Well all seeds are now submerged in promix. All Night Riders germinated along with the blueberry cheesecake and pineapple chunk. The Jelly pie only 2 out of 4. Went ahead and planted them anyway. Added 2 more Jelly Pie to the seed trays (without pre-soak) just in case those other two don't germ... Wish they all had tails, but I still have faith in them!