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Fogdog

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see4 said:
Careful, she might call you a poopy pants. Or a libtard.

Because that's the strongest rebuttal she will be able to come up with.
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All you have to do is look at the reasons given for this strange love that white ex-middle class crackers have for Trump.

Loss of status in society
Fear of losing economic well being
Blue collar jobs disappearing or gone
Angst over changes in demographics that are leading to a more diverse culture and loss of entitled higher status simply due to being white.
Anger over pressure to be politically correct on the job

These losers are failing to adapt. Just listen to what @nitro harley says. He's contemptuous of educated people. Now, go back and look at that list and ask how many of those line items are due to a poor education.

This antagonism towards education is exactly why his sub group in this country are losing. I bet you didn't hear that kind of talk in your family, nor in mine. And surprise, we got a good education, good jobs and thrived. Ignorance is not a virtue.
 
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see4

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Fogdog said:
All you have to do is look at the reasons given for this strange love that white ex-middle class crackers have for Trump.

Loss of status in society
Fear of losing economic well being
Blue collar jobs disappearing or gone
Angst over changes in demographics that are leading to a more diverse culture and loss of entitled higher status simply due to being white.
Anger over pressure to be politically correct on the job

These losers are failing to adapt. Just listen to what @nitro harley says. He's contemptuous of educated people. Now, go back and look at that list and ask how many of those line items are due to a poor education.

This antagonism towards education is exactly why his sub group in this country are losing. I bet you didn't hear that kind of talk in your family, nor in mine. And surprise, we got a good education, good jobs and thrived. Ignorance is not a virtue.
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I agree with everything, except...

"Anger over pressure to be politically correct on the job" - Being a jerk is one thing, nobody should be a jerk at work, but being PC has gone a little far lately.

For example, I'm not completely on the side of affirmative action in the workplace if it is forced. Intel is going through some serious restructuring issues because of the tremendous pressure the government is putting on them to be "more diversified". To the point that Intel has sent out a corporate memo to HR stating quite succinctly they need to hire minorities over everyone else first.

Jobs should be given to the most qualified individual. And compensation should be commensurate experience, not race or gender. The oversight should not be in form of forcing companies to diversify but rather penalize when they are way under diversified, or offer assistance in new hiring processes.

But that brings us back to this indignation the Republican party has with educating "the poor". They simply don't want to do it. The upper class Republicans like keeping the poor people, poor. And the poor Republicans are too stupid to realize who they are supporting. They coexist in a tumultuous symbiotic relationship extenuated through cognitive dissonance.
 
Flaming Pie

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Fogdog said:
yep, an ignorant republican would say that. You are still in the mommy should stay at home ethos of a hundred years ago. For myself, I want a partner who is equal to me. Stay at home moms who collect welfare aren't really very interesting. No wonder your kind can't compete in today's world and are dying out.

Its understandable that you would vote for an archaic leader.
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I worked from 15 to 27.

Why should I pay someone 10k a year to watch my child? I work part time as a medical caregiver, take care of house, yard, and finances.

Plus I care for my daughter 9 to 5. I am not going to miss out on my daughters most important years.

Being a good mother is the most important job in the world and can make all the difference in a child's temperment. Sending your kid to childcare for 8 hours a day is giving that job to a stranger.

No thanks.
 
radrolley

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I don't think having more secure borders is a bad idea. It's not going to stop the problem but it will slow it down. I don't like how the media twists everything and makes Trump seem like a racist. It's not hard to come here legally if you're not a thug. I have both friends and relatives that did it without much trouble. Some even came from poverty.

I hate to say it but Hillary is going to be president for 8 years. The Clintons are beyond corrupt even far more than the Bush family. After 8 years of Hillary we will have 8 years of Chelsea. What a fucking joke. Nice fucking job dumbass republicans handing over both previous elections to the democrat fucks by picking weak ass candidates. Looks like the republicans still haven't learned and the democrats will keep on sucking.
 
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londonfog

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Flaming Pie said:
I worked from 15 to 27.

Why should I pay someone 10k a year to watch my child? I work part time as a medical caregiver, take care of house, yard, and finances.

Plus I care for my daughter 9 to 5. I am not going to miss out on my daughters most important years.

Being a good mother is the most important job in the world and can make all the difference in a child's temperment. Sending your kid to childcare for 8 hours a day is giving that job to a stranger.

No thanks.
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If your husband look at your daughter when she turned about 18 and said " she has a nice figure and if she was not my daughter I would date her."
What would you do or say.
 
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Flaming Pie said:
I worked from 15 to 27.

Why should I pay someone 10k a year to watch my child? I work part time as a medical caregiver, take care of house, yard, and finances.

Plus I care for my daughter 9 to 5. I am not going to miss out on my daughters most important years.

Being a good mother is the most important job in the world and can make all the difference in a child's temperment. Sending your kid to childcare for 8 hours a day is giving that job to a stranger.

No thanks.
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Children need a parent to raise them, not day care. My wife stays home and does just this. She is a licensed realtor and manages our rental properties, but the kids are top priority always.

Buddy of mine is paying 3500 a month for daycare for 2 kids, both under 3, just so his wife can work her 75k a year job. I can't believe they trade that time in with their kids for what amounts to about a 100 bucks a day after taxes. Fuck that, why even bother having kids if you are going to let someone else raise them?
 
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londonfog said:
If your husband look at your daughter when she turned about 18 and said " she has a nice figure and if she was not my daughter I would date her."
What would you do or say.
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What? Poor word choice or pedo?

All fathers should feel their daughters are beautiful, but not like that holy shit.
 
londonfog

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Children need a parent to raise them, not day care. My wife stays home and does just this. She is a licensed realtor and manages our rental properties, but the kids are top priority always.

Buddy of mine is paying 3500 a month for daycare for 2 kids, both under 3, just so his wife can work her 75k a year job. I can't believe they trade that time in with their kids for what amounts to about a 100 bucks a day after taxes. Fuck that, why even bother having kids if you are going to let someone else raise them?
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do YOU spend time with your kids.
 
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londonfog said:
do YOU spend time with your kids.
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Why would you think I dont? I sacrifice some time with them to provide an income to afford lifes needs as any father should do. Dont you bust ass at your business and sacrifice some time with them so they have their needs met? Thats my role and its painful to be away from them, but its either that or sitting on my ass at home while the neighbors provide for us all and having kids who grow up to be entitled worthless adults. Wife brings the little ones in to town often, and I sit in my office answering toy phones and playing kid games regularly. Weekends are spent as a family, not boozing/drugging and watching tv. In fact, we dont even have a tv at home.

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Well guy that is what Donald Trump said about his daughter Ivanka.
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Trump often has poor word choice, but I dont believe he is hot for his daughter. He'd lose my vote if I honestly thought he was, fuck those types.
 
londonfog

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Why would you think I dont? I sacrifice some time with them to provide an income to afford lifes needs as any father should do. Dont you bust ass at your business and sacrifice some time with them so they have their needs met? Thats my role and its painful to be away from them, but its either that or sitting on my ass at home while the neighbors provide for us all and having kids who grow up to be entitled worthless adults. Wife brings the little ones in to town often, and I sit in my office answering toy phones and playing kid games regularly. Weekends are spent as a family, not boozing/drugging and watching tv. In fact, we dont even have a tv at home.



Trump often has poor word choice, but I dont believe he is hot for his daughter. He'd lose my vote if I honestly thought he was, fuck those types.
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Seems like you are willing to make excuses for Trump looking at his daughter and thinking about dating her. Must be a tribal thing.

I asked you about if you spend time with you family because of Trumps views of raising kids.

“I like kids. I mean, I won’t do anything to take care of them. I’ll supply funds, and she’ll take care of the kids." –Donald Trump

Do you agree with his family values.
 
Corso312

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So this guy Trump brought on to be an adviser for his campaign is supposed to some heavy hitter..And this dumbass picked Sarah Palin for McCain.. Smh
 
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spandy

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Seems like you are willing to make excuses for Trump looking at his daughter and thinking about dating her. Must be a tribal thing.

I asked you about if you spend time with you family because of Trumps views of raising kids.

“I like kids. I mean, I won’t do anything to take care of them. I’ll supply funds, and she’ll take care of the kids." –Donald Trump

Do you agree with his family values.
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That single line quote is hardly a reflection of his family values. Maybe he just didn't want to change poopy diapers. I didn't either.

Gifts,quality time, words of affirmation, acts of service, and physical touch. If you are a super hero in one of these areas, you are doing better than many fathers out there.
 
londonfog

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@spandy You sure love making excuse for Trumps downfall. ALL men should do all it takes to raise their children and that does include spending time with your kids and doing things for them, even if you have to change a diaper or give a supervised bath.
His comments are a direct view of what he thinks.

Do you also dislike our Vets who get captured ?
 
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Flaming Pie

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londonfog said:
If your husband look at your daughter when she turned about 18 and said " she has a nice figure and if she was not my daughter I would date her."
What would you do or say.
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My daughter is beautiful and any man who is great as me would be lucky to have her.
 
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