First Grow: 400 watt HPS, Permafrost, White Widow, White Rhino, Blackjack

itsgrowinglikeaweed

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I am very much against hydro. There are advantages to both ways. There are negatives to both ways. I want ORGANIC herb. I do not want my plant to be grown with chemicals. And I certainly don't want to be a slave to the hydro store.
If you ask me you are more likely to have PH problems in hydro. Soil PH is much more stable.

7.2 is not that bad. Not bad enough to lockout N anyway. Something is wrong with those plants though. I dont think its N. remind me what you are feeding with....?
That one is showing some purple. thats usually a Phosphorus Def. but it might just be magnesium. Mg def can show up alot of different ways. You might be right about the lockout too.
Hmmmm.... At Ph above 7 Phosphorus will get locked out 1st. You have what looks like it could be P def (purpleish color). lowering PH in soil is easy. ACV Apple cidar vinegar. I'd start watering with 6.0 maybe high 5's if you think the PH is really too high.
I gotta run....
Dracoliver's goo on the wire trick sounds cool lol.
Peace.
 

jrp677

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i would wait. jorge cervantez says that if you dry your buds on a wire and then put tangle foot or insect stick glue on the ends of the wire then the mites will leave the drying buds and get caught in the goo. patience is the key to couch lock
Thanks Dracoliver, that's a great idea.

The plant had twice the amount of webs on it this morning than it did yesterday. I've decided to cut her down next week regardless. The mites are breeding like crazy and I don't want to create more of a problem for the next grow by letting the mites breed for additional weeks.
 

jrp677

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IGLAW: I am very much against hydro. There are advantages to both ways. There are negatives to both ways. I want ORGANIC herb. I do not want my plant to be grown with chemicals. And I certainly don't want to be a slave to the hydro store.

JRP: Good point.



IGLAW: mmmm.... At Ph above 7 Phosphorus will get locked out 1st. You have what looks like it could be P def (purpleish color). lowering PH in soil is easy. ACV Apple cidar vinegar. I'd start watering with 6.0 maybe high 5's if you think the PH is really too high.

JRP: I'm using FoxFarms nutes. I have a feeling that while I was in Vegas the PH in the water wasn't adjusted properly OR I went overboard with the nutes the last time I fed them. I'll try watering with low 6 ph next time.
 

jrp677

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My last PF got chopped this morning. It was almost entirely covered in webs when I opened the cab.

TIME TO UNLEASH HELL:

I picked up some Pyrethrin foggers as well as a product called AzaMax, anyone heard of it? The cabinet just got it's first round of gas. I'll take down all of the mylar and ducting and then unleash "Hell in a can" round 2. Supposedly you mix the AzaMax into your watering solution. Once the plant absorbs the AzaMax it kills any bug that takes a bite. It's safe to use on fruiting plants up to the day of harvest. The guy at the hydro store says that he uses it on all of his outdoor plants and never has pest problems....I say it's worth a try. I happened to be at the store at the same time as the Bontanicare rep and picked up a free bottle of SWEET Grape. Anybody ever used this? If so how did it work for you?


NEXT POST WILL BE DAY 1 OF FLOWERING FOR WHITE RHINO, BLACKJACK, & PERMAFROST.

If I get 100% roots on my 6 clones then I'm going to stick 3 of them immediately into flowering and veg the other 3. Hopefully this time around I'm going to have 3 plants with 6-8 top colas and 3 plants that I'll grow "lollipop" style. Stay tuned. :peace: OUT!
 

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Last time I had 100% success rate with my clone bucket by letting it run 24/7. It took 2 weeks for all of the cuttings to develop a strong set of roots. This time I have the bucket on a timer, 15 minutes on, 15 minutes off. Wednesday will be day 7 in the bucket and as it stands now 4 of the 6 cuttings have root nubs. We shall see which method is faster. By this time next week the age old cloning debate will be put to rest. Friday will be day 7 of Flowering, I'll post an update then. :peace: OUT!
 

jrp677

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The cuttings have been in the bucket for 7 days now. 3 of the 6 are ready to be planted. Out of the other 3, 2 have nubs and 1 is not showing any root development.
 

itsgrowinglikeaweed

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Damn thats fast! Ready for planting in 7 days!? Way to grow!
My clone bowl totally failed. I finally got one to root in a cup of starter mix though. Keep It Simple Stupid works lol. No dome, no airstone, no misting... nothing. I just clipped it, stuck it in starter mix and kept it moist.
I have 3 in rapid rooter plugs right now. Its been 7 days. They look fine, but no signs of roots yet.
 

jrp677

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Damn thats fast! Ready for planting in 7 days!? Way to grow!
My clone bowl totally failed. I finally got one to root in a cup of starter mix though. Keep It Simple Stupid works lol. No dome, no airstone, no misting... nothing. I just clipped it, stuck it in starter mix and kept it moist.
I have 3 in rapid rooter plugs right now. Its been 7 days. They look fine, but no signs of roots yet.

Thanks IGLAW, If I could only get my PH issues under control my plants might look as good as yours do. I re-calibrated my PH Meter this morning. I just can't figure out why I'm still having PH problems when I adjust the PH in the water EVERYTIME.:wall:
 

jrp677

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IGLAW: Do you use a heating pad for your rapid rooter plugs? From what I've read and the little bit of experience I do have, they make a world of difference with the success rate. Most heating pads time out after 2-3 hours so I put mine on a timer, on for 1 1/2 hours, off for 15 minutes. It worked well for me.
 

itsgrowinglikeaweed

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Yeah I've got a heat pad. I use it to germinate my seeds. I hear a lot of people using them to clone. BUT....none of these people say what their ambient room temp is.
What temperature was the room/area that you had the heat pad in?
I'm convinced that my clones all failed this summer because it was too hot already. Definitely did not need a heat pad. Summer is over and its just now getting below 80 in my veg/clone area. I've read around 75-80 is a good temp for cloning and I'm there now so I'll see how this batch goes. And when it gets even cooler come wintertime then I'm sure I'll be using the heat pad.
 

jrp677

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Yeah I've got a heat pad. I use it to germinate my seeds. I hear a lot of people using them to clone. BUT....none of these people say what their ambient room temp is.
What temperature was the room/area that you had the heat pad in?
I'm convinced that my clones all failed this summer because it was too hot already. Definitely did not need a heat pad. Summer is over and its just now getting below 80 in my veg/clone area. I've read around 75-80 is a good temp for cloning and I'm there now so I'll see how this batch goes. And when it gets even cooler come wintertime then I'm sure I'll be using the heat pad.
I can't utilize the clone room I set up in my cabinet because the temps vary too much throughout the day. Recently we've had highs in the 70's with lows in the 30's. But during the summer the cabinet would get up to the 90's. I have to bring the bucket in doors where the temps are low 70's. With the light on it brings the temp to the upper 70's, just right. The right conditions are almost crucial for cuttings to root. I found that out the hard way this last summer when I opened the cabinet up and found that the cuttings had boiled to death. I just recently tried putting the bucket back in the cabinet but when I opened it up the other day it was obvious that the cold night temps were damaging them.

btw, I stopped by your journal, your buds are bigger than mine. :cry: I have a bad case of bud envy.:lol:
 

itsgrowinglikeaweed

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Yeah well I have root envy LOL. Wait till you see my quadzilla.
So you agree then about the upeer 70's being ideal. Because thats where I am now. I can add heat in the winter I just cant add cool in the summer. So I'm hopeing I'll be good to clone now. These rapid rooters are supposed to be the bomb.
 

jrp677

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Sorry for the delay on the updates. My camera crapped out on me the weekend before last and I have yet to buy a new one. I'll post new pics ASAP! :peace: OUT!
 

jrp677

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Today is day 14 of running my clone bucket with timed intervals of 15 min ON, 15 min OFF. This method proved to initiate root growth faster than running the bucket 24/7. After 1 week 3 of the cuttings were well rooted, 4 days later 2 other cuttings were ready. Only 1 of my cuttings is still in the bucket, the rest of the cuttings are planted and showing a little bit of new growth. :peace: OUT!
 

lighthouse

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Hey guys, can anyone tell me the difference between root heating pads from the hydo store and walmart? I have 8 white widow seedlings I'm having trouble keeping warm. Can i get a couple heating pads from walmart or does it have to be from the hydro store?
 

jrp677

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Any heating pad will do but most that I have come across have a 2 hour automatic shut-off, so I put mine on a timer to turn off just before the pad turned itself off and then the timer turns it on again 15 min later to go for an another 1 hr 45 min, 15 min off, and so on.
 

jrp677

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DAY 21 OF FLOWERING

Still haven't bought a new camera but I was able to borrow one for today's update.

Previously: Having ph issues which lockedup my ladies. The leaves were yellowing, spotty, and dying on the WR and BJ, the leaves on the PF were turning purple, curling up, and dying. I have been foliar feeding with Veg nutes to get the N levels up and have been watering with Flower Nutes to help get the P levels up.

Now: The plants seem to be adjusting slowly to the foliar feeding. All new growth on the PF looks great, the leaves on the WR and BJ are still a bit light green but I think we are on the path to recovery. I haven't seen any sign of spider mites since I started using the Hot Shots, bombed the area with pyrithrens, started using Azamax. Next friday 3 of the clones will be put into the flower room. My goal with this cabinet was to have a perpetual grow which included 6 plants constantly in flower, 3 of which would be 1 month apart from the other 3. All comments welcome. :peace: OUT!
 

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