Fuck Tilray

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Start date Aug 25, 2014

leaffan

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#21

Yessica... said:
I'm a lover not a fighter...no good...

I didn't think MMJ was covered by ANY insurance companies? Am I wrong?

The CCIC and most notably Bedrocan are pushing for insurance coverage. There is coverage in Holland where Bedrocan is from. I believe PPS is also pushing this effort. Coverage without a DIN is a challenge.

In your case you are not getting your other meds covered, so you're not "poor" enough for govt assistance even if there was some coverage program. It's hard to envision the Govt ever offering coverage for mmj, just imagine how many would "sign up". Very expensive proposal.

Private insurance is a different story. When the cost of paying for mmj is substantially lower than other pain meds, and there is a clear savings for said company I think you will see coverage happening more than it is now.

Yes there is some coverage from insurance companies now. You won't read about it, but it is happening to a limited degree. Auto insurance claims seem to be somewhat leaders here. I'm guessing 2-3 years and it will be common place.

Yessica...

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#22

leaffan said:
The CCIC and most notably Bedrocan are pushing for insurance coverage. There is coverage in Holland where Bedrocan is from. I believe PPS is also pushing this effort. Coverage without a DIN is a challenge.

In your case you are not getting your other meds covered, so you're not "poor" enough for govt assistance even if there was some coverage program. It's hard to envision the Govt ever offering coverage for mmj, just imagine how many would "sign up". Very expensive proposal.

Private insurance is a different story. When the cost of paying for mmj is substantially lower than other pain meds, and there is a clear savings for said company I think you will see coverage happening more than it is now.

Yes there is some coverage from insurance companies now. You won't read about it, but it is happening to a limited degree. Auto insurance claims seem to be somewhat leaders here. I'm guessing 2-3 years and it will be common place.

Oh - I have always been "poor" enough.

Alas, with my mental health problems, picking up the phone and talking to ANYONE during my worst times - was actually not a possibility.

And now - YAY - I am finally on my boyfriend's benefits - for the first time since I have been in school. I do not know if they cover MMJ (probably not) but it never hurts to ask!

I did also start to read what is now Party Policy in the Liberal Party for their Legalization of Marijuana plan.

There's a lot of good ideas in there....
https://bc.liberal.ca/files/2013/01/DRAFT-Marijuana-Policy-Paper-Jan-13.pdf

They voted on this in March, 2014 - and this is their stance on Marijuana, and what they propose to do.

I asked!

leaffan

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#23

Yessica... said:
Oh - I have always been "poor" enough.

Alas, with my mental health problems, picking up the phone and talking to ANYONE during my worst times - was actually not a possibility.

And now - YAY - I am finally on my boyfriend's benefits - for the first time since I have been in school. I do not know if they cover MMJ (probably not) but it never hurts to ask!

I did also start to read what is now Party Policy in the Liberal Party for their Legalization of Marijuana plan.

There's a lot of good ideas in there....
https://bc.liberal.ca/files/2013/01/DRAFT-Marijuana-Policy-Paper-Jan-13.pdf

They voted on this in March, 2014 - and this is their stance on Marijuana, and what they propose to do.

I asked!

Please post that policy in a new thread, it's too important to be buried here...ty

leaffan

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#24

too funny....good for you. you already did it

Yessica...

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#25

leaffan said:
Please post that policy in a new thread, it's too important to be buried here...ty

I'm on it - done and done!

It actually has surprisingly good ideas, in my opinion. It's like they TALKED to a real life patient or ANYONE before writing it.

Unlike the MMPR - whoever wrote that must have just picked ideas out of thin air...

leaffan

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#26

Don't kid yourself, the MMPR was well thought out by a few people. They spent years getting that program ready.

Yessica...

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#27

leaffan said:
Don't kid yourself, the MMPR was well thought out by a few people. They spent years getting that program ready.

TRUE. Just not thought out by anyone that gives a fuck about people - only people that care about being elected and about money.

Yessica...

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#28

Not that JT doesn't care about being elected. But at least he's fucking smart about it - and they wrote a plan that actually sounds doable. AND like it could help people!

leaffan

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#29

Yessica... said:
TRUE. Just not thought out by anyone that gives a fuck about people - only people that care about being elected and about money.

Bingo!

leaffan

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#30

Yessica... said:
Not that JT doesn't care about being elected. But at least he's fucking smart about it - and they wrote a plan that actually sounds doable. AND like it could help people!

I think in most cases it is JT's advisers. The team behind the man.

Jackal69

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#31

leaffan said:
The CCIC and most notably Bedrocan are pushing for insurance coverage. There is coverage in Holland where Bedrocan is from. I believe PPS is also pushing this effort. Coverage without a DIN is a challenge.

In your case you are not getting your other meds covered, so you're not "poor" enough for govt assistance even if there was some coverage program. It's hard to envision the Govt ever offering coverage for mmj, just imagine how many would "sign up". Very expensive proposal.

Private insurance is a different story. When the cost of paying for mmj is substantially lower than other pain meds, and there is a clear savings for said company I think you will see coverage happening more than it is now.

Yes there is some coverage from insurance companies now. You won't read about it, but it is happening to a limited degree. Auto insurance claims seem to be somewhat leaders here. I'm guessing 2-3 years and it will be common place.

the only reason an LP would be in on this, is if..... they wanted all their customers to complete their full script not just what they can afford...... it's a selfish reason and has nothing to do with them trying to be helpful!!!

How many patients even on this forum can afford their full script every month? not many ..... so if this is the norm because price per gram is too high ..... why not try and push for insurance to pick up the tab and have LP's make more money.
While it's great that insurance might pay one day but LP's shouldn't be involved as it's conflicting interest because it's only for them not the patients.

leaffan

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#32

I think the motive for the LPs is pretty obvious, and it isn't you they are thinking of!

Jackal69

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#33

leaffan said:
I think the motive for the LPs is pretty obvious, and it isn't you they are thinking of!

ya huh ... oh how's the nico vapin'? quit yet?

leaffan

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#34

Jackal69 said:
ya huh ... oh how's the nico vapin'? quit yet?

Haven't had a smoke in ...gezzzz...a month?....I've dropped down to 1.2%nic and everything is going good so far.

Jackal69

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#35

god damn man, I'm strugglin' maybe I need the vape of antifreeze and other chems. LOL just such a dodgey way if it anit regulated whats inside of the nic"juice"

leaffan

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#36

Jackal69 said:
god damn man, I'm strugglin' maybe I need the vape of antifreeze and other chems. LOL just such a dodgey way if it anit regulated whats inside of the nic"juice"

I was just too pissed off to buy another pack....so went with a healthier choice as I'm too weak to go cold turkey.
True it's not regulated, but it is HUGE business, so the people in it are doing it right.
3-4 ingredients...food grade; vg vegetable glycerin, pg propylene glycol....50/50 or 70/30 mix, flavour extract, and nicotine if you want it.
It's not dodgey really, it's political like everything else. Tons of $ up for grabs 80billion worldwide

j0yr1d3

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#37

You can buy shitty disposable e-cigs here now at the gas stations and stuff so regulations are coming. Government just has to figure out how to get their greedy paws in the game.

leaffan

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#38

j0yr1d3 said:
You can buy shitty disposable e-cigs here now at the gas stations and stuff so regulations are coming. Government just has to figure out how to get their greedy paws in the game.

SmokeNV has the bulk of that business...yep the govt has got to figure out how to get $ from this new industry.

Big Pauly

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#39

leaffan said:
I was just too pissed off to buy another pack....so went with a healthier choice as I'm too weak to go cold turkey.
True it's not regulated, but it is HUGE business, so the people in it are doing it right.
3-4 ingredients...food grade; vg vegetable glycerin, pg propylene glycol....50/50 or 70/30 mix, flavour extract, and nicotine if you want it.
It's not dodgey really, it's political like everything else. Tons of $ up for grabs 80billion worldwide

Not being a smartass but you missed two ingredients...color and cancer causing sucralose (sweetener). Then as jackle remarked, "...what's 'really' in that juice"

On the ECF forums ppl are complaining about pimples on there skin, sores in the mouth, dry skin and a host of other shit. Ya, I've been using them since 2006. I made 7 years worth of 'clean' juice back in 2007 when the gov't didn't even know what an e-cig was.

Alright, back to bitching!

leaffan

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#40

Big Pauly said:
Not being a smartass but you missed two ingredients...color and cancer causing sucralose (sweetener). Then as jackle remarked, "...what's 'really' in that juice"

On the ECF forums ppl are complaining about pimples on there skin, sores in the mouth, dry skin and a host of other shit. Ya, I've been using them since 2006. I made 7 years worth of 'clean' juice back in 2007 when the gov't didn't even know what an e-cig was.

Alright, back to bitching!

Thanks for the info...I haven't seen too many "bad reviews", but I guess it's like most things eh; there's good ones and not so good ones.
Even the bad ones have to be better than smoking I'd think.

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