Greenpoint seeds!!

Heisengrow

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Only thing that came out those s1s were them green cones for germinating the seeds.my wife loves it for putting her stash in,shes weird like that.as far as the s1s go they might make good house plants.
 

Lurpin

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Chemically induced for sure, or at least it's some old wives bro science lore of old. I think I read it in Mel Frank's book, Marijuana Growers Guide, some 25 years ago, about how colchicine could induce tetraploidy in Cannabis.

Copied and pasted this from wikipedia

Botanical use
Since chromosome segregation is driven by microtubules, colchicine is also used for inducing polyploidy in plant cells during cellular division by inhibiting chromosome segregation during meiosis; half the resulting gametes, therefore, contain no chromosomes, while the other half contains double the usual number of chromosomes (i.e., diploidinstead of haploid, as gametes usually are), and lead to embryos with double the usual number of chromosomes (i.e., tetraploid instead of diploid). While this would be fatal in most higher animal cells, in plant cells it is not only usually well tolerated, but also frequently results in larger, hardier, faster-growing, and in general more desirable plants than the normally diploid parents; for this reason, this type of genetic manipulation is frequently used in breeding plants commercially.

When such a tetraploid plant is crossed with a diploid plant, the triploid offspring are usually sterile (unable to produce fertile seeds or spores), although many triploids can be propagated vegetatively. Growers of annual triploid plants not readily propagated must buy fresh seed from a supplier each year. Many sterile triploid plants, including some tree and shrubs, are becoming increasingly valued in horticulture and landscaping because they do not become invasive species. In certain species, colchicine-induced triploidy has been used to create "seedless" fruit, such as seedless watermelons (Citrullus lanatus). Since most triploids do not produce pollen themselves, such plants usually require cross-pollination with a diploid parent to induce fruit production.

Colchicine's ability to induce polyploidy can be also exploited to render infertile hybrids fertile, for example in breeding triticale (× Triticosecale) from wheat (Triticum spp.) and rye (Secale cereale). Wheat is typically tetraploid and rye diploid, with their triploid hybrid infertile; treatment of triploid triticale with colchicine gives fertile hexaploid triticale.

When used to induce polyploidy in plants, colchicine cream is usually applied to a growth point of the plant, such as an apical tip, shoot, or sucker. Also, seeds can be presoaked in a colchicine solution before planting. Another way to induce polyploidy is to chop off the tops of plants and carefully examine the regenerating lateral shoots and suckers to see if any look different.[40] If no visual difference is evident, flow cytometry can be used for analysis.

Doubling of plant chromosome numbers also occurs spontaneously in nature, with many familiar plants being fertile polyploids.[41] Natural hybridization between fertile parental plants of different levels of polyploidy can produce new plants at an intermediate level, such as a triploid produced by crossing between a diploid and a tetraploid, or a hexaploid produced by crossing between a tetraploid and an octoploid.




Its fitting with Gu's Wild West Series, that there be a good saloon fight.
I do like a good western. :bigjoint:

China creates gmos like this currently. They have massive fields of different kinds of plants that they spray with colchicine. Fun fact colchicine is the same drug as the stuff you get for gout medicine and it actually comes from another plant I can't remember it's name. My brother and I soaked some seeds in colchicine once, I guess the trick is to get it so strong that most of the seeds die but the ones that survive usually are triploids. We never got any to survive sadly haha..

Edit: CV is my favorite brand, that's why when I saw GPS was with it, I came aboard the GPS train. When I first started seriously collecting seeds I remember reading some drama about CV on these forums. I didn't pay any attention to it and kept buying their seeds.

Speaking of trains that's kinda wild west like. If Gu is reading this, he should do a cross with some sort of train wreck (CV cut) and call it some sort of wild west train name. ______ insert cool train name.
 
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Gu~

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I got the scoop by the way.

It looks like Dinafem was the company used to supply the "S1's".

I see now many European companies are buying bulk seeds produced by greenhouse monsters, Dinafem, and then selling them as their own. I was also shown a text message between a defunct seedbank "Substrate" and HSO (Humboldt Seed Organization) that shows that this trend has spread to the USA as well.

Be careful out there!
 

GrowRijt

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Would be bad ass if we could harness female pollen from male plants like they do with sperm to give people boys that want a boy.
I read a scientific article on hemp study where they subjected the male pollen to UV light for two hours and the resulting seeds yielded 30% more females though less pollen potency. Something tells me this is coming sooner than we think.

And let’s be kind to our neighbors to the North. We are all on the same team here and Canada is pretty tight.
 

Heisengrow

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I got the scoop by the way.

It looks like Dinafem was the company used to supply the "S1's".

I see now many European companies are buying bulk seeds produced by greenhouse monsters, Dinafem, and then selling them as their own. I was also shown a text message between a defunct seedbank "Substrate" and HSO (Humboldt Seed Organization) that shows that this trend has spread to the USA as well.

Be careful out there!
Yep yep
 

TheEpicFlowers

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I got the scoop by the way.

It looks like Dinafem was the company used to supply the "S1's".

I see now many European companies are buying bulk seeds produced by greenhouse monsters, Dinafem, and then selling them as their own. I was also shown a text message between a defunct seedbank "Substrate" and HSO (Humboldt Seed Organization) that shows that this trend has spread to the USA as well.

Be careful out there!
Gu, I have been growing dinafem gear for 10 years now... and not once did I ever see a single herm let alone a male come out of any of their gear. No offence to you sir, but I don't believe that for a second.
They have a greenhouse in kincardine Ontario called 7 acres that is strictly from seed and it's all dinafem gear.
 

TheEpicFlowers

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I doubt that a multimillion dollar company that is traded openly on the stock exchange would take a chance on losing their rep on a company that has such poor breeding principles as to market s1's that are so obviously male it hurts.
 
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NugHeuser

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Holy shit, who overloaded the nutes on this forum - already approaching 1000 pages!! GPS done got popular! I've been trying to catch up on all the drama that's occurred over the past few hundred pages, but it takes some dedication for sure.

Anyway, regarding the topic/scandal regarding the S1's... have the majority here decided to just return them for refund?
Or, has anyone been popping and flipping their S1's and getting some acceptable male/female ratios? Maybe I missed something, but it seems to me there was one person who popped 100% males on the Wedding Cake S1's and it freaked everyone out. Were there others with a similar outcome?
Basically, can it be confirmed that the S1's are crap, or no?
So far I have one or two females with 9 males. All have bad structure and/or vigor. I ended up pitching 6 seedlings and the rest of the seedlings I have. We'll see if the one or two females amount to anything.
 

Heisengrow

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Gu, I have been growing dinafem gear for 10 years now... and not once did I ever see a single herm let alone a male come out of any of their gear. No offence to you sir, but I don't believe that for a second.
They have a greenhouse in kincardine Ontario called 7 acres that is strictly from seed and it's all dinafem gear.
Dinafem makes regs and I think you misunderstood.someone bought regular seeds from a seedstore giant at bulk cheap rates and passed them off as something else.
 

TheEpicFlowers

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DinaFEM. Check their site. They breed fems only for public sale. Not only that but they don't offer any of the s1's that were sold here. They only just released gorilla glue. Europeans are generally 3 or 4 years behind in the genetics that are hype in North america
 

Talamanca

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Doc holiday, nothing of grape in these phenotypes, not very purple, but equally beautiful and tasty flowers, smells and tastes very similar to curing, in 5 females that came out of 8 seeds, coffee, toasted chocolate, earthy, sweet, afghan, plant very homogeneous, the differences are more effects, some totally narcotics, and others not so much, you smoke in the day and you can be doing things.
excellent strain.
Greetings, from the tropics.
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GreenHighlander

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Not taking sides, but have you noticed? There are never any 'likes' under either of you cats' posts when you get into the extremely tired and played out flame fests.

Please take this for what it means, and concentrate on other topics, where you both produce worthwhile posts. Muchos grassyass.
I do apologize for making myself just as bad. I also never post anything hoping for likes.Unlike some I couldn't give a sweet fuck about that.
Sometimes, just like the first time I ever posted in this thread, I just can't help myself. I only made my last post about heisengoof because he had made some snide little bitch comment about me. Again I accept responsibility for taking the bait each and every time.
I only ever read this whole thread and followed it in hopes of finding information. The actual information on any GreenpointSeeds strain is few and far in between. Would amount to the double digits in pages. I actually recall bitching about it in my first post in this thread along with heisengoof being a hateful asshole. Here I am now acting no better. In fact for me I am acting worse.
Thank you to the very few people who have actually posted anything meaningful in this thread. Good luck to the hype mobile.
Cheers :)
 

Talamanca

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I got the scoop by the way.

It looks like Dinafem was the company used to supply the "S1's".

I see now many European companies are buying bulk seeds produced by greenhouse monsters, Dinafem, and then selling them as their own. I was also shown a text message between a defunct seedbank "Substrate" and HSO (Humboldt Seed Organization) that shows that this trend has spread to the USA as well.

Be careful out there!
In Spanish forums there is much talk about this some time ago, it is even said that in reality the seeds of hso, are made there, in Spain.
 
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