Greenpoint seeds!!

FluffsTravels said:

It would seem pretty foolish to cull it considering it has quite a following. You might want to go back to the future one day.

Why fems and fem auto? I can see the google Nest generation liking the ease of the first, and selling mass outdoor of the second. Personally, I don't want either. Sexing is easy enough but sending the first little leaf to the lab for sexing is a no brainer. Hybrid vigor is what I want.

RIP Jessica Walter. Thank you for ending Archer before the woke mob got to it. "It is unclear how many episodes of the show Walter will be in next season but I hear that she worked on Archer until the end. “She loved that show so much and was grateful for it every day,” a friend of Walter’s said."

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You still get hybrid vigor from fems though. Honestly I have yet to see a difference in fem vs reg.

No more occurrences of herms or weak plants with fems. And honestly I have found equal amounts of banger phenos from the fems I've popped as the regs.

First seeds I ever bought were Dutch passion's skunk #1 feminized back in 2002. All 10 were fantastic and very similar. After that I only ran regular beans for several years because I bought into the "regs are better" rhetoric. But since around 2010 i went back to giving fems a go and found just as many great plants.

I literally can't find a definitive reason one is better than the other. I guess if you're wanting to really work a line and keep the bottlenecking down it is beneficial to introduce a male but that is about the only reason I can see that y chromosome being important.

Not trying to sway anyone just giving my two cents.

thenotsoesoteric said:

You still get hybrid vigor from fems though. Honestly I have yet to see a difference in fem vs reg.

No more occurrences of herms or weak plants with fems. And honestly I have found equal amounts of banger phenos from the fems I've popped as the regs.

First seeds I ever bought were Dutch passion's skunk #1 feminized back in 2002. All 10 were fantastic and very similar. After that I only ran regular beans for several years because I bought into the "regs are better" rhetoric. But since around 2010 i went back to giving fems a go and found just as many great plants.

I literally can't find a definitive reason one is better than the other. I guess if you're wanting to really work a line and keep the bottlenecking down it is beneficial to introduce a male but that is about the only reason I can see that y chromosome being important.

Not trying to sway anyone just giving my two cents.

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Your fem beans have been stellar so far bro!

So have been the fem beans I ran from gps.

Bodyne said:

Don't care for autos for reasons mentioned above, just aren't potent enough yet. But no regs means nobody can take your worked male and start a new bean company.

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Look up Roc Bud Inc. he’s achieved 30% with his auto

@thenotsoesoteric and @evergreengardener Cool. Thank you. I respect both of your opinions. I will give fems another chance.

FluffsTravels said:

RIP Jessica Walter. Thank you for ending Archer before the woke mob got to it.

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They are too busy messing with the military at the moment.
RIP Jessica. I had no idea that she passed.

In regards to fems, they can be good if you have limited space for testers and/or have a low plant count allowance. I like both regs and fems.

This ^^^^

Fems are good even if you can have 1000s of plants. I dont understand why people think they're inferior to regs. I could post several pics to prove that point but seeing this is the greenpoint thread and these fem pics are not greenpoint I won't. But if people could prove regs out perform fems I'd love to see evidence.

Just look at many of the long lasting elite cuts. Girl scout cookies, a fem seed from a hermie. Gg4 a herm seed fem. The theory that many og cuts are hermie/s1 of the chem family or possibly the tk cut. Im sure there are others im forgetting.

Again its subjective but not definitive by any stretch of the imagination that regs out perform fems.

But photos do out perform autos in many respects.

Greenpoint has become my favorite place to get seeds, all thanks to the Stardawg crosses. I find this sudden change of direction disturbing, as I have ZERO interest in autoflower strains. I have been doing this for 23 years, and know a ton of other long time growers. None of them want anything to do with autos either. This seems like a really bad move by GPS. Why would you swap out a stud male for a piece of shit ruderalis plant? Is this just to cater to all of the noob growers that have no skills and didnt have the balls to do this before the legalization movement? F*** them and their money.

As far as Im concerned, growing autos is akin to eating at McDonalds. Its strictly for lazy people who dont know how to cook. And like the people who eat fast food, most of these autoflower plants will die a slow, miserable death. Because the people caring for them have no clue what theyre doing.

GPS will have a legacy. It can be known for its quality genetics, or for serving up slop. Gu, you should really reconsider this decision. Money isnt everything.

The world has gone to shit. We have fake people. Fake governments. Fake News. Fake music. Fake food. Fake money. Fake pandemics. And now thanks to the Monsantos of the world and this autoflower craze, Fake weed.

Hopefully this is just a marketing gimmick to sell more of the Wild West series, as we all panic buy.

YerpGodMarley said:

The auto hate is real. It’s all glorious marijuana. Types meant for some. Types meant for others.

I know how to cook decently well but will eat fast food on occasion.

stop hating on what u don’t deal with that’s *blows raspberries

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Would you smoke a landrace ruderalis? If not, then why would you want it bred into your stash?

But....if youre willing to eat shit on occasion, maybe youre willing to smoke it also.

F_Dupp said:

The world has gone to shit. We have fake people. Fake governments. Fake News. Fake music. Fake food. Fake money. Fake pandemics. And now thanks to the Monsantos of the world and this autoflower craze, Fake weed.

Hopefully this is just a marketing gimmick to sell more of the Wild West series, as we all panic buy.

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The world was always shit. Nothing "fake" about it. Learn to deal with it.......................................or eat more Q twinkies with your lunch.

If youre growing outdoors in northern latitude, or just a lazy, careless, or unskilled grower who needs a plant that can take massive abuse, then I can see an advantage to growing autos. But other than that I just dont see the upside. And I believe there is a reason that ruderalis has been excluded from breeding lines that were designed to be consumed. Indica and sativa make good smoke. Ruderalis makes good rope and textiles.

V256.420 said:

The world was always shit. Nothing "fake" about it. Learn to deal with it.......................................or eat more Q twinkies with your lunch.

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What is a Q Twinkie???

Are you referring to the psyop that made otherwise intelligent people believe that the government was going to save them from the government? Cause that aint me, pal.

Gps said they're doing fems and autos, not just autos.

If you don't want to grow autos, don't buy them. If people are wanting to buy them thats their business. No one forcing you to grow autos.

Some folks don't need bell ringing weed so autos fit them. Me, I prefer a face melting buzz so definitely prefer photos.

I gave my buddy a couple of the auto freebies I got last year and he threw them in his back yard just to see what they'd do. The delicious seeds northern lights x blueberry wasn't bad weed at all. Didn't yield great but tasted good and got me stoned which means it was better than the rec weed available in Salem, Or at the time.

thenotsoesoteric said:

Gps said they're doing fems and autos, not just autos.

If you don't want to grow autos, don't buy them. If people are wanting to buy them thats their business. No one forcing you to grow autos.

Some folks don't need bell ringing weed so autos fit them. Me, I prefer a face melting buzz so definitely prefer photos.

I gave my buddy a couple of the auto freebies I got last year and he threw them in his back yard just to see what they'd do. The delicious seeds northern lights x blueberry wasn't bad weed at all. Didn't yield great but tasted good and got me stoned which means it was better than the rec weed available in Salem, Or at the time.

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Im not going to buy them. Nor am I implying that anyone is attempting to force me to. Im saying that I think this is a bad direction for what is currently my favorite seed company.

All of a sudden there is an autoflower bandwagon that experienced growers are jumping on? Is there something Im missing here?

*cue The Twilight Zone theme song

F_Dupp said:

All of a sudden there is an autoflower bandwagon that experienced growers are jumping on? Is there something Im missing here?

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Supposedly there have been 'great strides' made in the quality of auto bud the last couple of years. Then again, it had nowhere to go but up.

F_Dupp said:

Im not going to buy them. Nor am I implying that anyone is attempting to force me to. Im saying that I think this is a bad direction for what is currently my favorite seed company.

All of a sudden there is an autoflower bandwagon that experienced growers are jumping on? Is there something Im missing here?

*cue The Twilight Zone theme song

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If there is money to be made folks will jump on board.

For me, autos are only worth it if theyre going outside and you don't have a long grow season or want to go unnoticed.

For northern climates theyre perfect for guerrilla grows outdoor. Down south or out west id go photo for sure.

You're right though its weird gps would take such a different route out of no where but as Dylan famously said "times are a changing"

I think that was Dylan anyway.

YerpGodMarley said:

do you drink any beverage thats not water? why, cuz you wanted to? coo, good enough reason for me. no hate.

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Lol. Great analogy, dude


Those genetically modified, food-like products youre eating are doing wonders for ya. Or maybe its all the ruderalis youre smoking.

How do you block someone on here?