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Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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jayblaze710 said:
Wedding Cake is also known as Triangle Mints, bred by Seed Junky Genetics. It’s TK x Animal Mints. Animal Mints is Animal Cookies x Sin Mint Cookies.

It’s tied to Jungle Boys because they popularized the strain and starting calling it Wedding Cake, they hunted through something like a thousand seeds to pick what they considered the best representation of the strain. A buddy of Gu’s in CA got their hands on the cut, it’s around if you’re willing to pay a bit for it, and then S1’ed the plant.

What do you find sketchy about the Banana OG S1 descriptions? The Banana OG cut was selfed to produce S1 seeds. The Banana OG cut origins come from Orgnkid from back in the day on the forums. He’s the guy who also first shared the Ghost OG cut. The exact genetics are a bit unclear, but that’s pretty much par for the course when it comes to these older SoCal cuts.
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I was talking about the all the S1's Gu was selling on the website.From my understanding it was a forum member that made all the seeds.I was just posting a description when ol dude said the seeds were made by jungle boyz.
As far as them germinating yeah alot of things can go fucked up to make seeds not viable especially s1's.Ive made a couple batches that had bad germination and its usually because they were pollinated to late,not given enough time to mature,
At least Gu has experience with seeds so i was under the assumption the seeds were made by Greenpoint because they are under Greenpoints section under breeders.Obviously not the case
 
kona gold

kona gold

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Gu~ said:
S1, a pollen chuck lol?. Do you even know what you are saying? S1s require more skill than any seed making...
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So besides have to make a female produce male flowers......what do you mean by more skill??
And all breeders make mistakes, and things don't always turn out the way we thought.
So instead of leaning towards the arrogant side, listen to all criticism and try not to get personally involved, but be understanding, and let things be learning experience for the future.
Also selfing a hybrid or polyhybrid, can most definitely expose recessive genetics. As who knows what or how these strains were created.

This is a potential problem always, when you breed only with clones, because you market towards what is popular, so you can increase sales, based on popularity.
 
kona gold

kona gold

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jayblaze710 said:
Wedding Cake is also known as Triangle Mints, bred by Seed Junky Genetics. It’s TK x Animal Mints. Animal Mints is Animal Cookies x Sin Mint Cookies.

It’s tied to Jungle Boys because they popularized the strain and starting calling it Wedding Cake, they hunted through something like a thousand seeds to pick what they considered the best representation of the strain. A buddy of Gu’s in CA got their hands on the cut, it’s around if you’re willing to pay a bit for it, and then S1’ed the plant.

What do you find sketchy about the Banana OG S1 descriptions? The Banana OG cut was selfed to produce S1 seeds. The Banana OG cut origins come from Orgnkid from back in the day on the forums. He’s the guy who also first shared the Ghost OG cut. The exact genetics are a bit unclear, but that’s pretty much par for the course when it comes to these older SoCal cuts.
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You could go through a million seeds, that won't guarantee you know how to select the right ones!
 
CannaBruh

CannaBruh

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kona gold said:
You could go through a million seeds, that won't guarantee you know how to select the right ones!
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a lot of people miss this and believe that high numbers increase chances of finding something amazing... no.. each one is a lottery ticket my friends with its own odds, fire can be found in 1 (and increasingly with these great genetics often is)


*edit, and even with the "right" ones available, what is selected is dependent on the eye of the selector. You could select every "wrong" one of 1000 or 1 "right" one from a single pack, ymmv.
 
greywind

greywind

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jayblaze710 said:
Have you had Jungle Boys stuff? I wouldn’t call anything they produce mids. It’s ridiculously frosty, sticky, and stinky stuff.

When they start working a new line, they grow out at least 500+ seeds, and continually narrow down the phenos over three grows before they choose the individual cut they want to keep. There’s a reason why so many breeders use the Jungle Boys cut of a popular strains. Part of its hype, no doubt, but they’re actually popping more seeds than anyone.
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I have, their Wedding Cake as a matter of fact. And it was indeed good. Is it $60-70 an eighth good? HELL NO! No cannabis really is.

What the Jungle Boys have on their side is commercial grow space and investors' money. This alone allows them to hunt through a large population of any given cultivar and choose one keeper they believe to stand above all others. Where I think they fall short is their style of growing, which is catered toward quantity of said keeper phenos, instead of quality. They can install their system in any warehouse and have a team of oompa loompas grow their gear out. Dosatrons, one node and flip tech is the equivalent of set it and forget it growing... perfectly grown, frosty pretendica for everybody that doesn't know any better. Just my opinion of course. Cheers!
 
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jayblaze710

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kona gold said:
You could go through a million seeds, that won't guarantee you know how to select the right ones!
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There’s a reason why any breeders working with Wedding Cake are using the Jungle Boys cut. If you weren’t so focused on being an old school hipster, Jungle Boys makes good shit. I’m fine with it not being your cup of tea. Hell, it’s not mine either. That doesn’t mean they don’t produce top shelf stuff.

CannaBruh said:
a lot of people miss this and believe that high numbers increase chances of finding something amazing... no.. each one is a lottery ticket my friends with its own odds, fire can be found in 1 (and increasingly with these great genetics often is)


*edit, and even with the "right" ones available, what is selected is dependent on the eye of the selector. You could select every "wrong" one of 1000 or 1 "right" one from a single pack, ymmv.
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This is such an idiotic statement. Of course popping more seeds increases your odds of finding something amazing. That’s literally how statistics work.

And my point is that Jungle Boys are sifting through more seeds than almost every single breeder out there. If they can’t find fire in a hundred packs of elite genetics, then we should just quit popping our measly little packs at home.

Phenohunting isn’t exactly difficult. You could convince yourself that JB is just a bunch of idiots who can’t recognize a good plant from a bad one. Or just acknowledge that they put in the work and there’s more to them than just hype.

Cannarado, Seed Junky, Thug Pug, Capulator, Swamp Boys, Archive...there’s a reason why all these breeders are working with cuts that Jungle Boys selected.
 
jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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CannaBruh said:
a lot of people miss this and believe that high numbers increase chances of finding something amazing... no.. each one is a lottery ticket my friends with its own odds, fire can be found in 1 (and increasingly with these great genetics often is)


*edit, and even with the "right" ones available, what is selected is dependent on the eye of the selector. You could select every "wrong" one of 1000 or 1 "right" one from a single pack, ymmv.
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Its a given that a breeder must know what he is looking for, with that and everything else being equal, the breeder growing out large numbers of plants has a much greater chance of finding something special. I read somewhere that Mendel basically said the same thing.
 
tman42

tman42

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Getgrowingson said:
ANYOne else try and pop their wedding cake? I only got five in a six pack and two of them only popped not real happy with it. Had better germ rates with almost everything else I’ve popped. First time with Greenpoint so maybe I’ve gotten some duds but i never have germ issues with anything I’ve popped.

Edit I should say he got back to me quickly and said he will send a replacement. Keeping positive. First time I’ve ever complained to a breeder feel not so great about it but paying 20 a seed so
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I put two each of Wedding Cake, Do_Si_Dos and Gelato into Root Riot cubes and they were all up in under 72 hours. Glad to see you got it sorted out with GU and good luck on those in the future.

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jayblaze710

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greywind said:
I have, their Wedding Cake as a matter of fact. And it was indeed good. Is it $60-70 an eighth good? HELL NO! No cannabis really is.

What the Jungle Boys have on their side is commercial grow space and investors' money. This alone allows them to hunt through a large population of any given cultivar and choose one keeper they believe to stand above all others. Where I think they fall short is their style of growing, which is catered toward quantity of said keeper phenos, instead of quality. They can install their system in any warehouse and have a team of oompa loompas grow them out. Dosatrons, one node and flip tech is the equivalent of set it and forget it growing... perfectly grown, frosty pretendica for everybody that doesn't know better and is okay with overpaying. Just my opinion of course. Cheers!
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It’s $54 1/8th for recreational (including all the taxes). Is that pricy? Yeah. But it’s kinda the standard price for top shelf weed purchased at a legit recreational shop in SoCal. You can find stuff for cheaper, but IME, most of the shops selling for cheaper are gray area shops that aren’t following regulations and don’t have a license to sell recreational.

I can totally understand being critical of their grow style. I myself prefer an organic grow, preferably living soil with amendments. There aren’t any commercial growers that grow that way, and never will be. It’s an unfortunate reality of the legal marijuana market. I’ve had some product from other commercial growers that’s definitely on par with Jungle Boys. But I wouldn’t say I’ve found any that are consistently better.
 
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jayblaze710

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jonsnow399 said:
Its a given that a breeder must know what he is looking for, with that and everything else being equal, the breeder growing out large numbers of plants has a much greater chance of finding something special. I read somewhere that Mendel basically said the same thing.
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What?! Mendel never said anything of the sort. My background is in evolutionary biology. I would know. Mendel was only interested in how traits were passed down, he had no interest in selective breeding.

Seed Junky is literally using the Jungle Boys cut of Wedding Cake in his crosses! Many breeders that have their stuff grown by Jungle Boys end up using their cuts in future breeding projects.
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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I apologize to Gu for the blanket statement.After researching some more those beans are as legit as S1's can get.I mean really thats what your getting is an S1.I did not realize Gu spent so much time checking the place out and making sure the quality was up to his standards.
Nothing is gonna change my opinion about GP gear since everything of his ive ran has been stellar.I suppose it all rubbed me the wrong way after i made the GG order than looked further into it after someone told me to watch them carefully.I know the GG is famous for herms but ive had other GG crosses that never hermed.Living in a shit state its impossibe to get the cut unless i drive 20 hours so the S1 i have been waiting a while for seemed legit.
His shit is always fire so again i apologize.
 
Gu~

Gu~

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Heisengrow said:
I apologize to Gu for the blanket statement.After researching some more those beans are as legit as S1's can get.I mean really thats what your getting is an S1.I did not realize Gu spent so much time checking the place out and making sure the quality was up to his standards.
Nothing is gonna change my opinion about GP gear since everything of his ive ran has been stellar.I suppose it all rubbed me the wrong way after i made the GG order than looked further into it after someone told me to watch them carefully.I know the GG is famous for herms but ive had other GG crosses that never hermed.Living in a shit state its impossibe to get the cut unless i drive 20 hours so the S1 i have been waiting a while for seemed legit.
His shit is always fire so again i apologize.
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You've been super busy breathing in construction dust and wood glue. I appreciate your character.
 
Jhon77

Jhon77

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Heisengrow said:
I apologize to Gu for the blanket statement.After researching some more those beans are as legit as S1's can get.I mean really thats what your getting is an S1.I did not realize Gu spent so much time checking the place out and making sure the quality was up to his standards.
Nothing is gonna change my opinion about GP gear since everything of his ive ran has been stellar.I suppose it all rubbed me the wrong way after i made the GG order than looked further into it after someone told me to watch them carefully.I know the GG is famous for herms but ive had other GG crosses that never hermed.Living in a shit state its impossibe to get the cut unless i drive 20 hours so the S1 i have been waiting a while for seemed legit.
His shit is always fire so again i apologize.
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jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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jayblaze710 said:
What?! Mendel never said anything of the sort. My background is in evolutionary biology. I would know. Mendel was only interested in how traits were passed down, he had no interest in selective breeding.

Seed Junky is literally using the Jungle Boys cut of Wedding Cake in his crosses! Many breeders that have their stuff grown by Jungle Boys end up using their cuts in future breeding projects.
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Maybe he didn't but the point remains.
 
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