Does it have enough space to flower ?
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kinddiesel
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with cfl it will stretch about a foot or so , and you will need to use bamboo poles and zip tie the branches to it so they don't hang angst the walls. but straight up. and you need to add more lighting. different color. get a 2700k bulbs. those look like 5 or 6k. wrong color temp
kinddiesel
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seriously suggest min of 10 bulbs in that room and vent it out. so you can pull at least a ounce with those small bulbs you wont even get 1/4
wiidnoob
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" bamboo poles and zip tie the branches to it so they don't hang angst the walls. " can you show me this setup and what do you mean because its my first grow and I don't really get you ...
wiidnoob
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Bro ... its just 1 plant ! I have 27 °C sometimes with fan ON, if I add 7 more bulbs I will get 50 °C in there !!!
juliecasea
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bamboo poles stick them in the dirt so the branches can lean on them for support and not the wall. If they get heavy as the buds grow you can get ties or string to hold them up. Wrap the ties or twine around the stems and lift them tie them up...like tack the end of the tie to the roof so they r lifted. If they end up not supporting themselves or lean against any of your walls.
juliecasea
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if it is hot in there you can go to Wal-Mart.get a coolmist humidifier (30 bucks) this should help lower your temps when adding more light.but you def need more light,or you might not be happy once you dry your harvest.you will lose a good 70% water weight off what you see wet.
juliecasea
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prob not with the lights you have.
wiidnoob
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Here we don't have a Wal-Mart and a coolmist humidifier is 3x times more expensive here ... I don't really afford to spend more money on it right now ...
Doer
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It is really pretty simple and you don't want formula...believe me. You want the ideas.
So, this idea is that, the bud tops get heavy and you don't want them leaning against anything, for air circulation and light, mold, etc.
So, prop them up. How you do that is up to you. I would not waste zip ties. I would not tie any plant with something as hard edged as a zip tie. But, the idea, is to support the stalks. You can use fence wire mesh and let it grow thru it. Or you can use a box corrral out of pvc pipe and stretch strings across to form an, as needed grid.
You can use bamboo as slats, don't need the poles. Get a big piece and split it up. You don't need bamboo but it is light and stiff.
And/or, I use blue painters tape and roll up, little soft ropes to support the branches back to the main stalk. Yeah and add a warmer color for bloom. Low color around 2700 K for bloom and then add more watts of a warm color, 6500 K for bloom but keep the 2700s going.
10 bulbs and massive air flow will do you a much more worth while yield. But who is in a hurry? That will yield.
And the more you put on it for the next round the more you can increase the yield, if you can cool it.
Put in some side lights too. They don't all have to be over the top.
Consider this almost impossible Grail Goal. 1 gram per watt. If I can get 1/4 gram a watt, I feel good and something is working.
How many watts there?
cc2012
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can you cut a 4" hole in top of box and use 4" Ducting with a 4" wall plate(Spigot) if you vent it will help your Temps..
check Out Keifs Cabinet Build..its Awesome and I know its Hps/Mh but might give you some ideas
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/739888-diy-micro-stealth-150w-cool.html
I would say you Def want more Bulbs? At least 200-300w(True Watts) and Deffo some 2700k for Flowering..
Sometimes your fan can make Heat issues worse..depending how you have got Setup + the Hot Air needs to go somewhere??
Peace
EDIT: Hope you sort it m8
Great Advice for you from Doer m8
check Out Keifs Cabinet Build..its Awesome and I know its Hps/Mh but might give you some ideas
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/739888-diy-micro-stealth-150w-cool.html
I would say you Def want more Bulbs? At least 200-300w(True Watts) and Deffo some 2700k for Flowering..
Sometimes your fan can make Heat issues worse..depending how you have got Setup + the Hot Air needs to go somewhere??
Peace
EDIT: Hope you sort it m8
Great Advice for you from Doer m8
wiidnoob
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wiidnoob
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Guys, I've updated my post with another box picture. ( detailed )
Please check it out and tell me what you think ...
[ It's on the first page of this post https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/778986-does-have-enough-space-flower.html ]
1. Its a must to change to 2400k ? And remove my 6500k ones ?
2. I wont get more than 50g of bud from this plant ?
Please check it out and tell me what you think ...
[ It's on the first page of this post https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/778986-does-have-enough-space-flower.html ]
1. Its a must to change to 2400k ? And remove my 6500k ones ?
2. I wont get more than 50g of bud from this plant ?
cc2012
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Hiya wiidnoob, if you have space you can leave the 6500k in the Mix, it won't hurt..it is possible to get more than 1oz from one lady on a low amount of Lumens(I got 4oz of 4 Ladies under a Giant 200w CFL on 1st Grow) 50g I'm not so sure...maybe but depends on lots of factors, Light(Lumen) Air, Heat, Co2, Soil/Compost/Perlite Mix..how close CFL are to plant, the amount of distance to any reflective material or reflector What Nutrients you have given lady(if any) even Stress plays a part in final yield...shit I could go on and on...if you get over 1oz me thinks you should be Happy..It is after all a Learning experience...
Also ~
5000-6500k during Vegatation and then 2700k during flower.
Lets think about how it works in Nature and how we try to replicate this with indoor Grow Rooms and Photoperiod Strains(Autos is Autos) The longer light cycle period during Veg 18/6 or 24/0(Or whatever amount/Time you do) and 12/12 light cycle for the flowering Period.
This type of plant(and lots of others) grow during the first few months of the year and then flower (naturally) in the Autumn(fall)
Naturally the sun is more intense in the spring and summer and also during that time gradually stays light longer. (Think 6500K and long light cycle.)
Then towards Sept/Oct time the angle of the sun as it hits the earth changes, and is less intense.
That's when it gets darker earlier (think 2700k and 12/12) and the plant would naturally bloom.
Peace
Nice Pic of Cabinet.
*God Damn Dirty Captcha!!
wiidnoob
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Really nice reply cc2012 , respect that. I know what you mean.
If you look closer bro, you can see how much space I have there in the box, that's the maximum I can do ... So if I keep this 6500k light bulbs I will need more space ( on the top of my box ) ?
What about flowering ? It will flower harder if I keep this 6500k ?
[ PS : I use nutes ! Nutes / Water / Rest / Nutes / Water / Rest / and so on ... ]
If you look closer bro, you can see how much space I have there in the box, that's the maximum I can do ... So if I keep this 6500k light bulbs I will need more space ( on the top of my box ) ?
What about flowering ? It will flower harder if I keep this 6500k ?
[ PS : I use nutes ! Nutes / Water / Rest / Nutes / Water / Rest / and so on ... ]
Ace Yonder
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Keep the 6500K in addition to the 2700Ks. Think about it this way, 2700K adds bulk to your bud (Because in flowering stage plant changes to use more red light), while 6500K adds potency to your bud (mainly because it emits more uv-b and THC is the plant's defense against uv-b). You want both. With CFLs spectrum isn't AS important as with HID lights because CFL's all have a very wide spectrum whereas MH and HPS have very narrow spectrum. Just a warning, IME 2700K cfl bulbs run a lot hotter than 6500K.
Doer
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Hey, if you can add more height that is always the best for sheddiing heat. 2200K for flowering. It will still flower when I thought it was dead. So, it is the quality of the flowers, that matters.
Outdoor, Springtime has much more blue light, 6500k. But, in the Fall there is more red, or 2200k, but still has a lot of blue, as well. That is what this is about.
