twostrokenut
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translating............
"phone data limit throttled and i didn't serve in nam"
Fvcking Baby Boomer Hippies Wrecked America
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translating............
"phone data limit throttled and i didn't serve in nam"
abandonconflict
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Most of the veterans I know don't tell stories. I have heard of the zeitgeist of postwar 70s. I'm not saying it never happened, I'm saying that there is a lot more talk than what actually happened. If we're going to disagree it's fine but at least let's know what we are disagreeing with.
It's like the narrative is controlled by the guys who want to be treated like heroes and the actual heroes want to forget it. I don't really believe the ones doing all the talking. I believe the ones who helped establish the antiwar veterans group that I was a founding member of.
The same sort of thing has repeated itself. Pogues have their communities convinced that they single handedly won major battles and actual combat vets hate to be tagged in veterans day click bait.
This sort of nonsense is one of the hurdles to dealing with problems like veteran alcoholism, addiction, legal delinquency, homelessness and so forth. Sniveling in a corner because someone didn't exalt you as a returning hero doesn't solve a damn thing. Suck it up. If anyone really wants to see vets get honored, they should see them getting those actual problems solved.
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Yes, I'm telling you to get over it, respectfully, trooper.
doublejj
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so your best advice is "get over it"?......thanks that has always helped
Grandpapy
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Same attitude as the Manufacturers of Agent Orange.
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PungentPete
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You know what i say about the title of this thread.. Fvck you!
abandonconflict
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Not really.
I'm saying stop whinging about antiwar protesters supposedly failing to give you the respect you think they owe you. Sorry about the stabbing of your brother, but I don't say that as if I had some part in it just because an antiwar protester supposedly did it. That stabbing was clearly not some extravagant act by an antiwar group.
On the other hand, Monsanto does have to answer for the profit they made from the chemicals that caused so much suffering.
Grandpapy
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To believe PSTD only sets in on the Battlefield is, well,.
I haven't seen a penny, and they just got a Tax cut.
abandonconflict
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This has almost nothing to do with my comment. PTSD is very real but antiwar protesters are not the ones traumatizing tens of thousands of soldiers per year.
Wars do that.
Grandpapy
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When it easier to pull the esophagus out of a fellow man then step off a plane in your home state, you could blame it on war. I don't blame you for the death of my cousin, Pot smoking peace and love hippies dont murder.
I blame it on not funding public understanding, (or the corporation that obtained/absorbed that war expense.) after all, education is expensive
Tell me, what is the value to a nation of a man handing down love and understanding to his Grandchildren?
Vietnam is still in my life. I'll just suck it up. Why change if it doesn't effect you, right?
I'm just glad Russia and China waited till Trump came along to fuck with our democracy.
Remember when Nixon went to prison?
There's a lot truth in comedy @17:00 & 23:00 if you read between the lines.
Rob Roy
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It's not about respect being owed. I don't know anyone asking that. It's about being disrespected for putting their/our lives on the line in the name of country.
Rob Roy
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On a scale of 0 - 10 about how likely do you think the USA was in danger of being invaded by Viet Nam in the 1960s?
It seems evident defending "country" was not the reason for that war. The soldiers put their lives on the line because they had been effectively sold a lie. Also many who were drafted went because they were under threat of losing their freedom, if they did not pursue the goals of the liars.
I'm not disagreeing, but... So its either go to jail or go to war and come home to be spit on and disrepected?
Rob Roy
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The honorable thing to do would have been not to obey, but as you point out disobedience in the USA is punishable by jail and possibly death if a person continues to act as if they own themselves.
UncleBuck
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you would have told ali that he was not allowed to eat lunch at the same counter as whites thoughThe honorable thing to do would have been not to obey, but as you point out disobedience in the USA is punishable by jail and possibly death if a person continues to act as if they own themselves.
tangerinegreen555
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Who wants to play No Trumps?
Cards with quotes from Trump and others, you decide if Trump said it.
It's not easy. One of Trump's quotes:
"The Democrats handle the economy better than republicans"
Before his lying fake news phase.
Cards with quotes from Trump and others, you decide if Trump said it.
It's not easy. One of Trump's quotes:
"The Democrats handle the economy better than republicans"
Before his lying fake news phase.
