First Indoor Auto Grow. Seedling advice please

Howdy all,
If this is in the wrong section my fault, did not know where to post.

First time grower here, did a shit tonne of research, set myself up, ready to go.....only to be discouraged or let down by my own mistakes. So im mainly after any advice, tips or tricks to help a newb out haha

Seeds:
- OG Kush Auto (Kera Seeds)
- Gelato Auto (Fast Buds)

Setup:
- Mars Hydro 1m x 1m x 1.8m tent
- Mars Hydro 4" inline fan with carbon filter (ducted to roof)
- Mars Hydro FC-E3000 300w LED
- Oscilating Fan
- old baby monitor
- AC Infinity CloudForge T3 V2 Humidifier

Growing Medium:
Green Planet Pro Coco Perlite (70/30)

Nutes:
All Nutrients are Emerald Harvest.
- Cali Pro Grow A & B
- Cali Pro Bloom A & B
- Emerald Goddess (plant tonic)
- King Kola (bloom booster)
- Honey Chome (aroma and resin enricher)

Both seeds sat in a starter kit with lid and they went good in there, as the true leave came i took the lid off and they grew a bit more.
Then as i researched i realised Autos hate transplanting.....but i did it anyway....first mistake. Into 17L Fabric pots... Once in they seamed un happy, i think i may of put a wee bit too much water in but ahh well first grow, gotta learn as i go.

They both kinda stopped.....then they started trying to tell me something.
OGK was starting to turn pale and droop.
Gelato severaly drooped and the top of the seedling started to bend over alot.... only to realise i had my LED set to fucking 100%
Poor little buggers i damn near cooked them.
That is my second lesson.
So raised the LED up around 600mm or 23" @ 45%.

So as it is Winter here in Australia, cold as fuck. So i then needed to heat my tent when lights are off....so temp solution was a fan heater....lecci bill is gonna be bad this month haha
"Day" Temps LED @ 50% + heater 24-26°C with rh @ 70%. Have since dropped that too 60% to help pots dry a little, and they are into 2nd week of seedling.
"Night" Temps 19-20°C with rh @ 60-70%

Tomorrow i pick up some more gear
Heat Tube, Thermostat, temp/hum. sensor, PH test pen, PH up, PH down.

Dug around the coco to see if still wet or not...top layer was dry but under was still a bit moist so i feel i may have it a bit wet....so pumping the heat when the lights are on to help dry it a little.....then i gave them a very light feed to see if they will purk up as both of them have yellow baby leaves.
I did a 50% mix of the manufactures guide and syringed them a few drops each 5-6ml.

My questions are.....can they recover from all the mistakes to date.... if so what can i do to give them a shot.
I have dismissed yeild expectations and more focused on this being a full cycle lesson so the next time around i will be more prepared with knowledge.

Thanks in advance, and excuse the novel, i am wired different by 4 letters, ADHD

Cheers

Hi mate! Welcome to roll it up! I'm not a super experienced grower, how ever maybe I can give you some advice with all the research and problemsI have had over the last 6 months or so. First of all I would check the EC of your tap water and what Coco are you using is it washed and pre buffered so you know? Also pH is critical when growing in Coco/hydro.. as for light I run my lights 24/7 and have my phone at 5.8 and they grow absolutely rapid. Also have a look to make sure you're vpd is in check for best results but I'm sure other on here will be able to give you more guidance here is a vpd chart for reference mate.

limp biffskit said:

Hi mate! Welcome to roll it up! I'm not a super experienced grower, how ever maybe I can give you some advice with all the research and problemsI have had over the last 6 months or so. First of all I would check the EC of your tap water and what Coco are you using is it washed and pre buffered so you know? Also pH is critical when growing in Coco/hydro.. as for light I run my lights 24/7 and have my phone at 5.8 and they grow absolutely rapid. Also have a look to make sure you're vpd is in check for best results but I'm sure other on here will be able to give you more guidance here is a vpd chart for reference mate.

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@limp biffskit
Thanks for replying
I have heard about EC, never really took too much notice, im trying to not over complicate it but so far im feeling over whelmed haha first time jitters i spose!!

As for the PH testing i will have my proper tester and up+down tomorrow, i have been just boiling the tap water and letting it sit. That could be a factor as well....
The coco perlite i am using comes pre washed and buffered so its good to go

Lights i do 18/6.... but they are autos so i guess does it really matter?? More for the sake of the elec bill lol

But so far on that chart im withing the ranges at least....will help when i get the tube heater in there

EC is just as important as your pH range mate. Check the EC of the water and use cal mag to raise the base to 0.45ec unless it's already in that range because Coco does suffer with cal mag issues. As for the lighting on autos 24hour is best because the veg period is absolutely critical as you are on a strict time like before the automatically change to flower. In which case you could potentially lower it back to 18/6 but the first 3 weeks or so are absolutely paramount alot of light and alot of feed will get you rapid result. These are my plants 32 days from sprout the big one is 70cm wide and 50cm tall she is absolutely fucking massive she was flipped in to flower at 28 days. Hope this gives you some insight and guidence. Message me if you like so I don't hack your thread

Hack away brother haha its all good i dont mind one bit.....more of a resource to go back to and take bits and pieces of everyones guidence then trail and error.....

But dang dude......that goes to show you experince over novice!!!

RDCustoms said:

Hack away brother haha its all good i dont mind one bit.....more of a resource to go back to and take bits and pieces of everyones guidence then trail and error.....

But dang dude......that goes to show you experince over novice!!!

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Iim still very much a novice I'm only on my second grow but theres a wealth of knowledge on here and man called wastei especially.

They looked starved for food and your coco looks dry.
Coco should be saturated at all times and you shouldn't use plain water.
Not transplanting autos is BS.......most auto growers transplant.
Starting with autos for your first grow was a mistake. Autos have a pre-determined life and any slow down in growth due to inexperience will adversely affect the end result. Autos are for experienced growers who can grow a plant from start to finish without problems.
You transplanted too early.........now maintaining the proper moisture level will be a challenge.
Not sure where you did your research, but it was wrong.
Try this for accurate information........cocoforcannabis.com.

My 2¢ - for a “ first indoor “ grow , maybe a simple bagged soil ( peat base ) ready to use medium would have cut out the initial issues with your grow.

Coco is a great grow method but requires a little more hands on work than a nute charged soil base.

Especially- for autos.

As stated- autos are hardwired to run from start to finish and any bumps in the road ( stress , overfeed , etc. ) can affect them. You can transplant , top and train them - they are much better than earlier autos from years ago.

A bagged medium ( soil ) would have covered all the feeding for most of its beginning life ( at least 4-5 weeks) depending on brand used- then simple recharge to that medium as plant depletes it.

Most autos only need about 100 days average.
Keep things simple.

That way you can get your feet wet.

Just my opinion and I've never grown an auto , but if you have more seeds I'd get them going and start over .

With autos it seems there isn't any leeway if there are issues . Photos are more forgiving in that you can keep them in veg while trying to correct mistakes .

Just what I would do if I had problems at this stage with an auto .

Budzbuddha said:

My 2¢ - for a “ first indoor “ grow , maybe a simple bagged soil ( peat base ) ready to use medium would have cut out the initial issues with your grow.

Coco is a great grow method but requires a little more hands on work than a nute charged soil base.

Especially- for autos.

As stated- autos are hardwired to run from start to finish and any bumps in the road ( stress , overfeed , etc. ) can affect them. You can transplant , top and train them - they are much better than earlier autos from years ago.

A bagged medium ( soil ) would have covered all the feeding for most of its beginning life ( at least 4-5 weeks) depending on brand used- then simple recharge to that medium as plant depletes it.

Most autos only need about 100 days average.
Keep things simple.

That way you can get your feet wet.

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I agree. And as small as they are he could (and probably should) still put them in soil.

Hey All,

Appreciate all your advice and info regarding this topic.... i have been putting some thought into maybe re-starting with new seeds like many have stated.

I feel that i was doomed from the start to be hounest....the way i tend to always learn by, which is rushing into things without being 100% prepared.... still have bits and pieces i need to get to be 100% ready again.

I like the idea of coco and being able to controll the nutes....my problem was i never started them on time...again all these points are possitives that i have already learnd from....

So keep an eye out soon i will re do and perhaps a grow diary

Appreciate all the help guys

Unga Bunga said:

Just my opinion and I've never grown an auto , but if you have more seeds I'd get them going and start over .

With autos it seems there isn't any leeway if there are issues . Photos are more forgiving in that you can keep them in veg while trying to correct mistakes .

Just what I would do if I had problems at this stage with an auto .

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And that is exactly what im going to do.....the autos caught me off guard too many times when i really want fully prepared...less forgiving..

The next 2 will be Feminised Photos

Budzbuddha said:

My 2¢ - for a “ first indoor “ grow , maybe a simple bagged soil ( peat base ) ready to use medium would have cut out the initial issues with your grow.

Coco is a great grow method but requires a little more hands on work than a nute charged soil base.

Especially- for autos.

As stated- autos are hardwired to run from start to finish and any bumps in the road ( stress , overfeed , etc. ) can affect them. You can transplant , top and train them - they are much better than earlier autos from years ago.

A bagged medium ( soil ) would have covered all the feeding for most of its beginning life ( at least 4-5 weeks) depending on brand used- then simple recharge to that medium as plant depletes it.

Most autos only need about 100 days average.
Keep things simple.

That way you can get your feet wet.

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100% truth. If you listen and use what information Budzbuddha is giving you, then you will have success. So many people get the idea autos are easy grows. In fact it is just the opposite. Autos give zero room for error. Photos on the other hand, if you stunt a photo you can still rebound. Autos are on the clock as soon as you germinate. Any mistakes on an auto will directly effect your yield. Budzbuddha is correct. K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid). GL!