jerryb73
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Great call on not throwing out the bottle I forgot to mention that, don't know if anyone else did..
Drug Test, Need help, anyone use synthetic urine?
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mike myers mask
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thats just common sense man and really shouldnt be addressed for safety reasons.
do you want someone at the workplace that is potentially stupid enough to leave a piss bottle in the test room
jerryb73
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You are right it is common sense but I know a lot of people without it.. And have read so many posts on here that make me say hmm.. So...
MrStickyScissors
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iv used the fake piss. but I would recommend the stip nc. the one that comesin a red 24 oz liquid. iv used it seeral times and my wife even went in high and passed. the trick is not to drink to much water after because you will flush all of the drink out of your system. just drink like a 20 oz bottla of water and pee twice
DoctorJackalope
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I specifically mentioned leaving with the bottle because someone ahead of me said to wrap the bottle in toilet paper and throw it out. I just wanted to mention that it was a terrible idea to leave evidence like that behind.
mike myers mask
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those people dont deserve jobs. just let them eventually fuck up and go to jail. *sweeps hands*
Nik Highwind
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I passes a drug test this morning using my ol ladys piss. I knew about the test a day in advance. Washed out a condom and dried it turning it inside out.morning came and lady put her urine into condom and tied shut for me. She left at 7am. My test was at 11. I wasnt sure if it needed to stay warm the entire time i waited but to be on the safe side i put the condom of urine behind the ps4 (its nice and toasy where the fans blow). Time was getting closer so i wanted to prep the temp since i had no real means of checking if it is between the temps of 90 and 100. I taped the condom under my balls (nice warm spot). I ended up only needing 45ml of urine btw. How to pop the condom? They emty your pockets. If u dont have finger nails i found them hard to break open testing. My solution was a small earing clipped to my undershirt sleeve.
Put the urine in the drug test cup, take a piss in the toilette (so it sounda good) and i got the clean drug test.
Put the urine in the drug test cup, take a piss in the toilette (so it sounda good) and i got the clean drug test.
Nik Highwind
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I would also like to add.....i left the condom taped to my junk after i poped it. Put the earing in my pocket seems they allready emptied my pockets. Still some drops of piss in it tinkling down my leg a little D:
MouseE
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Your on the right path, I use to use the micowave method with other peoples piss and put it in a 5 hour energy shot glass.
MouseE
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Its possible, if your super fit (under I'd say around 8% body fat if your a male), and do all the things you can do (proper diet before, lots of fat a couple days before and slow down exercise, diluting enough but not too much for invoid, etc).
The average Joe is very unlikely to succeed at that though, although my DOC officer was relaxed about dilution, so I could basically hand him a cup of almost straight water (middle of piss=most diluted) and he'd be chill.
I think he knew I was a stoner though, was just glad I wasn't around banging meth and hitting licks like half his actives.....
bravedave
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I AM pretty much fat free yet as a every day smoker it took me 16 days to clean up. It took me 8 days to clean up when I was a weekendish toker. Although I am not sure he described it here but, @qwizoking was really advocating a cover-up, not a clean-up...which I still would not expect to pass if sent to the large national testing labs who test for cheats.
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qwizoking
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I dont cover up... and i cant believe your still going on about this, i thought youd dropped it a while ago..
As i said previously im tested for all illegal drugs as well as an incredible array of other substances including precursors metabolites and drugs not typically seen.
Of course the test is extensive, far more than whatever national lab you speak of..
lets try to look at this from a logical or scientific perspective.
Leave the reefer madness points elsewhere, it doesnt take weeks to leave your body, imagine how high we'd stay if it really had a 60hr half life or something
thc has an initial half life of about 4hrs...as low as 2, as high as 6 depending on yiur body and lifestyle, in normal healthy people ie no issues metabolizing........ and a terminal half life about 30hrs. this is due to the high logp of the drug aiding in absorption to fatty tissue. and why heavy daily users can have a harder time cleansing. heavy is something like a 1/8-1/4 of bud a day to yourself , not just smoking daily but attempting to stay saturated...
now...
"an occasional or on-off user would be very unlikely to test positive beyond 3–4 days since the last use, and a chronic user would be unlikely to test positive much beyond 7 days,
it may only be detectable in saliva/oral fluid for 2–24 hours in most cases.
Cannabis is detectable in the blood for approximately 12-24 hours, with heavy/frequent use detectable in the blood for up to 7 days (its on and off as they hover along the cut off)"
jacked from a relatively unbiased drug detection discussion/site
as you can see, the curve starts to build with heavy users, but the quick half life is apparent....
, if none is stored in the body keeping you hovering along the cut off it leaves relatively soon...shit whats the term for this, man its been too long since i was in school a parabola i think, but thats not the term im.looking for..anyway you get the idea
now if you smoked half a gram with an avg of 20% thc of dank bud as the last time you smoked
(.1 grams of thc)
with a bioavailability of about 20% .. only .02 grams of thc entered your body.
..note this is not including a prior smoke session...
the test has a cut off at, .00000005 grams per ml.
not total in your body.
this means that after *24hrs having an avg metabolism and average hydration you could pass.
i dont feel like doing math, but total in your body would be less than the cutoff after *48hrs having an avg metabolism!. your piss, which again is not total but concentration per ml, will be clean after *24
its the terminal half life that becomes a problem. and really what supplements aid.
in my line of work, i get drug tested often.
i documented a drug test on riu for personal reasons where i
smoked half a gram ~40hrs before testing and passed,
here i actually did some relatively extensive calculation... i smoke a few times daily...currently a light-medium user. a few times a day totaling 1-2 grams normally. i couldve gone alot sooner but i figure best to be cautious. im sure my calculations have been wrong before...i just cant remember such a time
* note that these are rough and generous estimations, more for info
exercise and stay hydrated to flush. Night before and morning eat a big meal to slow metabolism. still stay hydrated....
good to go. Im clean in a couple days every time i do have a pretty high metabolism and active lifestyle but like i said....
As i said previously im tested for all illegal drugs as well as an incredible array of other substances including precursors metabolites and drugs not typically seen.
Of course the test is extensive, far more than whatever national lab you speak of..
lets try to look at this from a logical or scientific perspective.
Leave the reefer madness points elsewhere, it doesnt take weeks to leave your body, imagine how high we'd stay if it really had a 60hr half life or something
thc has an initial half life of about 4hrs...as low as 2, as high as 6 depending on yiur body and lifestyle, in normal healthy people ie no issues metabolizing........ and a terminal half life about 30hrs. this is due to the high logp of the drug aiding in absorption to fatty tissue. and why heavy daily users can have a harder time cleansing. heavy is something like a 1/8-1/4 of bud a day to yourself , not just smoking daily but attempting to stay saturated...
now...
"an occasional or on-off user would be very unlikely to test positive beyond 3–4 days since the last use, and a chronic user would be unlikely to test positive much beyond 7 days,
it may only be detectable in saliva/oral fluid for 2–24 hours in most cases.
Cannabis is detectable in the blood for approximately 12-24 hours, with heavy/frequent use detectable in the blood for up to 7 days (its on and off as they hover along the cut off)"
jacked from a relatively unbiased drug detection discussion/site
as you can see, the curve starts to build with heavy users, but the quick half life is apparent....
, if none is stored in the body keeping you hovering along the cut off it leaves relatively soon...shit whats the term for this, man its been too long since i was in school a parabola i think, but thats not the term im.looking for..anyway you get the idea
now if you smoked half a gram with an avg of 20% thc of dank bud as the last time you smoked
(.1 grams of thc)
with a bioavailability of about 20% .. only .02 grams of thc entered your body.
..note this is not including a prior smoke session...
the test has a cut off at, .00000005 grams per ml.
not total in your body.
this means that after *24hrs having an avg metabolism and average hydration you could pass.
i dont feel like doing math, but total in your body would be less than the cutoff after *48hrs having an avg metabolism!. your piss, which again is not total but concentration per ml, will be clean after *24
its the terminal half life that becomes a problem. and really what supplements aid.
in my line of work, i get drug tested often.
i documented a drug test on riu for personal reasons where i
smoked half a gram ~40hrs before testing and passed,
here i actually did some relatively extensive calculation... i smoke a few times daily...currently a light-medium user. a few times a day totaling 1-2 grams normally. i couldve gone alot sooner but i figure best to be cautious. im sure my calculations have been wrong before...i just cant remember such a time
* note that these are rough and generous estimations, more for info
exercise and stay hydrated to flush. Night before and morning eat a big meal to slow metabolism. still stay hydrated....
good to go. Im clean in a couple days every time i do have a pretty high metabolism and active lifestyle but like i said....
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Olive Drab Green
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They don't cleanse, they block the release of "toxins" into your urine. You take Rescue Detox Ice (Raspberry is best tasting), the bigg'un if you're a big guy or two of the $30 ones, drink, fill once with water and drink, and 2 hours later you have a 3-5 hour window. Stop smoking at least 2 days prior but preferrably a week prior. I used it with more than just weed in my system for a VA UA. Passed, doing weed, coke, and benzos (which was more for the hypertension uppers can cause). Piss 4+ times before taking the test, or the stuff you had building up while you sleep is going to show up.
Olive Drab Green
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They use synthethic urine to calibrate machines. I just hope he doesn't have any scripts they're expecting to pop hot, because it'll pop negative and that will raise eyebrows.
bravedave
Well-Known Member
First, I didn't bring this thread back, someone else did.I dont cover up... and i cant believe your still going on about this, i thought youd dropped it a while ago..
As i said previously im tested for all illegal drugs as well as an incredible array of other substances including precursors metabolites and drugs not typically seen.
Of course the test is extensive, far more than whatever national lab you speak of..
lets try to look at this from a logical or scientific perspective.
Leave the reefer madness points elsewhere, it doesnt take weeks to leave your body, imagine how high we'd stay if it really had a 60hr half life or something
thc has an initial half life of about 4hrs...as low as 2, as high as 6 depending on yiur body and lifestyle, in normal healthy people ie no issues metabolizing........ and a terminal half life about 30hrs. this is due to the high logp of the drug aiding in absorption to fatty tissue. and why heavy daily users can have a harder time cleansing. heavy is something like a 1/8-1/4 of bud a day to yourself , not just smoking daily but attempting to stay saturated...
now...
"an occasional or on-off user would be very unlikely to test positive beyond 3–4 days since the last use, and a chronic user would be unlikely to test positive much beyond 7 days,
it may only be detectable in saliva/oral fluid for 2–24 hours in most cases.
Cannabis is detectable in the blood for approximately 12-24 hours, with heavy/frequent use detectable in the blood for up to 7 days (its on and off as they hover along the cut off)"
jacked from a relatively unbiased drug detection discussion/site
as you can see, the curve starts to build with heavy users, but the quick half life is apparent....
, if none is stored in the body keeping you hovering along the cut off it leaves relatively soon...shit whats the term for this, man its been too long since i was in school a parabola i think, but thats not the term im.looking for..anyway you get the idea
now if you smoked half a gram with an avg of 20% thc of dank bud as the last time you smoked
(.1 grams of thc)
with a bioavailability of about 20% .. only .02 grams of thc entered your body.
..note this is not including a prior smoke session...
the test has a cut off at, .00000005 grams per ml.
not total in your body.
this means that after *24hrs having an avg metabolism and average hydration you could pass.
i dont feel like doing math, but total in your body would be less than the cutoff after *48hrs having an avg metabolism!. your piss, which again is not total but concentration per ml, will be clean after *24
its the terminal half life that becomes a problem. and really what supplements aid.
in my line of work, i get drug tested often.
i documented a drug test on riu for personal reasons where i
smoked half a gram ~40hrs before testing and passed,
here i actually did some relatively extensive calculation... i smoke a few times daily...currently a light-medium user. a few times a day totaling 1-2 grams normally. i couldve gone alot sooner but i figure best to be cautious. im sure my calculations have been wrong before...i just cant remember such a time
* note that these are rough and generous estimations, more for info
exercise and stay hydrated to flush. Night before and morning eat a big meal to slow metabolism. still stay hydrated....
good to go. Im clean in a couple days every time i do have a pretty high metabolism and active lifestyle but like i said....
I thought your secret recipe was "Sure-Jel". Funny in all your verbosity you fail to mention that here. Sorry Quiz, your podunk lab does not compare to "Qwest Diag".
Olive Drab Green
Well-Known Member
Is this a DoD UA or a DoJ/DoC UA? Seems like you're talking meat gazers being present, so it's not medical.
bravedave
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Again then, why did you leave that out in the book you provided above. Glad it works for you but, Your suggestion continues to be dangerous and negligent and anyone who googles on pectin an MJ will find the Sure-Gel solution as an urban myth.