Cultiuana CT-660w & a 1 plant scrog

Day 74 & she’s still pushing. She’s been gaining some weight as a few colas in the back took a dip into the netting. I fixed them back up with plant ties.



I’ve been keeping watch down below for any of the dying leaves that may be getting close to the buds. So far it’s only the leaves with visible stems connecting to the branches below the buds. Sure she looks rough, but I believe I have enough green vegetation to get her through to the finish. If the lowest bids get consumed by death then so be it. I’m only interested in what’s up top.
I’ve gone all around the bottom of the plant to remove all the earth that lingers with gloves & curve tipped sheers with a fine point.

HydroKid239 said:

Day 74 & she’s still pushing. She’s been gaining some weight as a few colas in the back took a dip into the netting. I fixed them back up with plant ties.
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I’ve been keeping watch down below for any of the dying leaves that may be getting close to the buds. So far it’s only the leaves with visible stems connecting to the branches below the buds. Sure she looks rough, but I believe I have enough green vegetation to get her through to the finish. If the lowest bids get consumed by death then so be it. I’m only interested in what’s up top. View attachment 5224551View attachment 5224552
I’ve gone all around the bottom of the plant to remove all the earth that lingers with gloves & curve tipped sheers with a fine point.
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Is that's P deficiency?

PadawanWarrior said:

Is that's P deficiency?

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Seems to be a problem I haven’t been getting in front of for the last 2 runs.

HydroKid239 said:

Seems to be a problem I haven’t been getting in front of for the last 2 runs.

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I'm a rookie at diagnosing deficiencies, but my gut says P deficiency or some kinda micronutrient. It might want more N too. Just my 1 cent. I can't give myself 2 cents because I really don't know what I'm talking about.

PadawanWarrior said:

I'm a rookie at diagnosing deficiencies, but my gut says P deficiency or some kinda micronutrient. It might want more N too. Just my 1 cent. I can't give myself 2 cents because I really don't know what I'm talking about.

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I think this girl is lacking some mag, cal, and P + K. A whole cluster fudge of issues, but she’s hanging on. It’s much too late to try to fix anything at this point imo. I’m still feeding her every other watering. Best bet should have been feed, feed, water probably.

Day 79
Thank goodness for weed & patience lol
Her leaves have still been slowly crisping up. I wait til they’re spent & snip them.
I’ve been feeling like I’m pushing them too far. There’s some more foxtailing action going on.
I turned the light down to 40% (264w) and she’s going to finish this next week or 2 under that setting.
I checked the trichomes, and there’s amber all over the place. What I also paid attention to was the brown pistils vs the new ones. There aren’t many new ones under the tops at all. It’s really just the foxtails moving lately. No notice of any more weight gain in roughly 2 weeks.

I’m going to let her dry out from this last feed, and then finish her through the next week with fish shit with a little extra run off each time.
I just wanna get the salt buildup out of the root zone before I chop. Next watering I’ll be washing the outside of the pot with plain water. I may also poke a few holes in the bottom.
run off will all be removed with the bucket head vacuum.

HydroKid239 said:

Day 79
Thank goodness for weed & patience lol
Her leaves have still been slowly crisping up. I wait til they’re spent & snip them.
I’ve been feeling like I’m pushing them too far. There’s some more foxtailing action going on.
I turned the light down to 40% (264w) and she’s going to finish this next week or 2 under that setting.
I checked the trichomes, and there’s amber all over the place. What I also paid attention to was the brown pistils vs the new ones. There aren’t many new ones under the tops at all. It’s really just the foxtails moving lately. No notice of any more weight gain in roughly 2 weeks.
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I’m going to let her dry out from this last feed, and then finish her through the next week with fish shit with a little extra run off each time.
I just wanna get the salt buildup out of the root zone before I chop. Next watering I’ll be washing the outside of the pot with plain water. I may also poke a few holes in the bottom.
run off will all be removed with the bucket head vacuum.

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Nanners in last pic...not sure if you saw them.

inth3shadowz said:

Nanners in last pic...not sure if you saw them.

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Yea. I caught that & plucked it. It’s like it was waving a flag at me.

Day 83 for this girl.
I’ve checked trichomes 5 days ago. They looked good to me at that point. I believe this Cultivar likes less light than others. I turned the light down to 40%, and I’ve seen less of the fox tails popping out, and more maturity as I look at the trichomes, and pistils. She will be coming down tomorrow. This is the longest I’ve gone in flower. 12 weeks but she called for it. I’m sure it can go longer, but I’m not into turning the majority of the plant’s trich’s amber.


I gotta say this light definitely delivered. The colas are all solid as I could ask for. Heavier, and more dense than anything else I’ve grown so far. Of course the genetics play their role, but there’s no denying the potential it has. I’m going to take a guess at about 10-11oz. Dry weight, but won’t be shocked with 8-10. She’s heavy as hell though, so we’ll see. I’ll update all the final results once everything is ready.

HydroKid239 said:

Day 83 for this girl.
I’ve checked trichomes 5 days ago. They looked good to me at that point. I believe this Cultivar likes less light than others. I turned the light down to 40%, and I’ve seen less of the fox tails popping out, and more maturity as I look at the trichomes, and pistils. She will be coming down tomorrow. This is the longest I’ve gone in flower. 12 weeks but she called for it. I’m sure it can go longer, but I’m not into turning the majority of the plant’s trich’s amber.
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I gotta say this light definitely delivered. The colas are all solid as I could ask for. Heavier, and more dense than anything else I’ve grown so far. Of course the genetics play their role, but there’s no denying the potential it has. I’m going to take a guess at about 10-11oz. Dry weight, but won’t be shocked with 8-10. She’s heavy as hell though, so we’ll see. I’ll update all the final results once everything is ready.

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Still not ready...

inth3shadowz said:

Still not ready...

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I totally get that as I stated above, but from what I've been able to check out, the tops are littered with amber heads on the calyces. Along with some fibers, hairs, some dust maybe.. but a bud wash will handle that. The buds below the tops are more mature looking.
Anyhow.. from what I gather, chop time seems to be all on personal preference. If this bud turns out to be sub par I'm ok with that. I'm going to run it again. Just not any time soon. Maybe when I'm ready to chuck some pollen from an upcoming sunken treasure run.
I won't be basing whether I keep the cut off of this harvests effects. As far as harvesting some heavier weight than I'm used to.. I'll give her another go & take her all the way. I just wanna finish her asap.
I'll give her a few more days for the heck of it, but by Wed. or Thursday she's getting a haircut & bath after she meets the bolt cutters.
I appreciate you throwing your 2cents in. I always welcome feedback & that kind of constructive criticism that keeps one positive, and on the right track.
Letting me know she's not ready is in no way wrong advice. She can probably go 2-3 weeks. I just doubt she's getting any heavier. Not substantially anyways. I have the light running at 40% which is about 264w. She seems to like it better. As I said there has been forward progress in the last week after lowering the light from about 528w (80%) to half that. So with that in mind I'll keep her up for a few more days. If I see progress I will give her the week.

I do have something I can definitely use your opinion on..
I am currently running temps at 71-72F / RH 35-40% (Daytime) 64-67F / RH 30% (Lights off) since she's so thick (MAN she's heavy) I'm afraid of developing mold. Extraction is on at 50% with lights off, 75% with lights on, and 3 fans moving air inside.
I'm feeding GH maxibloom at about 625-650ppm every other watering usually. Sometimes I feed back to back to keep her from completely yellowing. (You see how that's working) On the side she gets AN calmag xtra, FF Microbrew, FF boosters used, but not much of it, and not in the past month.
I'm still willing to feed her at this point. I'm not going to give her a water only diet at the end. I'm going to feed til the end, and do a flush on the last time I give her water. I have Athena cleanse that I was thinking of using before my last watering to break everything up so it can be washed away on the last watering.

Should I do that?
Keep feeding, or feed more to keep the leaves near my buds green?
Opinion on using Cleanse? (Not sure if I should be adding that sooner)

HydroKid239 said:

I totally get that as I stated above, but from what I've been able to check out, the tops are littered with amber heads on the calyces. Along with some fibers, hairs, some dust maybe.. but a bud wash will handle that. The buds below the tops are more mature looking.
Anyhow.. from what I gather, chop time seems to be all on personal preference. If this bud turns out to be sub par I'm ok with that. I'm going to run it again. Just not any time soon. Maybe when I'm ready to chuck some pollen from an upcoming sunken treasure run.
I won't be basing whether I keep the cut off of this harvests effects. As far as harvesting some heavier weight than I'm used to.. I'll give her another go & take her all the way. I just wanna finish her asap.
I'll give her a few more days for the heck of it, but by Wed. or Thursday she's getting a haircut & bath after she meets the bolt cutters.
I appreciate you throwing your 2cents in. I always welcome feedback & that kind of constructive criticism that keeps one positive, and on the right track.
Letting me know she's not ready is in no way wrong advice. She can probably go 2-3 weeks. I just doubt she's getting any heavier. Not substantially anyways. I have the light running at 40% which is about 264w. She seems to like it better. As I said there has been forward progress in the last week after lowering the light from about 528w (80%) to half that. So with that in mind I'll keep her up for a few more days. If I see progress I will give her the week.

I do have something I can definitely use your opinion on..
I am currently running temps at 71-72F / RH 35-40% (Daytime) 64-67F / RH 30% (Lights off) since she's so thick (MAN she's heavy) I'm afraid of developing mold. Extraction is on at 50% with lights off, 75% with lights on, and 3 fans moving air inside.
I'm feeding GH maxibloom at about 625-650ppm every other watering usually. Sometimes I feed back to back to keep her from completely yellowing. (You see how that's working) On the side she gets AN calmag xtra, FF Microbrew, FF boosters used, but not much of it, and not in the past month.
I'm still willing to feed her at this point. I'm not going to give her a water only diet at the end. I'm going to feed til the end, and do a flush on the last time I give her water. I have Athena cleanse that I was thinking of using before my last watering to break everything up so it can be washed away on the last watering.

Should I do that?
Keep feeding, or feed more to keep the leaves near my buds green?
Opinion on using Cleanse? (Not sure if I should be adding that sooner)

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I have an unpopular opinion that you should use veg nutrients to the end. What it does for me is keeps the sugar leaves and fan leaves completely green until they're done. The trick is to keep it at a low EC like 1.2-1.3. Everyone on here will jump on me about how the nitrogen in veg nutes during flower causes this and that, yet all their plants struggle to finish at the end and fade to hell when using bloom nutrients. I wonder why that is? Maybe the high P? That's my theory...give it a shot on a plant and report back sometime. You'll be shocked lol

inth3shadowz said:

I have an unpopular opinion that you should use veg nutrients to the end. What it does for me is keeps the sugar leaves and fan leaves completely green until they're done. The trick is to keep it at a low EC like 1.2-1.3. Everyone on here will jump on me about how the nitrogen in veg nutes during flower causes this and that, yet all their plants struggle to finish at the end and fade to hell when using bloom nutrients. I wonder why that is? Maybe the high P? That's my theory...give it a shot on a plant and report back sometime. You'll be shocked lol

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This girl won’t be alive long enough to see any changes. None of that green will return this round. There has been a change in the look of the pistils since just yesterday.
I just watered. Going to see how she’s looking by the time she dries back. Usually in 2-3 days.

The buds look great mate, nice and chunky.

Star Dog said:

The buds look great mate, nice and chunky.

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Thanks. They’re heavier than any other I’ve grown. Excited to see the outcome after dried.
I clipped her trunk this morning. I have her hanging in the net til I return to it. I may leave it suspended in the air. Unsure if there’s really any difference. There’s more space for the buds to get air all around as it sits. I’ll update with pics as soon as I can get to it.

HydroKid239 said:

Thanks. They’re heavier than any other I’ve grown. Excited to see the outcome after dried.
I clipped her trunk this morning. I have her hanging in the net til I return to it. I may leave it suspended in the air. Unsure if there’s really any difference. There’s more space for the buds to get air all around as it sits. I’ll update with pics as soon as I can get to it.

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I'll look forward to that mate.

Cheers

Update: Chopped 11/27 (Day 89)
I merely clipped her at the trunk & let her lay there on top of the pot & in the trellis. I plan on leaving her as is to dry. The colas are all spaced out enough for air to pass, so I see no need. I’ve checked out previous post about letting it hang as is, and it doesn’t seem to complicate things at all. A fan will run under & above.

I’ll be setting my RH around 55-60% for the first week, and then 50% for the remainder of time it takes. I can imagine it’s going to be at least 14 days.

I’m back with an update. The banana Kush dried for 9 days before I decided to pull a small branch to buck & jar with a hygrometer. After 24hrs the RH was at 58%. So I proceeded to chop the rest of her. Stems did not snap. Almost there, but not quite. Given the feel of the bud, I’m comfortable jarring.
Total dried weight is 379g. Considering I was only able to run the light from @Cultiuana at 60% it’s not such a bad haul. .94gpw
It’s been a pleasure to run this light. It’s definitely a force to be reckoned with in the 4x4 considering my level of experience.
A few others are running these lights as well & seem to have done quite an exceptional job.
If I were to rate the light, I would have to give it a 4 out of 5. I’d definitely recommend it to someone with a good knowledge of growing with high powered led.
The Cons for me: The driver is built into the rails which brings some decent heat into the tent. Which requires more fans on the rails to keep cool. A removable driver would help with that greatly. I ran AC at 64F in the room, and wasn’t able to manage heat running at 80-100%. It hit 89F at once point, so running at 100% didn’t work for me, 60% /396w was just fine. I could have probably salvaged a lot of my leaves if I had not blasted them so much. We live & learn.
Time to clean up & reset for the next round.
Here’s some pics.

I know it’s been a while since I’ve posted in this thread, but I have given a clone from this plant another run. This time I went with 2x the soil.
1x 10 gallon AC infinity pot
Happy Frog soil, and dr earth flower girl.
3/4 cup mixed into the top few inches of soil every 14 days since the flip.
Currently on Week 4 day 5 of flower.

I still haven't decided if I'm going to use the Cultiuanna or the Spider Farmer light for my next run. I think I'd like to give the Cultiuanna a better shot without torching the tops of everything. It seems to have a better spread than the board design from Spider Farmer but I'd love to compare Spider Farmer's bar design down the road. Hope you have a great run with it.