First Autoflower Any Advice?

I can only give u some of the basic "tips" but I'm no pro..

Supposedly autos are more susceptible to stress. a lot of people recommend not transplanting them, n planting directly in the final pot from the start. You can use the tiered method with a solo cup if u really want to start n a smaller pot, n just cut off the bottom of the cup n bury it partially in ur final pot later to create a relatively stress free transplant scenario.

The main diff of course is you don't need to induce flowering with 12/12 like you would with a photo. 18/6 and 24/7 (well...24/0) are common photoperiods used for autos n they will "automatically" start flowering regardless.

Some say 3 gallon pots are as big as you need to go with most AF but others claim better results with larger pots. Probably varies with strains so you will want to experiment with diff sizes to figure out the optimal pot size for the strain you choose.

I've heard you should feed them less than photos but you can also start feeding sooner than you would with photos.

They are also supposed to be more prone to hermy out but some growers have grown dozens of autos without ever getting a herm.

The veg period on some autos is too short to recover from serious training n topping, but some have had great results with topping autos when they time it right - doing it early - so the plant can come back strong before flowering begins.

Just a couple pointers from my research on them - take it with a grain of salt as u should with anything you read online. Good luck
Ther is NO WAY YOU SHOULD OR TOP YOUR AUTOs!!! They flower in week 3 or 4 so def not enough time to recover and bounce back!! What i do is def gake a few of the bottom UNDER leaves off so the plant can use its energy to push up and use all energy for bud production!! Just make SURE YOU DO NOT REMOVE LEAVES THAT ARE NEEDED!!!!!!! SO THINK TWICE BEFORE PRUNNING ANYTHING WITH YOUR AUTOs!!! ;) I havent heard much of anything with hermy problems though!!?! Only thing I have heard is that when growers have inconsistant temps and so on they will produce herms and every strains gonna produce a herm here or ther!! Its like my 2 Skunk Mass Autos, on grows like a pure sativa and the other shows more indica trates!! Sooo just like having babies everyone will be a tad bit diffrent.
 

ayr0n

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Ther is NO WAY YOU SHOULD OR TOP YOUR AUTOs!!! They flower in week 3 or 4 so def not enough time to recover and bounce back!! What i do is def gake a few of the bottom UNDER leaves off so the plant can use its energy to push up and use all energy for bud production!! Just make SURE YOU DO NOT REMOVE LEAVES THAT ARE NEEDED!!!!!!! SO THINK TWICE BEFORE PRUNNING ANYTHING WITH YOUR AUTOs!!! ;) I havent heard much of anything with hermy problems though!!?! Only thing I have heard is that when growers have inconsistant temps and so on they will produce herms and every strains gonna produce a herm here or ther!! Its like my 2 Skunk Mass Autos, on grows like a pure sativa and the other shows more indica trates!! Sooo just like having babies everyone will be a tad bit diffrent.
Well if they are more prone to stress / stressed easier and stress can induce Herman than in theory they'd be more prone to herm out right?
 
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flynfish

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Ther is NO WAY YOU SHOULD OR TOP YOUR AUTOs!!! They flower in week 3 or 4 so def not enough time to recover and bounce back!! What i do is def gake a few of the bottom UNDER leaves off so the plant can use its energy to push up and use all energy for bud production!! Just make SURE YOU DO NOT REMOVE LEAVES THAT ARE NEEDED!!!!!!! SO THINK TWICE BEFORE PRUNNING ANYTHING WITH YOUR AUTOs!!! ;) I havent heard much of anything with hermy problems though!!?! Only thin g I have heard is that when growers have inconsistant temps and so on they will produce herms and every strains gonna produce a herm here or ther!! Its like my 2 Skunk Mass Autos, on grows like a pure sativa and the other shows more indica trates!! Sooo just like having babies everyone will be a tad bit diffrent.[/QUOTE
hey guys no topping got done. lst been started. I do want honest opinions on this tho. I have the option of picking up a 225 led panel from a friend. he upgraded and I could steal it for less than 30 bucks. I looked it up on line just don't know a lot bout them due to me growing with cfls right now. it will fit in new case which is 2x3x1.5. tell me what u think. I don't wanna waste money thx
 

flynfish

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hey guys think I did my reply in wrong spot. lst is done. no topping. now on to my real question. I got a new box. fans are in. scrubber is in. now to lights I got the opportunity to basically steal a 225 led panel from a friend that's upgrading it will fit great and all works fine. let me know the opinions on it never dealt with led as im new and using cfl for first time thx
 

scarecrow77

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From my experience with autos..once you start them in there final pot and don't top them there pretty stress free plants...the best yeilds I had with autos all came from 2 gallon pots ..they don't veg long enough for a bigger root system..they will grow under any light with any time shedule..you can't stress them with light leaks or any thing like that...i found 20/4 to be best for them..very light on the nutes aswell..hope this helps
 

flynfish

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it does. I am needing a bigger box so I came up with one. and wanted to get away from using a lot of cfls and go with led. my buddy says his 225 led panel is mine if I want it. my question is its only 14w would that be enough, please keep in mind only one plant at a time for personal use only thx
 

tekdc911

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you can top auto's
i have topped alot of them and it helps yield most of the time but they stretch so if space is a issue dont do it
Seymour buds
topped his auto mazar and it yielded 360 grams out of a 5 gal dwc under a 600w equivalent led
these are not the same auto's
that they were 10 years ago
if a grow guide has not been wrote in the last 3-5 years and quotes anything dj short or stitch wrote from ten years ago i wouldnt follow it to the letter

https://www.rollitup.org/p/10650982/
topped auto
o_O
 

tekdc911

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the bigger the pot the better
bigger pots full of soil that drains well and at the proper moisture level
grow big plants if provided enough light
i mean honestly have you ever wondered why alot of the monster auto's you see are in 5 gal buckets ?
 
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flynfish

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I totally understand and took ur advise. I didn't top my plant but did start the lst. wanna get away from the cfl with this new cabinet. got an option to get an led panel from a friend. its 225led but only 14 watts hes wanting bout 20bucks. only got 24 in space in height what do you guys think? is it a waste of so I will just stick with cfl thx
 

tekdc911

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i have no idea on the led's
ive never heard of a 225 diode led only drawing 14w
thats really not that much
my led's are 150 w and like 50 something diodes so i dont know honestly i think cfl's would be better if you could control heat
i usually say you need 100w a plant but thats a rather small space
i use 68w ge 2700k cfl's they are about the size of a nerf football
and ive gotten by with one a plant and pulled a oz roughly
if you go the cfl route i would use more of a blue spec that would keep the stretch down probably
 

flynfish

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that's what I got going now is one under 2 cfls they are the 60w 5000k right now gonna go get some 2700k tomoro and add in there with it. im happy with whats going on and I should be able to keep the heat down with the 2 120mm fans I got. spent a little extra for the speed control kind
 

tekdc911

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Well if they are more prone to stress / stressed easier and stress can induce Herman than in theory they'd be more prone to herm out right?
a stable auto is less prone to hermi
the only way to hermi a stable auto is chemically ;)
if cutting or light or temps makes them hermi then its the genetics that did it
 

flynfish

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thx tek I appreciate the support u have given me. once new box is done ill post pics. think I might use reflectix on this one I used an old windshield reflctor for my pc grow that's going now
 

tekdc911

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sporting goods isle
has these mylar emergency blankets they are like 3 for 5 bucks or something they work really well and they are kinda large
 
hey guys think I did my reply in wrong spot. lst is done. no topping. now on to my real question. I got a new box. fans are in. scrubber is in. now to lights I got the opportunity to basically steal a 225 led panel from a friend that's upgrading it will fit great and all works fine. let me know the opinions on it never dealt with led as im new and using cfl for first time thx
Is it a full spectrum LED??
 
For 30 bucks Ibwould take it regardless if its a full spectrum or not! But if its not a full spectrum your gonna have an issue unless your buying nunerous LED panels in nunerous diffrent colors for diffrent stages of growing!! I started with a full spectrum and once flowering started I added 2 red LED panels 30each to my set up!! I have the full spec led set at 18/6 and the red leds stay on 24/0.
 

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it does. I am needing a bigger box so I came up with one. and wanted to get away from using a lot of cfls and go with led. my buddy says his 225 led panel is mine if I want it. my question is its only 14w would that be enough, please keep in mind only one plant at a time for personal use only thx
If its NOT A FULL SPECTRUM THEN WHATEVER IT IS THAT HE HAS NEEDS TO BE USED IN CONJUCTION WITH A FULL SPEC LED!!! THEY WONT GET THE PROPER LIGHTING NEEDED TO GRO BRO!!!!! THE lightvthat xomes out of my red led panels is not as much as 1 SINGLE LED ON MY FULL SPEC!!!
 
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