God, The Bible And How We Should Believe It?

Well i believe god is as real as a giant spaghetti monster up in the sky. Really the i know for a fact that the bible was made to control the simple minded. Like in America, they tell you to join the army to defend freedom, peace, and god. Well there is no freedom in a place where you cant posses a plant that is the safest thing in the world, and well if there is a god then where is he? Same thing in Israel, they use the Allah BS to get they dudes to blow up stuff. Mabey the bible is something to be used lightly and maybe live our life down here the best as possible so it is heaven on ear.

Alot of religious freaks are the worst hypocrites, my uncles mother in law would turn you against god. She talks about its evil to have pride, when she buys the most expensive clothes she can find and only wear them to church. Diamond earrings, diamond rings, fur jackets, etc. I hate religion. Tell me what you think.

There is a song by Jack Johnson called Gone Going...Its about humans and materialistic ways. I think that people tend to forget what we can and can't go with you when your time is done on this planet. I dont think I hate Religion, but I believe its raw evil. I also believe that its not for everyone. I think thus far its done more harm than good. I also think that science has proven the probabilities to be extremely nil of the actual exsistence of any god. Stephen Hawking has actual recently developed through theoretical physics that it is absolutely impossible that this planet was created by a "god" or anything "humanly". Just cause other refuse the facts of Mr. Hawkings finding does not negate their factuality. In his 50 years of science he has shown that our species started spontaneously and out of science....not godly creations.

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we (humans) are gods and devils the way i see it.

lately i've been leaning to think that the bible isn't meant to be taken literally, but sort of symbolically. i've been reading some things on the gnostics lately, which is interesting to say the least.
i find it weird that the roman catholic to be the biggest christian denomination and yet it was the romans that killed christ. if you believe the whole thing that is. still weird even if you dont believe. that would be like america becoming communist, or instituting a king.

just go take some history classes. the bible wasnt even written till long after jesus was around. if jesus was around today hed be on our terror watch list and wed all think he was crazy. he led one of the many cults at the time. and now we think hes the son of god? give me a break , he might have been a good man but the son of god? come on now. god just magically inseminating mary? no way <- if i was joseph id be making sure i just recently banged my wife or looking for the guy who did because it sure wasnt god. and the way we think of christianity is WAY different now. the catholic church has had hundreds of years to make religion be what they want it to be. they have meetings to decide what they will believe and what they wont (all while banging little kids and being the most greedyn rich sons of bitches in the world that jesus would definately not approve of) the pope ? the vatican? what is that bullshit? jesus didnt have a fucking pope this was all made up by assholes after his time. they pick and chose what books would be in the bible. the whole way we look at christianty has been fucked. lots of people have become very wealthy using this thing we now call christianty, and a lot of people have died because it. muslims arent the only one who kill people , christians have killed shit tons of people. i dont remember jesus ever saying to go out spread my word and get a percentage of everyones paycheck for it. it wasnt supposed to be this way.

The Romans hijacked christianity after they killed The philosopher Jesus Christ. Who was in reality a con artist. The Roman Catholic church then revised the original version of the testament removing any reference to Jesus disliking "God". The original new testament was edited by the catholic church.

Religion is social control that is outdated. First set of laws.

andar said:

just go take some history classes. the bible wasnt even written till long after jesus was around. if jesus was around today hed be on our terror watch list and wed all think he was crazy. he led one of the many cults at the time. and now we think hes the son of god? give me a break , he might have been a good man but the son of god? come on now. god just magically inseminating mary? no way <- if i was joseph id be making sure i just recently banged my wife or looking for the guy who did because it sure wasnt god. and the way we think of christianity is WAY different now. the catholic church has had hundreds of years to make religion be what they want it to be. they have meetings to decide what they will believe and what they wont (all while banging little kids and being the most greedyn rich sons of bitches in the world that jesus would definately not approve of) the pope ? the vatican? what is that bullshit? jesus didnt have a fucking pope this was all made up by assholes after his time. they pick and chose what books would be in the bible. the whole way we look at christianty has been fucked. lots of people have become very wealthy using this thing we now call christianty, and a lot of people have died because it. muslims arent the only one who kill people , christians have killed shit tons of people. i dont remember jesus ever saying to go out spread my word and get a percentage of everyones paycheck for it. it wasnt supposed to be this way.

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to say the bible was written after jesus is a false statement. the old testament, which is the tanakh, was written well before jesus. the tanakh is what the jewish people used for worship, and jesus because he was of course a jew, according to the texts. but i pretty much agree with everything else you said.

Balzac89 said:

The Romans hijacked christianity after they killed The philosopher Jesus Christ. Who was in reality a con artist. The Roman Catholic church then revised the original version of the testament removing any reference to Jesus disliking "God". The original new testament was edited by the catholic church.

Religion is social control that is outdated. First set of laws.

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yes they did hijack it. they were pagans before christ and even now. with the trinity, and rosary, having idols like magdeline, praying to her and others and not god, then there the whole christmas and easter thing. then their rituals at mass or w/e. they totally bastardized everything christ supposedly stood for.

Fuck religion. Shit makes people so fake. Be yourself.

i grew up in a "christian" house both parents very religious , but as soon as i could make my own decision not to attend church i chucked it. religion felt to me even as a 12 13 + 14 year old lad that it was a method of control and the tool was the bible. i live in n.ireland and the whole conflict here was religious, catholics against protestants nearly all wars are. unless its for oil lol. i dont believe we have to follow a religion to be a good person its how we act and feel about ourselves. one more point with all the religions in the world today they cant all be correct one is the religion and all the rest are doomed that is if there is a supreme being! do your own thing keep your conscience clear and smoke plenty of mary she'l keep u rite lol ..

Balzac89 said:

Fuck religion. Shit makes people so fake. Be yourself.

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I have to agree my recent ex forced me to fake believing in religon he's christian and I had a tendancy to say god damn a lot he would flip just scream at me how I shouldn't take the lords name in vain finally I just played along kept my mouth shut hey we all have different beliefs but backing down on my views of religion imo was what started 3yrs of being someone I was not I despise religion I've studied the religions of mormons,jews,catholic,christians,seventh day aventist,buddism and I feel 90 percent of it is all crap buddism is the only one I have any agreence with and that is not for their views but for meditation I say screw religion I'm with the potoligist and hawking

It's just disrespectful to push your own beliefs on anyone. Humans are basically good. We all have our own intentions however.

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this is just how far organized religion can go.

Balzac89 said:

It's just disrespectful to push your own beliefs on anyone. Humans are basically good. We all have our own intentions however.

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I completely agree nobody should have to feel like they must accept anothers views its great I can express my views again

i have been brought up a christian and personaly believe in God and the bible. i know alot of people dont believe but the bible encourages good actions between people so is that such a bad thing...also i find it comforting knowing that we all can have a chance to go to a place where their is no evil when we die...im not disrespcting what others belive just stating what i believe in

Religion is slowly dying. With infinite knowledge at our fingertips, who believes there's a man in the sky watching us? It was said earlier, first set of laws with a story behind them.

boydy said:

i have been brought up a christian and personaly believe in God and the bible. i know alot of people dont believe but the bible encourages good actions between people so is that such a bad thing...also i find it comforting knowing that we all can have a chance to go to a place where their is no evil when we die...im not disrespcting what others belive just stating what i believe in

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I am not attempting to disrespect your views/beliefs, but I would just like to point out that the bible does have some things that encourage good actions, but there is ALSO A ASSLOAD of crap in the bible that encourages evil...How to treat your slaves, how to offer sacrafice, how to punish, what to do if billbob is caught wankin your ol lady...stuff like that...."Where there is Good, There is Evil" --Aristotle.....I think that with the acceptance of good you inherit evil. Its ying and yang. I dont picture a heaven all sorts of pretty as some people do. I accept the laws of science and mathmatical probability over blind faith, nothing personal. I believe in fact over fiction. Just my views.

I was forced to grow up a Catholic. I rejected Religion at the age of 21. I, like Balzac, believe that its total disrespect to push upon another your religious beliefs. I believe that any attempt to convert a non-believer or another faith based believer to ones religion is grander than murder. And should carry consequences that are equal to that of modern day murder punishment.

I am with the potologist as well. Stephan Hawking is truely amazing. His years and years of work have really awakened scientific people. I recently read a story that the Vatican covered up a assasination attempt on Hawking if he was to ever release his publications that scientifically prove that the probability of the exsistence of a "god" or "godly creator of humans" is completely impossible.( which he did release anyways) Not just in Theoretical Physics but other parts of Science, I have learned that evidence points in the direction of Hawkings laws of Spontanious Creation and Evolution.

I don't think there is anything wrong with religion except for those using it for their own personal gain. I find it amazing how close some of these religions are to each other(christianity, islam, buddhism...). There are alot of gaps in the bible that are hard to explain but the scientific "big bang theory" does not really do it for me either. The bible is 66 books written by 40 different people over 2000 years, and has some great consistency to it. Nothing wrong with believing in God, I guess if your wrong you did nothing but try to live a good life, If your right eternal happiness.

lol i like the end of the above statement...i think one of the main things that discourage pepz from religion are the hipacrits (spelling fails lol) who represent a religion but dont live by it...eg some of the irish priests

dmajors said:

I don't think there is anything wrong with religion except for those using it for their own personal gain. I find it amazing how close some of these religions are to each other(christianity, islam, buddhism...). There are alot of gaps in the bible that are hard to explain but the scientific "big bang theory" does not really do it for me either. The bible is 66 books written by 40 different people over 2000 years, and has some great consistency to it. Nothing wrong with believing in God, I guess if your wrong you did nothing but try to live a good life, If your right eternal happiness.

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Just wanted to add that the "Big Bang" is a extremely plausable ( moreso than a fictional faith) theory in science. Moreso, its a model for Black Holes, which are facts of Physics. Its just one of the possible ways of earths creation through a Black Hole. Mr. Hawking has successful proven the beginning and development of Earth through a Super Massive Black Hole about 13.7-9 Billion years ago. These models which prove the creation of Earth through a Black Hole, which in my opinion, has alot more credibility to it than a book written by 40 different people over a period of 2000 years. The holes and inconsistencies of the bible are very much so less plausable than laws of Physics. It all started without any doubt in a Super Massive Black Hole. How it took form out of these Massive Black Holes still has some realitive inconsistencies but very much so plausable theories such as the Big Bang. There are other theories that work in conjunction with Black Holes, but in my opinion, and in great consideration of the laws of Physics....I believe that a "Big Bang" out of a black hole makes the most logic as of yet. In most scenario's of Physics, when there is energy( especially large amounts) there is spontanious creation and events(effects of mass energy)

Even in light of the acceptance of Black Holes and such, one is not to say that Black Holes are not godly creations. One who perhaps controls all creation in all galaxies, regardless of finites. However, along with Mr. Hawking, the probabilities that a "god" created Black Holes and formed Earth and its creatures is Zero. Laws of Physics create Black Holes...Not a "god", is my view. Especially a god that waited some thousand(s) of years to appear before man on earth to preach and save his children from the earth he created. Which is doomed in more way than one. If god is perfect ( which most religions say he is) than why make a world that is not perfect and has a doomed fate. Planet Earth is doomed in many many ways, and who knows which one will take its toll first. Regardless, I applaud the laws of Physics that show Earth and Sun destroying one another over the faith that some sort of Holy Armageddon is awaiting or approaching before all other doomed fates take effect.

Lastly, I agree with you to a point. There is nothing wrong(although there is some harm in degrees) with believing in a "God". However, I believe its more beneficial to believe in the Laws of Science over fictional ( as of yet) faith.
I think that following a faith just to lead a "good life" is a waste. We each have to face death. We all only get one life. I would much rather be myself and find out for myself than let some book tell me what happened( that was written by 40 different people) and what to expect, just to have it all be false. I personally dont want to live a "good life"...I just want to live my "own life"....which has its place as far away from religious belief as possible. Also, if your "wrong in faith"....IMO, one just wasted his whole life for the sake of mankinds false books that preach to know all the awnsers and all of mankinds fate. To me, thats a utter waste of life.

PS...Here are the 7 Accepted FACTS of the "Big Bang Theory"

- The universe is 13.7-9 Billion years old
- All the matter in the universe used to be very close together (very dense)( as in a black hole)
- The universe used to be a very uniform cloud of energy/mass despite it being very clumpy today (galaxies being those clumps)
- Space began to expand and pushed matter apart
- The expansion of space is accelerating
- In the beginning the universe was so hot all the universal forces (gravitation, electromagnetism, etc.) were one force
-The accelerating expansion of the universe will one day spread galaxies so far apart we will not be able to see them because the light leaving them will constantly have new space created in front of it

... thats seven =)......There are 221 Laws and/or Models of Physics that support these 7 facts

Dont mind religion or people who belive in that crap as long as they don't come knocking on my door or try push thier views on me.. If they choose that life thats thier problem.
Every religion has blood on its hands to many people have died because of genocides and wars over it and. Goverments'kings the pope etc you name it' USE religion to thier own advantage.