the one person you agree with has NEVER grown or made a purchase from Nirvana.
You keep whipping the same dead horse. No, I have never purchased or grown any of Nirvana's garbage, but friends of mine, people that are skilled growers, have and they, nor I, have ever been at all impressed. The least impressed of them was the one who Nirvana threatened to send his personal information to his local law enforcement agency unless he spotted asking them to send the order he paid for and they never shipped or refund his money.
Just like the member here who about a year or year and a half ago started a thread about the same threat being made.
And just like the message I posted where someone else was threatened.
And rather similar to the on where Nirvana did post the customer's personal information.
You seem to want the only way someone can have a valid point is if they purchased and grew Nirvana's trash themselves.
Trying something enough times, as in sampling it, is more than enough experience for someone to need to comment on it.
When my ex-business partner and I owned a marina I owned a Ford F-150 4X4, we, as in the marina, purchases two Ford F-250 Turbo-Diesels. Even though we had previously owned a Lincoln-Mercury dealership and had friends who would have given him a great deal he let his neighbor, a Chrysler, Dodge Jeep dealer talk him into leasing a Dodge 4X4 pickup. In three months the transmission needed to be replaced. They said pulling boats it needed more cooling for the transmission so a transmission cooler was added. The second transmission lasted five months. The was plagued with electrical problems. My partner was not anywhere near overweight and in months the drivers seat area was all broken down, the foam collapsed and the springs sagging so when you would drive it you were almost leaning on the drivers door. Compared to my F-150 the Dodge didn't have enough power to pull a marble from a mud puddle and compared to the F-250 Turbo-Diesels you'd think the Dodge had been made by Tonka.
Over the period of the three year lease I drove that truck MANY times. I never spent a single penny on the truck but I had more than enough experience with it to know that it was pure punk, that it was a low quality product, that compared to my F-150 it deserved to be in a scrap yard somewhere.
A person can get more than enough experience with something without spending their own money on it to know if it is quality or if it is trash, and that is precisely the case with myself and Nirvana products.
So you can pay to rest the 'he didn't spend him own money and grow any Nirvana gear' because son, that dog just won't hunt.
I'm not paid by them, I pay them and I get good seeds, quickly..... in fact, about 95% of the responders to this thread agree.... Do you think all of us are Nirvana employees?
Again you are relying on this thread and this thread alone, or possibly to some degree this site, as definitive proof of Nirvana being a reputable business with high quality genetics. But you totally dismiss what is said about them on many, many other boards and what you find if you Google Nirvana and add any negative keywords and get more hits than you would ever spend the time to read through one twentieth of them.
If you like Nirvana and want to use them, that's totally cool and the gang. But you should think of others who do not know anything about Nirvana and not mislead them by attempting to play up Nirvana, and it's gear, into things it has never been, that being reputable and being high quality genetics.