Does freewill exist?

Does freewill exist?


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Don't Bogart

Well-Known Member
What would be the definitive test?
Knowing I have/have not free will by whether I do/do not defend/not defend free will.
And does/does not it involve chocolate.
 

Chief_Broom

Well-Known Member
Free will is a mental construct. We are all bound by our humanity to do what people do. Go back an look at anyone’s life and you will see that every decision they made was exactly what a human would do in such circumstances.
 

Dreaming1

Well-Known Member
We want to feel free so we convince ourselves that we could choose anything. But, we only choose the thing we do. There is no proof that we could have chosen otherwise, only the idea that nothing seemed to be stopping us from choosing from the other options. But again, we only make one choice. The other options might as well have been illusionary. Maybe they are...
 

hillbill

Well-Known Member
Free Will can be rendered helpless by indoctrination into a religious or social, political or psychological cult. It can be surrendered and if it can be surrendered, it obviously exists.
 

Dreaming1

Well-Known Member
It might be obvious from your perspective, but I can't see it from over here. I agree that people can be led around. I just think that that's probably what was going to happen with those people. The more I look at it, the more determinism I seem to find.
We have been talking about free will for the last several thousand years. There are only about 3 opinions to have on the subject. Each is valid in the minds of the beholder. The ultimate Truth is yet to be determined.
A dollar also exists. But, it is a token. A more concrete place holder for the idea of money. A game we all play in our minds that affects our physical world. Magick.
I see my life has been magnetically attracted to where/when I am now. There were options, but they were never real contenders for what I would pick. I merely did what was typical for my "type of person." Another type of person could not have lived my life. They would not have been able to choose as I did. And that is good. I have this covered. Anyone needing this can find me. We need the other people to do more of the other stuff that I can't do. All turning the wheel. Think anything, do anything you want. We only have so much time.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Free will is a mental construct. We are all bound by our humanity to do what people do. Go back an look at anyone’s life and you will see that every decision they made was exactly what a human would do in such circumstances.
I do not begin to have enough objective data to test the premise!
 
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