God, The Bible And How We Should Believe It?

Hayduke

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mindphuk

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so i guess it also makes sense for 12 people to write about someone, real or fake, teach about him and possibly die for him also. i dunno about you but i wouldn't make something up and be a martyr all for a quick dollar. christianity wasn't even a centralized church till the romans came in 300 years later. no telling how many how many texts they burnt.
First, there is absolutely no evidence that anyone that personally knew Jesus wrote anything. Second, what you have done is create a straw man -- is it more likely that Christianity came about organically based on legends like most every other religion or that a group of people came together and said "lets create a new religion?"

Divine parentage back in that time period were a sign commonly associated with that of a king. It is well established in Egyptian, Babylonian, Assyrian and even Greek and Roman mythos. It is very likely Matthew, most likely writing in Greek for other gentile, non-Hebrew speakers, knew these stories and not able to read Hebrew very well mistranslated Isaiah 7:14. He ignored the fact (or just didn't know Hebrew that well) that Isaiah 7 had absolutely nothing to do with the messiah but instead was a prophecy concerning King Ahaz of Judah and was relevant only during his lifetime. It could not have been about Jesus.

The earlier writings of Mark and John as well as Paul's letters never once mention a virgin conception
 

Hayduke

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In case anyone has not seen this stuff...

[youtube]BNf-P_5u_Hw&feature=related[/youtube]

and...
[youtube]qc-mrJf45Hg&feature=iv[/youtube]

and don't miss this...
[youtube]IjAegPhQOUg&feature=iv[/youtube]

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blazin256

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who decided dec 25? romans. what were romans before "christians"? pagans. why did romans pick this date? to paganize it to get more followers. dec 25 is never mentioned in the bible, in fact no date is. a more accurate date would be spring or fall, according to scripture.
one of zeitgeist's source come from gerald massey, a "self taught" egyptologist. but according to real egyptologists, horus date of birth is early august.
it behooves us all to not trust anything we see or hear without proper research. good movie though, very entertaining.
[video=youtube;D7GgWOi4SQM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7GgWOi4SQM[/video]
 

Hayduke

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who decided dec 25? romans. what were romans before "christians"? pagans. why did romans pick this date? to paganize it to get more followers. dec 25 is never mentioned in the bible, in fact no date is. a more accurate date would be spring or fall, according to scripture.
one of zeitgeist's source come from gerald massey, a "self taught" egyptologist. but according to real egyptologists, horus date of birth is early august.
it behooves us all to not trust anything we see or hear without proper research. good movie though, very entertaining.
[video=youtube;D7GgWOi4SQM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7GgWOi4SQM[/video]
The bible does not say it...it says the Sun dies on the cross and born again 3 days later...and the birth of the Sun is announced by the alignment of the "three kings" with Sirius in the constellation Virgo (Bethlehem)...I'll actually watch your vid though as nothing in my reality is threatened ;)

And your right about it behooving us to do our research!!! cuz believing any of the bullshit written in either of the 2 testaments or the koran is freaking dangerous.

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mindphuk

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You know, I think I posted this before after seeing the umpteenth post of the Zeitgeist videos. I mentioned these as well as the criticism should be stickied here in the SSP forum. A good skeptic always remembers to be just as skeptical of claims that might support their personal beliefs and biases. Those videos have many outright factual errors mixed in with some half-truths and then sprinkled with commonly accepted scholarly facts to give it an air of legitimacy.
 

Hayduke

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You know, I think I posted this before after seeing the umpteenth post of the Zeitgeist videos. I mentioned these as well as the criticism should be stickied here in the SSP forum. A good skeptic always remembers to be just as skeptical of claims that might support their personal beliefs and biases. Those videos have many outright factual errors mixed in with some half-truths and then sprinkled with commonly accepted scholarly facts to give it an air of legitimacy.
Sounds like...religion...sorry to post them, the devil made me do it ;)

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