Electing Hillary would be dangerous

undertheice

undertheice

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We TaRdED said:
I have a DVD burner. If someone is computer savvy enough to make a DVD on all the pertinent info about the truth, than I would gladly make many copies and pass them out to colleges or wherever.
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information isn't enough. it's all out there already and understood by those with the intelligence and heart to do so. what is missing is the conviction to enact real change and the courage to act on that conviction. the further we sink into this "age of entitlement", the further away is any hope of reversing the tide. the corruption is blatant. the loss of control over our own lives is an obvious fact. our freedoms are under attack at every turn from both sides of the political spectrum, but our hopelessness defeats us before we can even begin.

i firmly believe myself to be entirely mad (and the shrinks tend to agree whenever they can catch me long enough to state their opinions:rolleyes:), but i see no merit in the sanity of the masses who wait patiently for the next blow to fall.
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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undertheice said:
information isn't enough.
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Your right. Info is not enough, unless everyone knew the info. I know I would get my gun and march up to Washington if I had 20k other people going with me...:mrgreen:...

Strength in numbers. The more people that know, the more people are willing to take action. Makes sense? It makes perfect sense to me! Strength in numbers.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
medicineman

medicineman

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We TaRdED said:
Your right. Info is not enough, unless everyone knew the info. I know I would get my gun and march up to Washington if I had 20k other people going with me...:mrgreen:...

Strength in numbers. The more people that know, the more people are willing to take action. Makes sense? It makes perfect sense to me! Strength in numbers.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
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We, you are probably too young to remember the '60's, but we had over 100,000 people surrounding the white house during the Nam war and that fuck Nixon wouldn't even come out to speak to them. He was cowering behind secret service and national guard. BTW, in todays US, 20,000 people marching with guns would bring out the cluster bombs.
 
ViRedd

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medicineman said:
We, you are probably too young to remember the '60's, but we had over 100,000 people surrounding the white house during the Nam war and that fuck Nixon wouldn't even come out to speak to them. He was cowering behind secret service and national guard. BTW, in todays US, 20,000 people marching with guns would bring out the cluster bombs.
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Right ... 100,000 hippies waving The Little Red Book, chanting: "Ho, Ho, ... Ho Chi Minh!" That was right before they burned the Bank of America building down in Isla Vista. ~lol~

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medicineman

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ViRedd said:
Right ... 100,000 hippies waving The Little Red Book, chanting: "Ho, Ho, ... Ho Chi Minh!" That was right before they burned the Bank of America building down in Isla Vista. ~lol~

Vi
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You are one warped son-of a bitch. That was 100,000 citizens protesting the War. There was no referance to communism in that post at all. So what you are really saying (translation) is all war protesters are commies.
 
hom36rown

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Yeah I dont understand how you can deduce that they were communitsts just from the fact that they were protesting the war in vietnam
 
ViRedd

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Most of those war protesters were in essence siding with the North Vietnamese. Most may have not been out and out communists, but they certainly were useful idiots who were duped by the ultra-left. Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden come to mind. As a result of our pulling out of Vietnam, millions were slaughtered. They still won't own up to that little factoid.

Vi
 
joepro

joepro

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hom36rown said:
Yeah I dont understand how you can deduce that they were communitsts just from the fact that they were protesting the war in vietnam
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The hippie movment was alot more then"end this war."
I can conduct the hippie movment with a form of communism pretty easy.
We have been living a form of fascism for the last 30 years because of so-called people (snakes) who were apart of the hippie movment.One extreme to the other and...back again.
Obama will bring back another form of communism, and the people can't wait.

The sweet smell of nationalism...How sweet it is.
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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For the record, I'm pro capitalism and anti war. I don't believe we should partake in war unless we are attacked by another nation, and not because of some "terrorists". I believe most wars are wanted by the big wigs that profiteer off exploiting the tax payers.

War = Bad... Fock the war in the middle east, we have no business over there. Anyone that believes in war should be in the army. The only reason I would join the military would be if another nation attacked us. I would partake in our countries defense, but I will not partake in nation building(on the offensive).

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
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trishmybiscuits

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ViRedd said:
Right ... 100,000 hippies waving The Little Red Book, chanting: "Ho, Ho, ... Ho Chi Minh!" That was right before they burned the Bank of America building down in Isla Vista. ~lol~

Vi
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The notion that the anti-war protesters of the 1960's were all just hippie communists is pathetically ignorant. You're going to find yourself completely lacking of any credibility if you keep making pathetically ignorant comments like that.
 
joepro

joepro

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trishmybiscuits said:
The notion that the anti-war protesters of the 1960's were all just hippie communists is pathetically ignorant. You're going to find yourself completely lacking of any credibility if you keep making pathetically ignorant comments like that.
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The hippie movment was a socialist/communiste movment(well crush thoes greedy fuckers who are in control/have more, for the people who have less!) alot more to the hippies then"end this war!" socialism is the same fucking thing as communism and if you don't think so then you need to look up socialism and communism and marxism in a encyclopedia.
 
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undertheice

undertheice

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joepro said:
socialism is the same fucking thing as communism and if you don't think so then you need to look up socialism and communism and marxism in a encyclopedia.
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here we go with the webster's definition thing again.

in a true democracy socialism and communism may very well be the same thing, but true democracy is seldom seen outside of a few bucolic settings in rural oregon. the sad truth is that socialist control of the people, their assets and the means of production by the state is rarely used to benefit the people themselves but to enrich the functionaries of the state. the warping of marxist style theory by such tyrants as stalin and mao have shown us that once government gains control they are unwilling to loosen their grip on the reins of such power and hand it over to the people. a communally organized system dispenses with the consolidation of powers within the state and that power remains with the workers whose labor (and possibly assets) produce the goods and services upon which the economy is built.

these are both merely economic systems and, as such, are dependent upon a political system for final definition. within the confines of socialist and communist thought there are many different schools whose ideologies may be as disparate as capitalism and socialism. believe it or not, that's the simple definition. i'm sure that experts in the field would undoubtedly consider my conclusions too simple-minded, but theory seldom lives up to practical application.
 
shamegame

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Just wait until another "terrorist attack" happens right before the elections allowing Bush and company to declare martial law, cancel the elections, and retain absolute power.
 
joepro

joepro

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shamegame said:
Just wait until another "terrorist attack" happens right before the elections allowing Bush and company to declare martial law, cancel the elections, and retain absolute power.
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Ive thought of that..wow, what a fucked up thought that is huh? :joint:
 
undertheice

undertheice

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shamegame said:
Just wait until another "terrorist attack" happens right before the elections allowing Bush and company to declare martial law, cancel the elections, and retain absolute power.
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that might not be such a bad thing. complacency has reached near epidemic proportions and such a coup might just loosen up a few of the arsenals lying hidden around the country. our military is tied up on the other side of the world and america has always loved an underdog.
 
joepro

joepro

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undertheice said:
here we go with the webster's definition thing again.

in a true democracy socialism and communism may very well be the same thing, but.........
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Without definition then what? One needs the glue/nails to hold something together. without it, one would only build a house of cards, no?
 
We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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undertheice said:
that might not be such a bad thing. complacency has reached near epidemic proportions and such a coup might just loosen up a few of the arsenals lying hidden around the country. our military is tied up on the other side of the world and america has always loved an underdog.
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Whos the underdog? Us? Also, what are the hidden arsenals you talk about?

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
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trishmybiscuits

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joepro said:
The hippie movment was a socialist/communiste movment(well crush thoes greedy fuckers who are in control/have more, for the people who have less!) alot more to the hippies then"end this war!" socialism is the same fucking thing as communism and if you don't think so then you need to look up socialism and communism and marxism in a encyclopedia.
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I have two things to say in response. First, I think you'll find that the anti-war protesters of the 60's were a cross section of the American public, not just hippies. Second, the term "hippie" pertains to a certain culture - specifically, the drug-induced, flower power, tune-in, drop-out LSD-like culture.
 
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