coreywebster
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Chuck knows the score
Flushing
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Dr.Nick Riviera
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ahhh, the marijuana market, pump it full of expensive nutes, then flush them out with some of our miracle flusher.
Indacouch
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I'm puzzled about how ((Flushing)) takes the cake over a proper dry cure.
Growing takes some skill, but imvho it's by far NOT the hardest part ....or where I see most nice flowers go to complete shit.
Dry/Cure is what to this day gets my overwhelming attention/focus in the whole process from seed to grinder.
Lots of gardens lost when growers think they've hit the finish line at chop........I'm totally convinced these are the same people becoming overnight scientist......trying to make dabbles in there back yard with over dried or moldy flowers.....only to blow up the central portion of there friends moms apartment complex.
Dr. Who
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LOL....
Dr.Nick Riviera
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if you're making live resin, It does come out best when chopped, frozen,blasted. otherwise, if you're gonna smoke flowers, you gotta cure em.
Indacouch
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Ya I'm just talking about the people who fuck up the dry cure so bad they try to turn it into something else to sell((smh)).......which usually ends up in damaged apartment complexes,lots of burnt hair or at best a chemical filled product sold to like minded jelly heads as the best shit around.if you're making live resin, It does come out best when chopped, frozen,blasted. otherwise, if you're gonna smoke flowers, you gotta cure em.
Dr.Nick Riviera
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bird mcbride
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IMO the best way to flush is after the chop. I stick the cut butts of the plants in reverse osmosis water, with all the major fans removed. Be sure to slightly elevate the butts of the plants because sap is heavier and will sink to the bottom. The average budded snip sucks up about 1/2 liter of RO water in about a 24 hour period, which IMO is good enough. This does not cut into production time as the traditional flushes do. I feel much better with my buds drying with purified water in them than rez or tap water. It's worth the pocket change and a trip to a machine, IMO.
matt142857
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I never said I don't cure, but why not give it a flush if i want ey!
Dr. Who
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"Music plays" - Send me your money! Who's gunna be the new king of the fakers? Who's gunna be the new Nutrient flushing faker?ahhh, the marijuana market, pump it full of expensive nutes, then flush them out with some of our miracle flusher.
Send me your money!
Dr. Who
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Because it doesn't DO anything FOR removing ANY nutrient from a plant!
Waste of time. Raises pH to long. Removes nutrition from the plant at the bulking phase - one of the plants MOST important times!
If it means anything to you. I stop feed 4-5 days before the harvest in any feeding situation. There is enough nutrition left in the soil to comfortably carry it those 4-5 days.......I'm not attempting to remove anything from the plant - Simply saving $ by not using feed when I don't have to.
Doesn't work that way either!
In hydro, your only removing nutrition when the plant can still use it....
I have never been able to wrap my head around removing nutrition for the last 2 (and most important time) weeks - at the bulking phase.....Hell I run longer anyway - counting weeks is as stupid as flushing - It's done when IT'S done......
Look out, attitude day!
Roger A. Shrubber
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you can if you want to, they're your plants, and you can do anything you want to to them.
there are people here who have been doing this a long time. some of these guys have been at it 20+ years.
i've been growing inside for 3 years, and before that, i grew outside every summer for half my life. i grew up on a farm, grew potatoes, corn, soybeans, sugar beets, so i'm not a botanist, but i have taken botany 1 and 2, and i grew up around fertilizers, pesticides, and plants. we had a small farm compared to our neighbors, only 350 acres, about a half mile square. but it was still a farm, and used the same methods and products as all the other farms. not once in the entire time i was growing up did i ever hear one farmer talking about flushing a crop, of any kind, ever. one time after a flood, when something bad washed onto our neighbors field, he LEECHED the field by irrigating it for 2 days, then amending it.
i remember that he had to use a formula something like
LR=ECw / (ECe) -ECw , then you have to find how much water you need with another formula that includes how much water the present crop requires, how much it will take to leech the field......here, i looked this up because my memory sucks
http://www.fao.org/DOCReP/003/T0234e/T0234E03.htm
this ^ IS science, bro....and they have never used it to remove anything from a PLANT, they use it to remove excess salt build up or contaminants from a FIELD......
So i can see the scenario...guy grew up on the farm, goes to work at ANC, they ask him "how can we sell more useless shit to people for 100 times what it worth? we already have them buying Jack's mixed with water, we separated it all out into 10 different bottles so they have to buy them all, we made the charts so its so hot it'll burn a stone...what else can we talk these idiots into buying?"....."hmmm, well, its complete and total bullshit, but we could convince them that we're pumping so much nasty shit into their plants that they need to remove some of it...that doesn't work at all, mind you, physically impossible, but you could sell them a bottle with ro water and just enough salts to make it smell like something, then convince them that it will remove all the other toxic shit that we've been pumping into their plants...we could call it ......FLUSHING.....since thats what they'll be doing with their money!"
there are people here who have been doing this a long time. some of these guys have been at it 20+ years.
i've been growing inside for 3 years, and before that, i grew outside every summer for half my life. i grew up on a farm, grew potatoes, corn, soybeans, sugar beets, so i'm not a botanist, but i have taken botany 1 and 2, and i grew up around fertilizers, pesticides, and plants. we had a small farm compared to our neighbors, only 350 acres, about a half mile square. but it was still a farm, and used the same methods and products as all the other farms. not once in the entire time i was growing up did i ever hear one farmer talking about flushing a crop, of any kind, ever. one time after a flood, when something bad washed onto our neighbors field, he LEECHED the field by irrigating it for 2 days, then amending it.
i remember that he had to use a formula something like
LR=ECw / (ECe) -ECw , then you have to find how much water you need with another formula that includes how much water the present crop requires, how much it will take to leech the field......here, i looked this up because my memory sucks
http://www.fao.org/DOCReP/003/T0234e/T0234E03.htm
this ^ IS science, bro....and they have never used it to remove anything from a PLANT, they use it to remove excess salt build up or contaminants from a FIELD......
So i can see the scenario...guy grew up on the farm, goes to work at ANC, they ask him "how can we sell more useless shit to people for 100 times what it worth? we already have them buying Jack's mixed with water, we separated it all out into 10 different bottles so they have to buy them all, we made the charts so its so hot it'll burn a stone...what else can we talk these idiots into buying?"....."hmmm, well, its complete and total bullshit, but we could convince them that we're pumping so much nasty shit into their plants that they need to remove some of it...that doesn't work at all, mind you, physically impossible, but you could sell them a bottle with ro water and just enough salts to make it smell like something, then convince them that it will remove all the other toxic shit that we've been pumping into their plants...we could call it ......FLUSHING.....since thats what they'll be doing with their money!"
Dr. Who
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Roger A. Shrubber
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science and religion should be separate, until we gain the wisdom to see how they work together
CannaBruh
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there was analogous meaning behind my statement that I think you missed, what I was getting at is be respectful and keep the discussion civil regardless if you think less of people who believe other than you, simple really. There is no science behind why I prefer my smoke the way I do, it's through observation and anecdotal evidence that I continue to do this way and haven't bought into the many methods I have tried, boiling, feed to end etc.
Dr.Nick Riviera
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suicidal tendencies, i had it going in my head,lol