Do you count flowering from 12/12 switch or when you see pistil hairs?

Northwood

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I started with fluorescent tubes.
That's how I started growing in the mid-1970s with those 4' fluorescent tubes. They started to sell like "burple tubes" pretty early as grow tubes. More like kinda pink if I remember? It all started in my basement bedroom closet when I was 16!

Sadly I was eventually busted by my parents, which switched me to gorilla growing pretty quickly, especially after I got my driver's license. lol
 

doublejj

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Nieghbors help neighbors with trimmers..I know I had a little tent city going on and when I needed more trimmers I only had to make a call.
Covid added another twist this year. But because I also have a home in Sacramento and I'm old, I vacated my place on the farm for the trimmers. I have a hella good crew that took over. Many of the trimmers stayed busy trimming for my neighbors between our pulls from the greenhouses and outdoor. My farm was ground zero for trimmers this year. The good thing was I always good first priority. So my stuff always got trimmed first. I had an extra porta-potty brought in because I have a small septic system on the farm. we are off grid...
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50 outdoor avg 5.5....you can see the greenhouses below thru the 'trees'..
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Mmcary82

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Considering I wouldn't trim for anything under $100/hr, I hope you pay these poor souls at least a living wage of $15/hour at minimum.
I don’t pay a hourly wage I pay per unit (pound). If I paid a hourly wage nothing would get done..it’s 150/unit if they bucks their bin 120/unit if they pick a bin that’s been bucked..
 

Northwood

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I paid $150/unit if they bucked their bin..$120/unit if they were working with a bin that had been bucked..my best trimmers did 3, even 4 units per day strain dependent..so yeah they made bank..$450-$600 for a days works (18hours)
That's what healthy capitalism is all about. These are the people that actually buy shit and stimulate your local economy rather than park it off shore in tax-sheltered investments that a wealthy person would do, instead of circulating it back into the economy. Not to insult Reagan of course with "trickle downs"... errr hemm.
 

Northwood

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I don’t pay a hourly wage I pay per unit (pound). If I paid a hourly wage nothing would get done..it’s 150/unit if they bucks their bin 120/unit if they pick a bin that’s been bucked..
I don't have an issue with that. lol

Edit: Except a freaking pound properly trimmed would take me like an entire day to do! LMAO! Perhaps I'm not the fastest trimmer. It's never been a consideration in my career plans however.
 
when you start the 12/12/ is when you start counting. But harvesting "early" is entirely up to the grower. Use the count to know when your about ready then Use a pocket microscope and check the trichromes to see if your actually ready for harvest. Good luck. you can get one at radioshack for around $12
I just wanted to reply to this to bump the Radio Shack mention. RIP
 

Mmcary82

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I don't have an issue with that. lol

Edit: Except a freaking pound properly trimmed would take me like an entire day to do! LMAO! Perhaps I'm not the fastest trimmer. It's never been a consideration in my career plans however.
Nobody usually does but the guy that takes 8 hours to trim a 1/4 pound and then doesn’t show up after the 3rd day..for most people if you trim 5 pounds you will become pretty efficient..
 

Mmcary82

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I just wanted to reply to this to bump the Radio Shack mention. RIP
When you harvest is up to you..even the state of the trichomes is somewhat preference (percent of milky vs amber)..what I say is unless you have bud rot or some other issue, when you think your ready to harvest, your probably safe to go another week..going another week will most likely bulkem up a little more and *maybe* even be a little more potent.
 

Northwood

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Nobody usually does but the guy that takes 8 hours to trim a 1/4 pound and then doesn’t show up after the 3rd day..for most people if you trim 5 pounds you will become pretty efficient..
I bet. Heck when I did the tobacco thing back in the late 1970s working for a farmer, most newbies didn't make it. I'd say half of them didn't last 3 days depending on the task and stage of growth or harvest. It was sometimes brutal work, and fun at the same time in retrospect in ways I shall not go into here.

I normally grow more than 1 kg of bud a grow cycle with 4 plants, and honestly it takes me an entire week to properly manicure. I have a day job, so it's like at least a few hours every evening and at least 1 full weekend with trimming. I hate it. I have before the covid thing been able to get neighbors to help out though for just weed! lol
 

Mmcary82

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Well in that case when does Veg begin? After clones show decent roots in cubes and are planted.
This is my theory with clones, I take small cuttings because I believe if the root mass is small and there’s too much plant material, the plant will grow slower..but if you take a small cutting and root it, the growth will be faster and I’ve tested this out and I have seen how the little clones take off compared to larger ones with the same root mass..
 

Northwood

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This is my theory with clones, I take small cuttings because I believe if the root mass is small and there’s too much plant material, the plant will grow slower..but if you take a small cutting and root it, the growth will be faster and I’ve tested this out and I have seen how the little clones take off compared to larger ones with the same root mass..
Same with trees too. I've seen here in the suburbs people planting trees with a backhoe, and myself plant a little whip. 6 years later, my whip is larger than their tree which is just hanging onto life.
 

Mmcary82

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Well this old thread from may 29th, 2009 has been officially bumped and blown off subject. Glad I could pay homage to a important subject. And flowering is day one week one after the flip. People will keep score in their own way including me but that doesn’t change day one week one.
 

MICHI-CAN

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Well this old thread from may 29th, 2009 has been officially bumped and blown off subject. Glad I could pay homage to a important subject. And flowering is day one week one after the flip. People will keep score in their own way including me but that doesn’t change day one week one.
Seller specs. But to each his own. If it ain't broke. And a broke clock is right twice a day on this subject.
 

Northwood

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Well this old thread from may 29th, 2009 has been officially bumped and blown off subject. Glad I could pay homage to a important subject. And flowering is day one week one after the flip. People will keep score in their own way including me but that doesn’t change day one week one.
Well this would be terrible. How else are experienced growers going to show off to newbies if we don't post photos of huge swollen ripening colas and say we're only in week 4 of flower? This ruins everything! /s
 
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