Got help? Thrips, gnats and sick queen

Ok so here are my poblems.. im gonna start with the most pressing issue as it is turning fatal!!

so first the rundown on my queens they are 2 years old which is why i decided to flower them.. (yea i know they are to old mistake 1)

so i clonned them and placed them right into flower (mistake 2) but they were taking up space and needed to go..

pics speak for themself my leaves have been yellowing and dieing off for several weeks b4 i cloned them.. but now that they are in flower and not producing new leaves im worried that buds will suffer..

my guess is 1 could it be gnats and or thrips have taken over the roots and killing my leaves that way or 2 have the plants just gotten too big for there home.. (@ this phase im not going to transplant so i need a bandaid people) im three weeks into flower now, and plants are using tons of water..

ph temp and all that are good.. i am using an RO system for water.. and feeding the queens and younglings the same water which is 600ppm bloom and stay green supernatural brand nutes .. im gonna add super thrive to the mix next res change..

any suggestions please please please!!! they have been so kind to me..

as for her younglings i got gnats for sure and what i think is "thrips".. tiny fast little worm like critters that leave a snail like mark on the leaves. if you look close to the leaves you can almost tell by the pics..

what can i do these tiny fucks have declared war on my whole garden.. and i have never yet been face to face with such a determined enemy'zzzz them frickn knats are a pain also just not as destructive..

PLEASE HELP!

also i forgot to mention my queens are grown in hydrotron rocks in a rubbermaid bin and her younglings are grown in rockwool on a table..

sorry to hear.dont look all that bad on the closeup.cant really see the snail trails,but the yellow leaves are def noticable..........bugs suck.........stay outta my room-j/k

If you want a great all purpose insecticide that is organic look for anything with SPINOSAD as an active ingredient.

Spinosad is the only sure fire way of ridding yourself of Thrips.

BUt it also kills many other pests whilst not harming many other beneficial insects.

I personally use CONSERVE NATURALYTE as per pic below.

I live in the UK and cannot get SPINOSAD in any products here which is why i order it from the USA from ebay.

J

jondamon said:

If you want a great all purpose insecticide that is organic look for anything with SPINOSAD as an active ingredient.

Spinosad is the only sure fire way of ridding yourself of Thrips.

BUt it also kills many other pests whilst not harming many other beneficial insects.

I personally use CONSERVE NATURALYTE as per pic below.

I live in the UK and cannot get SPINOSAD in any products here which is why i order it from the USA from ebay.

J

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thanks jondamon i have been hearing alot about spinosad if its organic im down to try it.. i have been using a fish oil spray that has been helping with everything until now from mites to powder mildue.. but all be dammed them thrips and gnats dont mind it one bit.. there everywhere!!

Spinosad was first discovered in an old disused rum distilery by a vacationing scientist.

If you google it then you will see that it is OMRI listed as organic.

It is a bacterium very similar to that of BT ( bascilus theringiensus) or something lol cant remember the spelling.

I use it to great effect as i dont have a completely sealed environment so i expect the odd gnat or something to get in there. I use this at the first sign of any trouble.

It works best once it is ingested but it also works just by contact.


J

i like rum!! sounds like good reading also..

i am growing in a completely sealed room and i keep the space totally clean that is why im so pissed by these dang things..

you have any input on my queens?

by the way +1 for the spinisad tipp

u can take a4 paper sheets and apply on them household pesticide , after they get dry u can bring the papers in the grow room close to the plants and pots but not touching either the plant or soil , if the papers can get a yellow coloring they will attract thrips more

u can apply a top layer of perlite ( 2-3 cms ) and prevent bugs emerging from soil to reach maturity and give birth to more bugs

when u end up with the grow and have the most potent weed u have grown came back to discuss how the maturity of a plant affects end product quality

bonjo78 said:

u can take a4 paper sheets and apply on them household pesticide , after they get dry u can bring the papers in the grow room close to the plants and pots but not touching either the plant or soil , if the papers can get a yellow coloring they will attract thrips more

u can apply a top layer of perlite ( 2-3 cms ) and prevent bugs emerging from soil to reach maturity and give birth to more bugs

when u end up with the grow and have the most potent weed u have grown came back to discuss how the maturity of a plant affects end product quality

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for sure on the test this is mother and daughter im working with here, that will make for good conversation smoke..

bonjo78 said:

u can take a4 paper sheets and apply on them household pesticide , after they get dry u can bring the papers in the grow room close to the plants and pots but not touching either the plant or soil , if the papers can get a yellow coloring they will attract thrips more

u can apply a top layer of perlite ( 2-3 cms ) and prevent bugs emerging from soil to reach maturity and give birth to more bugs

when u end up with the grow and have the most potent weed u have grown came back to discuss how the maturity of a plant affects end product quality

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I put perlite on top a while back and its been yellowing though.. Do you get the stain as well? I just put a little more just to cover it so it can reflect light a bit better.

leirlic said:

I put perlite on top a while back and its been yellowing though.. Do you get the stain as well? I just put a little more just to cover it so it can reflect light a bit better.

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u need to add some more , once u have perlite handy add some in the soil itself before u plant it so to give it some more drainage if thats not spesified soil for vegies/herbs dont over do it tho

dammit not many tipps to try or thoughts about what you think it might be??

so what i did for starters today i flushed the crap out of my queens and folier fed with stay green super thrive and fish oil..

tomorrow i plan on spraying with spinosid and feeding with 700ppm bloom with stay green and super thrive..

wish them luck and please more advise is always welcomed the battle has begun but still not over...

well it looks like i am loosing the battle with the queens..

but her children im sure will pull thru