To All
The MaineYankee
dbkick
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ok then, if you insist but more than likely your caregiver used to be nothing more than a pot dealer before it was legitimized in the name of mmj. And that "need for meds without having any money " used to be called a front. Think what you want, people are in it for the money and that's about it, watch yourself if you're growing and have a caregiver assigned, here in colorado plant count is collective .I respect (somewhat) about the opening line of your statement concerning "A CareGiver Only Cares About Owning Your Plant Count". I guess Mainers (at least what I see and know). DO NOT fit that "Generalization". I am very blessed to have a CareGiver such as I have, and I can sense by my fellow Mainers here on RollItUp that ARE CareGivers, they are not concerned at all about the "6 Plant" boost, not the money that is generated between Maine Patients and Their CareGivers. I know right now, today, that if I needed some meds and could not afford it, I would be taken care of. It is that simple. I know that to be fact. I cannot sit here and watch someone from somewhere else, judge us and make such a statement. "We are all in this together, and that is what Mainers Do !" AYUH !!
Happy New Year To All
The MaineYankee
cerberus
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this has been settled in maine and a patient can split their allotted grow with their caregiver BUT you should still get something in writing, CYA.. :/
as far as, pot dealer to mmj, thats an image that will have to be fought but I don't think you fully understand the history of MMJ in maine, it was legal since 99 and only very recently actually became legal (long story) so we do have a decade+ of "pot dealers" working in the capacity of a caregiver under the radar and although i am no trusting person, the drug dealer image you portray is neither accurate nor positive for our movement..
other than my issue with you comparing honest caregivers with drug dealers and placing the idea that mmj is nothing more than a "front", i do agree with saying be careful. there ARE a lot of people that we need to flush out of our new community..
as far as, pot dealer to mmj, thats an image that will have to be fought but I don't think you fully understand the history of MMJ in maine, it was legal since 99 and only very recently actually became legal (long story) so we do have a decade+ of "pot dealers" working in the capacity of a caregiver under the radar and although i am no trusting person, the drug dealer image you portray is neither accurate nor positive for our movement..
other than my issue with you comparing honest caregivers with drug dealers and placing the idea that mmj is nothing more than a "front", i do agree with saying be careful. there ARE a lot of people that we need to flush out of our new community..
dbkick
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I'm a card holder and a pot smoker of some 3+ decades(had the card for a couple years) and really don't buy into the MMJ part of it, I want it full on legal for any purpose you care to possess it really. My entire life has involved weed so I don't need someone to tell me weed has a medical use or not, frankly I don't care but now I've gotten totally off topic it would seem. Off but not far. Thank you for clearing things up and happy growing.
maineyankee
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I will not use the "Quote aspect" of the above statement DB, for I respect one's opinion. I know the "Story" of my CareGiver, and how "All of The Transactions" on how He and She began their quest in helping out others. She goes under the "Banner" of "Kirsten's Compassion" and I would strongly suggest that you take a look and see how these two people, whom I trust and adore, began "Their CareGiver" status.
Happy New Year to All
Bob
Happy New Year to All
Bob
gladstoned
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Thank God I don't have your fucked up point of view. So what if people sold pot before!!!!! Maybe some of those people CARE MORE because they risked their asses. You are ridiculous and you deal with assholes obviously. I know passionate nice people that have always been around weed and I have met passionate, nice newbies. You keep saying caregivers not care, and most don't care. Fuck You, many care. You are in the wrong circle of people, hope you meet nicer people.
st0wandgrow
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You are painting with an awfully broad brush. I am positive that there are people that fit in to your narrow description of a caregiver. No doubt about it. You can take any aspect of life and you are going to find people that are greedy, and try and play the system. It's true of politicians, businessmen, pastors, etc. There are creeps in every circle. But to suggest that all caregivers are just glorified dealers looking to rip people off is pretty naive. I can only speak for Michigan, and what I've observed .... and here we have a large community of folks that see the many benefits of the plant, and are genuinely in it because they have a passion for it, and they want to help others that can't help themselves. If you take a less pessimistic look at things, you'll probably find the same is true in Colorado.
shotrocker
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I am grateful for the pot dealers who got me herb before anyone ever thought of MMJ. They weren't drug dealers, they were weed connections, without whom, probably next to none of us would have gotten acquainted with this wonderful gift plant. My dealers were never greedy bastards, they were fellow weed lovers taking risks. Just sayin'
hammer6913
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hey bio. how ya doin bud.. where ya been. happy new year lol.. yea just meetin good people in maine.. cant wait to get to maine. never been there before. the wife wants to go ur way next fall for a color tour.. new england and west coast is all the states i need to see all 48..
hopes to all and happy new year. may ur jars be full and mites gone camping..
dbkick
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haha, off your pedestal buddy, have a nice day.
Maine Brookies
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Trollses return to their caveses is you doesn't feeds them.
cerberus
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MB is right here. rule number one with a troll, ignore them, they will starve.
this does get us back into the crux of this thread, peoples motivations and the real trouble it is for both honest caregivers and patients to find adequate partners. As a caregiver i wont work with someone who feels I'm a glorified pot dealer, my assumption is they will just use me as a wholesaler, increasing all of our problems.. and I don't think a real patient would stand for typical dealer shenanigans, price changes, poor or fluctuant quality, not catering to their patients (I do custom grows, as I assume most do).. Its gonna be a dog fight for a few years to get this movement on a real sustainable track and to weed out drug user/dealers, even ones with their appropriate prop..
if your caregiver doesn't seem to care, find a real one.
this does get us back into the crux of this thread, peoples motivations and the real trouble it is for both honest caregivers and patients to find adequate partners. As a caregiver i wont work with someone who feels I'm a glorified pot dealer, my assumption is they will just use me as a wholesaler, increasing all of our problems.. and I don't think a real patient would stand for typical dealer shenanigans, price changes, poor or fluctuant quality, not catering to their patients (I do custom grows, as I assume most do).. Its gonna be a dog fight for a few years to get this movement on a real sustainable track and to weed out drug user/dealers, even ones with their appropriate prop..
if your caregiver doesn't seem to care, find a real one.
SickofPain
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Heya Hammer, I moved to Maine from Michigan 3 yrs ago after a visit out here to see some old high school friends. After 3 days I knew I was home, and moved out lock, stock & barrel 6 weeks later. Never been sorry for the move either. You & your wife will love it here, it is so unbelievably beautiful! (LOL, I just noticed you're from MI too, where are you at in Central MI? I was born in Detroit & lived most of my adult life in the Westland, Garden City area)
Anyways, just wanted to give you my experience with my Maine visit. Happy New Year to you & yours!
Peace!
shotrocker
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In case you're wondering.... I've decided to hold off telling him for the time being. The discovery of this site, with its quick answers to all kinds of problems probably trumps what he would offer. (Being a professional photographer helps me post good pictures.) I figured, why shake the boat now; I'll want his meds for at least several more months. I appreciate all the feedback and opinions presented here though. Thanks.
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