I wonder if I can hand feed the microbe rich stuff like the worm tea and inoculants? Then run a weekly h202 cycle in to keep biofilm at bay. With a drain to waste system I would imagine that there is less of a risk of algal growth or other film. Especially if my chambers are light-proof and chilled. But again, only theory makes me weary.
Yes, spray systems makes them but the ARE NOT cheap. slap an extra 100 dollars per nozzle for a manual needle built into the nozzle. It is a glorified bobby pin fit to the interior diameter of the nozzle orifice. Seems worth it but even the rep said it could be done without it built in.
We're all still testing various AA nozzles and none have come out as the end all be all that I know of, however- most are fairly adjustable and can be made to support a large range of conditions... It's likely that the best way is to use the pressure fed nozzles, however the simplicity of siphon fed has me wanting to play around with it...
Thanks for your inputs and sharing your experiences. I kind of assumed the same and am fine running sterile myself. That being said, perhaps someone will come up with a good blend of innoculents that won't have these issues, but I'm just fine with my sterile environment because it's so many less variables...
Yes, they did use the cleaning needle- many of the companies making aa nozzles have the option for that in their nozzle bodies. Since I am running sterile, I don't see te need for the extra cost and parts that could fail- not to mention I suspect the nozzle uses more air for actuating the needle which will cost more down the line too...
Haha- great analogyYes, spray systems makes them but the ARE NOT cheap. slap an extra 100 dollars per nozzle for a manual needle built into the nozzle. It is a glorified bobby pin fit to the interior diameter of the nozzle orifice. Seems worth it but even the rep said it could be done without it built in.
And for the h202 I would shield the roots from the spray, just want to get the lines, pump and nozzles cleared. In my dreams I have a static mixer for ultrasonic cavitation so the nutes are much more bioavailable. Though that means it would rupture the cell walls of the microbes, making it pointless. Has to be a middle way. What about the tea's being fed via handwatering.
I'll try it and journal results. Thats when I get my system together...Hydraulic atomizer nozzles are almost 100 dollars less than the air-atomizers... my head has been in a cruel game of red rover with money and reality on one side and the right way to do things on the other.
... DO you have any links to reputable scientific papers in regards to ultrasonic cavitation making nutes more bio-available?
The Atomix used nickel plated brass, as are the ones I just bought. I don't wanna spend big bucks until I know they even work well... It's not much an issue as the time for contact is not so much as it just gets sprayed and is not recycled in DTW...
Are you sure u need 12 nozzles? I am pretty sure 1 or 2 max will fill virtually any sized chamber given longer spraying times- these things can output HUGE plumes of mist... Recommend buying the parts for a single test chamber first, and them making sure it all works well before buying your whole room setup...
That article is filled with misinfo IMO. He is obviously not running true HPA- or he would have fried his plants after 1000 ppm surely... Plus we use DTW, much better again IMO...
Welcome back! Ha this must be what Narnia feels like when Aslan returns...That article is filled with misinfo IMO. He is obviously not running true HPA- or he would have fried his plants after 1000 ppm surely... Plus we use DTW, much better again IMO...
I have been real busy in personal life, but I can report things are doing very well and my life is much better lately- I really should get this chamber going in the near future after finishing setting up my rental unit- I had some horrible tenants causing me grief the last few months... Thanks for everyone's patience...
So this is just a theory, and could have direct correlation with the joint in my mouth, but my guess for the biofilm is that it could be avoided with different materials. Any inert material that does not allow for cationic adhesion would prevent biofilm growth. Cell membranes "stick" to materials via cationic exchange, so with SS or HDPE you would be good. Now, I don't know what options for materials for air/liquid lines are...
I am a patent junkie, I'll dig it up. I got it from Originoil, they also use it to rupture the cell walls of algal cells to harvest the lipids for biofuel and pharmaceuticals. It's proprietary, at least under that name but cavitation has been around for a while. I'll post the link in a bit...Haha- great analogy
lol... The credit goes to tree farmer and Atomizer... Pretty much taught me everything I know on the subject, and they are definitely the mentors here... I just happened to be seeking the best way to do this stuff, and consistently they seem to have the answers I was looking for... I didn't see a real need to use the cleanout needle, but perhaps if you are going to attempt the organic route it will be of some help to you...