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Do you think I Can get an ounce outta my Cabinet this time?

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greenpower000

greenpower000

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OMFG !!!!!

I just realized.. after all the questions... and BKB even pointed it out as well i think.
The "bloom boost Ferts" im using are just that ... boosting ferts.. I do not have a "complete" nute to mix.... the bloom boos is just npk.. thats it.. no trace minerals or elements or extras.. and the fish ferts are pretty much just N......

Any have a good fert to use I can pick up at lowes ? that's the only place around (unless i want to go to a nursery... they are very expensive around here)

I need some good ferts... somethign.. these ladies are dieing .. they are starving to death.. Damn.. i was sittin here reading back threw everyone journal.. and it hit me.. I saw the work "complete Fertilizer" and wham.. like a 2x4 it hit me... I feel sooo noobish and stupid now.. I just hope i can get the girls to turn back around......
 
stoneyluv

stoneyluv

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if lowes is all ya got.... go with anything with trace minerals in it.... even MG will work for ya... don't over do it though!!! less is more!!!!!
 
greenpower000

greenpower000

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stoneyluv said:
if lowes is all ya got.... go with anything with trace minerals in it.... even MG will work for ya... don't over do it though!!! less is more!!!!!
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Yea, I've just been in a total panic about the girls just slowly turning yellow and dieing. It didn't really echo in my head and come to my attn that I'm not giving them everything they need..even after BKB was like .... hey you might have an under nuteing problem... I was just so afraid to take action and screw things up... Thanks fo rthe advice bro!

freshmoney said:
see if your lowes carry morbloom made from the same company as the fish fert
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What's up Fresh ! I saw the morbloom @ Lowes, but it didn't have as much of the compleet nutes i need a this point (a recovery point) I know the girls are shocked and dieing.. hopefully they will turn around ! Thanks for the advice, I am gonna pick up some of that for my next grow ... but for now...... I know... I know... looks ike it's some MG all purpose plant food.

Here is my line up:

MG all purpose plant food.... http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?proId=prod70342&itemId=cat50106&tabs=general

I used a half a dose last night ( i also put just a smidgen of the bloom boost.)

MG Bloom Boost Ferts ..... http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?proId=prod70352&itemId=cat70044&tabs=general

I used a very small amount last night in the mix.... very small amount.

Alaska's Fish Emulsion Fertalizer (the 5-1-1 liquid formula) ...... http://www.lillymiller.com/alaska.html#231

I used a half dose of this in the mix lastnight...... this shit stinks to high hell.....

I want to thank everyone for there suggestions and input on my grow !!!!! I couldn't pull it off with out you guys !

Thanks everyone !!!

Keep em growin green and strong guys !!!!!
 
NatureaFinest

NatureaFinest

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Hey bro I was reading through to c if I could lend a hand. In my experience, yellowing leaves that aren't crispy (burn) and purple stems/branches is a severe mg deficiency which will cause leaf/shoot loss. This can be corrected with epsom salt from Wal mart. 1/4-1/2 tsp per gallon. U could foliar feed for fast results but I'd be careful cause it could cause mold on the buds. maybe if u have a small squirt bottle u can shoot almost exclusively on leaves. I can't recall off hand what soil ur using but if its MG I would damn near guarantee that's what it is. As always double, triple, hell quadruple check ph and make sure its not a lockout. I just recently switched from MG Organic Choice and this problem plagued me but when I had purp stems I'd hit em witn epsom salt and the new stem growth would be green as hell. I hope this helps and hope I didn't just write all that and someone already mention or u already trying that. EDIT: also mg def will attack older leaves/shoots first and slowly work its way to the top. Same as nitrogen def BUT mg is the most common deficiency cause mj loves a lot of it. I add dolomite lime to my soil everytime. 1/2 tsp per gallon of soil, has tons of mg and is also a good ph buffer for acidic soils
 
greenpower000

greenpower000

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NatureaFinest said:
Hey bro I was reading through to c if I could lend a hand. In my experience, yellowing leaves that aren't crispy (burn) and purple stems/branches is a severe mg deficiency which will cause leaf/shoot loss. This can be corrected with epsom salt from Wal mart. 1/4-1/2 tsp per gallon. U could foliar feed for fast results but I'd be careful cause it could cause mold on the buds. maybe if u have a small squirt bottle u can shoot almost exclusively on leaves. I can't recall off hand what soil ur using but if its MG I would damn near guarantee that's what it is. As always double, triple, hell quadruple check ph and make sure its not a lockout. I just recently switched from MG Organic Choice and this problem plagued me but when I had purp stems I'd hit em witn epsom salt and the new stem growth would be green as hell. I hope this helps and hope I didn't just write all that and someone already mention or u already trying that. EDIT: also mg def will attack older leaves/shoots first and slowly work its way to the top. Same as nitrogen def BUT mg is the most common deficiency cause mj loves a lot of it. I add dolomite lime to my soil everytime. 1/2 tsp per gallon of soil, has tons of mg and is also a good ph buffer for acidic soils
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SCHWEET!!!!!! Your typing is not in Vein !!! I have some Epsom salt at home to !I will try some of that tonight !!!
Thanks for your input and researching my issue (digging threw my journal to diagnose my girls) ++++++++++ rep if i could !

thanks bro !!!!
 
bekindbud

bekindbud

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NatureaFinest said:
Hey bro I was reading through to c if I could lend a hand. In my experience, yellowing leaves that aren't crispy (burn) and purple stems/branches is a severe mg deficiency which will cause leaf/shoot loss. This can be corrected with epsom salt from Wal mart. 1/4-1/2 tsp per gallon. U could foliar feed for fast results but I'd be careful cause it could cause mold on the buds. maybe if u have a small squirt bottle u can shoot almost exclusively on leaves. I can't recall off hand what soil ur using but if its MG I would damn near guarantee that's what it is. As always double, triple, hell quadruple check ph and make sure its not a lockout. I just recently switched from MG Organic Choice and this problem plagued me but when I had purp stems I'd hit em witn epsom salt and the new stem growth would be green as hell. I hope this helps and hope I didn't just write all that and someone already mention or u already trying that. EDIT: also mg def will attack older leaves/shoots first and slowly work its way to the top. Same as nitrogen def BUT mg is the most common deficiency cause mj loves a lot of it. I add dolomite lime to my soil everytime. 1/2 tsp per gallon of soil, has tons of mg and is also a good ph buffer for acidic soils
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Thanks for helping and sharing your experience.....Good info on the MG def I didnt know that, i just knew that purple stems meant some sort of deficiency!

@Green, sorry i havent been around but I been very busy with work and stuff....I will catch up soon. Hopefully now you can get really dialed in on your girls and they should be back on track in no time. Just be patient with them and they will get better.

IMO If you decide to spray them, make sure you do a test spray on a lower area of the plant and wait 24hours to make sure nothing happens to the area you spray. Dont go blasting your whole plant, each plant and strain have different reactions to sprays so its better to be safe than sorry! I never sprayed Epsom salt on my plants but I did a spray with baking soda and that shit fried my pistils. Also if you do spray, put a fan on them to dry before putting back under the lights.

Peace

BKB
 
NatureaFinest

NatureaFinest

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No problem bros lol. Thanks for throwin that in BKB, I didn't even think about that lol. Well one more long post for me cause I DO NOT want to misinform u bro. Personally I wouldn't foliar feed with the buds, too risky for mold and I'm highly allergic & with watering u can fix it if this makes the problem worse cause its a possibility. If u have anyway of checkn ur ph that may be a good idea. I have a shitty probe tester from lowes, everyone bashes them but mines been right on with my ph pen so I love it that way u could get ur soil ph. Look around ur place at the faucets and look to c if there's any sort of build up, mineral deposits, etc. If there is that's an indication that u have hard water. Hard water generally has more mg in it than soft water and if u have hard water it may be ph causing a mg deficiency, in which case adding more would be overkill and possibly do more harm. If u let ur water sit for 24 hours like so many do, ur ph will go up. Mine was raising .6 overnite so I said fuck that. In the chart provided ull notice that after a ph lower than 6.9-6.6 the mg intake drops drastically. maybe ur soil/roots just needs a pH adjustment
now I AM NOT a pro, don't claim to be. I do however stay on here round the clock talkn to the knowledgable folks at RIU and reading everything I can. I'm NOT trying to act like a know it all by no means I just don't wanna give info and it toast ur plants. I'd never forgive myself. I can't believe my redneck ass typed that shit tho lmao
 
greenpower000

greenpower000

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bekindbud said:
Thanks for helping and sharing your experience.....Good info on the MG def I didnt know that, i just knew that purple stems meant some sort of deficiency!

@Green, sorry i havent been around but I been very busy with work and stuff....I will catch up soon. Hopefully now you can get really dialed in on your girls and they should be back on track in no time. Just be patient with them and they will get better.

IMO If you decide to spray them, make sure you do a test spray on a lower area of the plant and wait 24hours to make sure nothing happens to the area you spray. Dont go blasting your whole plant, each plant and strain have different reactions to sprays so its better to be safe than sorry! I never sprayed Epsom salt on my plants but I did a spray with baking soda and that shit fried my pistils. Also if you do spray, put a fan on them to dry before putting back under the lights.

Peace

BKB
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I don't think im going to foliar feed, and it's all gravy man.. You have helped me soo much ! I just don't want to bother anyone or seem ungrateful !!!!!

I can't thank you enough !

Hopefully the girls will turn around this week.

NatureaFinest said:
No problem bros lol. Thanks for throwin that in BKB, I didn't even think about that lol. Well one more long post for me cause I DO NOT want to misinform u bro. Personally I wouldn't foliar feed with the buds, too risky for mold and I'm highly allergic & with watering u can fix it if this makes the problem worse cause its a possibility. If u have anyway of checkn ur ph that may be a good idea. I have a shitty probe tester from lowes, everyone bashes them but mines been right on with my ph pen so I love it that way u could get ur soil ph. Look around ur place at the faucets and look to c if there's any sort of build up, mineral deposits, etc. If there is that's an indication that u have hard water. Hard water generally has more mg in it than soft water and if u have hard water it may be ph causing a mg deficiency, in which case adding more would be overkill and possibly do more harm. If u let ur water sit for 24 hours like so many do, ur ph will go up. Mine was raising .6 overnite so I said fuck that. In the chart provided ull notice that after a ph lower than 6.9-6.6 the mg intake drops drastically. maybe ur soil/roots just needs a pH adjustment
now I AM NOT a pro, don't claim to be. I do however stay on here round the clock talkn to the knowledgable folks at RIU and reading everything I can. I'm NOT trying to act like a know it all by no means I just don't wanna give info and it toast ur plants. I'd never forgive myself. I can't believe my redneck ass typed that shit tho lmao
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I have a PH test kit.... a cheap pool one... and the PH is right at 6.8 ... a little high... but my ass is so broke right now... i can't even go out to get some clear vinegar .. or baking soda... My dad bought me those all purpose nutes.. lol... he had to go to lowes to get some nails and i was like.. hey you mind if i ride along ? lololol...

I'm using city water.... not really a build up or crust.. I've seen it at my buddies house before.... he has that white crusty shit bad....

Friday... can't wait till pay day...

I MIR and then watered with nute mix again tonight, ( half strength all purp. ferts. , a dash... nay..... a smidge of bloom boost, 1/4 strength fish ferts and a half strength Epsom salt) ( all measured with a teaspoon and mixed with city tap water in a 1 gallon milk jug)

I can only hope and pray now !

Thank all of you guys for the help !!!! BKB and Naturea especially
 
greenpower000

greenpower000

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Ok,

Here is an update ! Thanks once again for the assistance !!!! they have really turned around !

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Man They were really bad off.... I didn't realize that they completely stopped growing, i have a nice bit of growth going on.

keep em growing strong guys !
 
bekindbud

bekindbud

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Looking good Green....they definitely are showing better signs. I would recommend you point those fans towards the lights to keep the canopy nice and cool. Unless you do already and was just moving them for picture purposes. I noticed your frog in one cup but whats the other thing on top of the cup, looks like sea shells or something. Keep up the good work bro. Just keep notes on what you feed your girls so you can use reference point on where you can add or take away when feeding.

Peace

BKB
 
greenpower000

greenpower000

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depression .... for no reason at all.... sucks ass. I'm feeling manic .... in a panic.. over nothing ... DAMN IT .... it drains all of my energy.
 
greenpower000

greenpower000

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bekindbud said:
Looking good Green....they definitely are showing better signs. I would recommend you point those fans towards the lights to keep the canopy nice and cool. Unless you do already and was just moving them for picture purposes. I noticed your frog in one cup but whats the other thing on top of the cup, looks like sea shells or something. Keep up the good work bro. Just keep notes on what you feed your girls so you can use reference point on where you can add or take away when feeding.

Peace

BKB
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I have the frog in one, and the teddy bears standing on a cloud in the other cup.. i just laied it side ways to get a better surface area so they won't fall over with the plant.
 
bekindbud

bekindbud

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greenpower000 said:
depression .... for no reason at all.... sucks ass. I'm feeling manic .... in a panic.. over nothing ... DAMN IT .... it drains all of my energy.
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I know how it feels bro, trust me, the best thing to do is SOMETHING! Need to occupy yourself so you dont let the Bull Shit Depression get the best of you....Take a long walk or go do some physical activities to get your blood pumping...You will feel better man!

Peace

BKB
 
greenpower000

greenpower000

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4betshove said:
Looking good Green!
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Thanks man ! Stick around .... this grow has really surprised me. I thought i was doomed, thought i would never reverse the yellowing... lost a lot of foliage. But it has turned around... hopefully they will keep packing onthe buds!

Keep em growing strong .
 
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