DMT; breakthrough? or not to breakthrough?

I'm interested to hear peoples opinions on trying to define the differences?

I know words can't explain it, but who says you can't try

Ive done it roughly 15 times and anywhere from 20mg to 80mg and have yet to breakthrough. The last time i visited the space I was being fed info that my next time would be the one

I know the various techniques make a bit of difference so my preferred way to do it consists of caapi, mint, and deems. The more caapi the better IMO. I fly using a chillum glass pipe layered with caapi, then deem, then caapi/mint.

Any info on this matter would be not only great info but great for other like myself that have a hard time reaching the very ends of the universe.

Happy traveling!

Who needs NASA when we have psychedelics right?

Can breakthrough on 40mg provided your product is pure and you use a decent delivery method

Get a vape

and how do you know when you breakthrough? ... well you will be there and not here lol

Mookjong - I like your train of thought

Zvice - I need to change my method. I need a glass vapor genie. As I do feel I've gotten further on less than 80mg. My stuff is almost white with a touch of yellow hues. I have had better though.

I have been told when you breakthrough you will know for sure. As open or closed eyed are the same.

I'm looking forward to it that's for sure.

Thanks guys.

HIGHperSpace420 said:

I'm interested to hear peoples opinions on trying to define the differences?

I know words can't explain it, but who says you can't try

Ive done it roughly 15 times and anywhere from 20mg to 80mg and have yet to breakthrough. The last time i visited the space I was being fed info that my next time would be the one

I know the various techniques make a bit of difference so my preferred way to do it consists of caapi, mint, and deems. The more caapi the better IMO. I fly using a chillum glass pipe layered with caapi, then deem, then caapi/mint.

Any info on this matter would be not only great info but great for other like myself that have a hard time reaching the very ends of the universe.

Happy traveling!

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15 dosages up to 80mg and you still havent broke thru??? i would say your DMT is bunk or your not smoking it right. 80mg shoulda did the trick, are you holding in the first hit as long as you can? and are you taking the second and third hit even tho it may look gone? on a positive note when you do make it thru 20mg should be able to take you back after the first break thru. once you open the door its easier to get thru. if you are smoking it right and still not going where you want to, try 160mg! you can deffinately do much more than that too, but man its intense. ive personally done somewhere around 450mg(8x60mg).. cant say ill do it again but wow was it life changing, the feeling you get when you realize everything you thought you knew was completely wrong, and you discover a small sample of how mysterious this life really is.. all i can say is i hope your ready to have your mind bent lol

For the ones that have broken thru.....everyone decribes the same" beings" being there.....this tru?

I can't seem to find the thread, but ANC shared his method and my friends and I have been using it ever since.

Get a glass steam roller like this and fill the bowl with chore boy (the stuff crackheads use).
http://www.gogopipes.com/Glass_SteamRoller_Clear_Glass_Steam_Roller.html

I tried just about everything. I thought an oil burner (meth pipe) would work, which it did, but not nearly as well as the glass steamroller with the chore boy. I'm sure those vapor genies or the glass vapor genies work great, but for $60+ a piece they can keep them when a $10 "crack pipe" does the job.

I feel like a breakthrough takes a few heavy hits, enough to burn the lungs almost. and by a breakthrough i mean a total seperation from regular reality, like not just the room looking crazy but not being in the room anymore, eyed open/eyes closed etc.

I smoked a little last night and didn't break through, but felt a strange vibration through my body and head and everything got very alien looking, my guitars looked like some kind of space instruments

Eyes closed is the way to go. You have to lay back, close your eyes, and let yourself go.

My friend took a pea sized rock,took three heavy tokes,standing up,thick tokes..like, you haven't smoke pot in a while kinda tokes,rocked back and forth a little and fell down,crawled over to me and layed his head in my lap..a min later,I was like 'who farted?'..he had shit himself...he said later he seen his sister and my dead roomate doing 360s in my roomates car in the front yard,and some othe crazy shit he swears happend..all the while staring at my left knee...I personaly haven't had that kind of experience,but hopefully will..without the incontinence..

rory420420 said:

My friend took a pea sized rock,took three heavy tokes,standing up,thick tokes..like, you haven't smoke pot in a while kinda tokes,rocked back and forth a little and fell down,crawled over to me and layed his head in my lap..a min later,I was like 'who farted?'..he had shit himself...he said later he seen his sister and my dead roomate doing 360s in my roomates car in the front yard,and some othe crazy shit he swears happend..all the while staring at my left knee...I personaly haven't had that kind of experience,but hopefully will..without the incontinence..

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eyes closed for me too but i sit upright in a chair or on a couch. laying down seems to bring on the feeling of death more often than sitting up for me. not that its a bad thing but that sure is a weird thought if your not ready for it! ha. once you break thru you can do smaller does and get there. i use my eclipse vaporizer now and its insane how much faster it hits you, if you can get all three hits before you get too weird its gonna be a great ride.

thatboyis1uvakind said:

For the ones that have broken thru.....everyone decribes the same" beings" being there.....this tru?

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ive heard of all kinds of "beings" being described. my buddy had a really religious trip the first time, then started talking about spirit guides and cosmic royalty etc. my trips have been more T. Mckenna style with polymorphic beings confusing the shit out of me. or just really weird really odd dimensional shifts.. thats the interesting thing about DMT to me, there are no constants, it seems to show you what you need to see or experience.

zVice said:

Can breakthrough on 40mg provided your product is pure and you use a decent delivery method

Get a vape

and how do you know when you breakthrough? ... well you will be there and not here lol

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exactly! vape all the way. that first blastoff is like losing your virginity lol.. that feeling of oh my god where did i go? what just happened? haha i love it!

how do you build up the balls for the next breakthrough?
my last (and first) breakthrough was quite profound to say the least.

used the volcano, holeee sheeeit
the taste of the vapour was disgusting, burnt rubber, it made my lips tingle
then my arms, then my entire body, then I was "gone"
blast off, I remember distinctly being "there" and not "here" and "returning" that bit made me a bit sad.
colours patterns, intensity
it was quite overwhelming, but held it together... just.

mushead said:

exactly! vape all the way. that first blastoff is like losing your virginity lol.. that feeling of oh my god where did i go? what just happened? haha i love it!

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HIGHperSpace420 said:

I'm interested to hear peoples opinions on trying to define the differences?

I know words can't explain it, but who says you can't try

Ive done it roughly 15 times and anywhere from 20mg to 80mg and have yet to breakthrough. The last time i visited the space I was being fed info that my next time would be the one

I know the various techniques make a bit of difference so my preferred way to do it consists of caapi, mint, and deems. The more caapi the better IMO. I fly using a chillum glass pipe layered with caapi, then deem, then caapi/mint.

Any info on this matter would be not only great info but great for other like myself that have a hard time reaching the very ends of the universe.

Happy traveling!

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Very simple. If your thoughts can become words during the voyage then no breakthrough. If you do not think words but rather feel and really "think" then it's a breakthrough.

Try making a harmala roux and ingest the roux. Then approximately 20-30 minutes later ingest 200mg Demetri. Breakthrough assured

DMT breakthrough is when your trip is so real it dosen't matter whether your eyes or opened or not. It is your reality.
I broke through on at least 3 times. One with a pipe with about 60mg on it, other 2 where with a friends meth pipe around the 40mg mark. For me anything more then 80mg is a waste of DMT.

mushead said:

eyes closed for me too but i sit upright in a chair or on a couch. laying down seems to bring on the feeling of death more often than sitting up for me. not that its a bad thing but that sure is a weird thought if your not ready for it! ha. once you break thru you can do smaller does and get there. i use my eclipse vaporizer now and its insane how much faster it hits you, if you can get all three hits before you get too weird its gonna be a great ride.

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Eyes closed with the eclipse and a nice torch, we can usually vape it all and hold the hit in in one go, about 50mg one hitter quitter for blast-off.

Personally I like demetrius on the initial, blast-off, and break-through levels. Each has its time and place. Couple tokes from a chillum at a Shpongle show, fuck yes.
Who's ready for Waka?

What's a break through when I smoked DMT the whole room started shaking and couldn't move forgot how to breathe for a second lol but breakthrough maybe I haven't went. That far seeing I have no idea were to find it anymore I might not get too