"Connoisseur's Choice ~ Epic Multi Journal from the Seed Freaks"

greengenez said:

If you like potent pineapple express is a solid 8/8.5

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Kaptain Kron said:

I just popped mine not that long ago short sticky fatty indica leaf bitch she stinks already too.

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Okay awesome! That's the stuff I need to hear!

gudkarma said:

little shuckin & jivin

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Awesome pics...yummy... and I love new avi - LOL

were going to tahoe!
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one of two beans from attitude. pick and mix. pretty good eh

The GG fellas are workin the GS into as solid rep to the clone as they can and an IBL is deffo on the cards, they want it perfect before release though so be paitent. It's why they've discontinued the Purple Snowman too as it didn't throw out the GS dom phenos and was by their standards disappointing. The last 3 packs available went to the tude they sold them on to random people who asked about GG gear via email. Keyplay didn't want them goin in an auction for a crazy price and thought that was the best & fairest way to deal with it all.
But more Bx will be goin into production soon, they've just been busy with the new lines and will be filling the high demand for more Grape Stomper as soon as possible. They work on a small scale with only a few plants at a time for seeds to keep the quality as pure as they can get. And have loads of different projects goin on in the GG lab atm too. Rigorous testing goes before release too, so thats why things take time for their restocks and releases to drop .
They're just starting out proper and once they have things built up more, there will be more stock available and it will be more accessable too. GG are in talks atm with new vendors and will be working with the best in the biz too

sweet, thanks for the info skunk.

that shows a lot about those GG dudes...they could have made a shitload of cash by puttin those snowman in auction...stand up guys i say.

cmt1984 said:

sweet, thanks for the info skunk.

that shows a lot about those GG dudes...they could have made a shitload of cash by puttin those snowman in auction...stand up guys i say.

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Thats why I offered to help them with modding their forum mate. They are quality people and are out to make a change in this scene imo. And 100% they stand by their gear too, I've been chatting in depth with both Keyplay & M4k since march now and both these guys are stand up in their intentions I can say that much mate. Get yourself over there more and show off some of your work

THESkunkMunkie said:

The GG fellas are workin the GS into as solid rep to the clone as they can and an IBL is deffo on the cards, they want it perfect before release though so be paitent. It's why they've discontinued the Purple Snowman too as it didn't throw out the GS dom phenos and was by their standards disappointing. The last 3 packs available went to the tude they sold them on to random people who asked about GG gear via email. Keyplay didn't want them goin in an auction for a crazy price and thought that was the best & fairest way to deal with it all.
But more Bx will be goin into production soon, they've just been busy with the new lines and will be filling the high demand for more Grape Stomper as soon as possible. They work on a small scale with only a few plants at a time for seeds to keep the quality as pure as they can get. And have loads of different projects goin on in the GG lab atm too. Rigorous testing goes before release too, so thats why things take time for their restocks and releases to drop .
They're just starting out proper and once they have things built up more, there will be more stock available and it will be more accessable too. GG are in talks atm with new vendors and will be working with the best in the biz too

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Thanks skunk, it's good to know they're not just throwing it out there, like some of these mugz I waisted my money on. It's gotten so bad I wont do the pick-n-mix at the tude anymore. Some of these guys a whole pack wont get ya what you're looking for.

Thanks so much for the info munkie! It's unfortunate that other companies don't break it down proper. Pollen chuckin' fools, that's what you see everywhere. Years of careful selection is the only way to stabilize a strain. All f1 and fems is what it seems you can find and of course that's what people want.... lol why there is a demand for the lowest possible denomination of breeding technique is beyond me. Why are there so many phenos per pack?! Look at the parentage, its a long ass love train of f1 crazyness!! Most of which get to f2 and are fucked beyond recognition showing all the phenos in the lineage. I think some do that on purpose really, to protect their crosses.
They do seem to be interesting in helping the medical community and being solid reliable breeders. Good enough for me, looking forward to trying some of their gear soon.

Hey guys, can I ask a "general info" question?

There's a grower here that I buy from occasionally (at least until I get my first real harvest in) and I've noticed the last few things I've gotten from him contain tiny little "preseeds" almost uniformly throughout. I know that he occasionally does seed runs, but he usually does those out in a separate building so I don't think there's a cross pollination problem. I'm just curious if something else would case these little seeds to be throughout the bud and what the effect is.

My first thought (aside from a rogue male or hermie) was that maybe if left too long before harvest? Will a plant just "go to seed?" I'm just curious and y'all are the smartest bunch I know regarding seeds and seed creation so I thought I'd check here.

Bluejeans said:

Hey guys, can I ask a "general info" question?

There's a grower here that I buy from occasionally (at least until I get my first real harvest in) and I've noticed the last few things I've gotten from him contain tiny little "preseeds" almost uniformly throughout. I know that he occasionally does seed runs, but he usually does those out in a separate building so I don't think there's a cross pollination problem. I'm just curious if something else would case these little seeds to be throughout the bud and what the effect is.

My first thought (aside from a rogue male or hermie) was that maybe if left too long before harvest? Will a plant just "go to seed?" I'm just curious and y'all are the smartest bunch I know regarding seeds and seed creation so I thought I'd check here.

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Yeah that's a very good question. I just had that happen to my prize Querkle pheno n had to let her go bye bye cuz i don't keep mothers (i don't have the room), i just take clones as i put em in to flower. I've been growing her for well over a year now, about 6 or 7 runs anyway. She's always been really stable n i never saw any bannas or pollan sacks but she had little premature seeds uniformly forming in all the tops of the main buds.

Hmmm...okay, then...just age maybe? I dunno, I was just curious. His weed is good and I respect his grow, just never seen those so completely before. I've found one or two, but never dozens. Didn't stop me from smoking it and getting blazed.

Thanks for the answer.

Two causes I have seen are 1. as you mentioned they will in fact "go to seed" late in the season with pre-seed anticipating pollination it happens I have seen it and it is a degenerative trait (field hemp). The second is that an accident occurs where you have pollen on your clothes in quantity and forget to change between rooms. Total saturation of pollen to the flower will cause the seed to develop very, very slowly sometimes the the mother doesn't have the resources to grow out all the seed that has been established so you have this fully pollinated flower that can't develop the vast quantity of seed before maturation. The first is breeder err for not thoroughly testing the progeny of fathers, the second is grower error for trying to be a breeder hahahahahhah
It is not cool what corners are cut in the breeding process. It's worse than muddling the genetic pool, it's using degenerative fathers that past f1 express the entire gene pool making selection 100 times more important but who has room to do a 2 sigma selection for desired traits!? Statistically you shouldn't select from a population less than 120 individuals for these parents. Those who can still don't, so it is entirely probable that these sorts of regressions are occurring..... just saying!

I'm thinking that, given your answer, he perhaps allowed the plant to go too long. I noticed a couple in his grow room the last time I was in there that looked to me like they should have been harvested a week or so before. He has talked about doing some breeding, but I think he's too smart a grower to be so careless as to visit the males out in the storage shed and then come into the grow room in the house. He does an occasional personal seed run so I guess mistakes can happen.

I have seen one or two small little white seedlets before, but in a single bud of this recent stuff from him, I found closer to 30...and they seemed to be throughout the entire bag so I think it is bad genetics combined with #1 above. Unless I'm mistaken though, he's growing from seeds he purchased rather than from those he made himself. This was White Widow but I have no idea from where.

Since I started growing for myself, he is only a stop-gap until I get my own harvest in and the next one going. He sells me eights of dank for $30. Around here most everybody else wants $50-$60.

I hear what you're saying about the dying art of true selective breeding. I see people all the time saying "I'm gonna cross this with that"... and then they think they are breeders.

Thanks again for the response...it all goes into the Bluejeans knowledge base in my head...LOL

It's easier than you think, the pollen can survive many days. Scenario, you wear a smock in your garden and it has been days in between. A stoner is, as a stoner does! lol
Don't be so sure those whom are supposed to be "professional" are not different than the pollen chuckers anywhere, the corners are cut for a reason. Just saying, it surprises me when I hear some of the "professionals" techniques. It's no wonder strains turn out like they do. Degenerating to field hemp is all because of the male selection, leave it to the fellas to spoil all the fun! hahahhah
At the end of the day shit happens, sounds like he is cool anyway and as always a friend with weed is a friend indeed.
Your nice to talk to, I am not trying to prove anything just friendly knowledge. A lot of folks around here just a drippin' with piss and vinegar lol

"Double Barrel OG" - @ Day #99 (total).


^^ Duo shot ~ "P#4" (front) & "P#1" (back)

Nutes/levels for flower:
Week#6 ~ Coco A+B, C.Boost, PK13/14, Mono "Cal", C'zym ~ E.C-1.8, ph-5.8/6.1
Week#7 ~ Coco A+B, C.Boost, Mono "Cal" & "Mag", C'zym ~ E.C-1.6, ph-5.8/6.1
Week#8 ~ "Plain water" ~ ph - 5.8/6.0

"P#1" is in flush and nearing harvest now and "P#4" is coming soon after, all in all I'm more than happy with both of these.











^^ "P#1" ~ @ Flower Day #53









^^ "P#4" ~ @ Flower Day #46

"FireStarter" - @ Day #99 (total)












^^ "P#1" @ Flower Day #49

Firestarter are on the same feeds as the DB-OG's...
Thanx for looking, I'll have more up very soon!!

colocowboy said:

It's easier than you think, the pollen can survive many days. Scenario, you wear a smock in your garden and it has been days in between. A stoner is, as a stoner does! lol
Don't be so sure those whom are supposed to be "professional" are not different than the pollen chuckers anywhere, the corners are cut for a reason. Just saying, it surprises me when I hear some of the "professionals" techniques. It's no wonder strains turn out like they do. Degenerating to field hemp is all because of the male selection, leave it to the fellas to spoil all the fun! hahahhah
At the end of the day shit happens, sounds like he is cool anyway and as always a friend with weed is a friend indeed.
Your nice to talk to, I am not trying to prove anything just friendly knowledge. A lot of folks around here just a drippin' with piss and vinegar lol

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No need to apologize. I believe I read this in the vein that it is intended. Nah, the guy is no pro and he doesn't sell seeds, he just makes them for his own use so he can keep growing. I respect that... But, since he's not a pro, he has obviously made mistakes and I was just wondering what the possible scenarios might be to cause the pre-seeds to appear.

As a new grower myself, I like to take the time to learn from others. At 3-4 months per crop, I ain't gonna live long enough to make all the mistakes myself. I sort of have to start off somewhere in the middle just to be good at it before I die (I'm an old lady, ya know! LOL). But being of the pre-computer generation, I did learn to learn by reading and watching others. When I don't see the answer I need, I have learned where to go ask. I'm trying really hard to make sure that wisdom comes with age and not have age tromping all over me by itself.

And like you said, as always, a friend with weed is a friend indeed. This guy delivers, fronts me a little when I ask (I don't ask unless I KNOW I can pay very soon), and is an all around straight up guy...but he's small time, grows for his own use (+ 2 patients) and sells what he doesn't need.

Thanks for the response... I learned a little more today

HOllY CRApOllA! Fire starter indeed!
Fantastic Bud Porn munkie! hardcore!

smokey clear some mailbox space

"Double Barrel OG" - @ Day #106 (total).
"P#1" ~ taken @ Flower Day #60
Harvest Porn!!, Enjoy...
















Thanx for looking, I'll have more soon

Damn son. I just looked back through your sun maiden grow. Now this. Keep it up and I'm buying a plane ticket and coming over!! And I just might not leave

OMG that looks dank bro.... I wish i could rep ya again