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Gquebed

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Merry Christmas!

Say... im about to pot some clones and throw them under the cobs.... but i have no idea how high the COBs should be above them or at what intensity.

Some advice would be very useful.
 

ttystikk

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Merry Christmas!

Say... im about to pot some clones and throw them under the cobs.... but i have no idea how high the COBs should be above them or at what intensity.

Some advice would be very useful.
If the chips are driven at 75-100W each: Start at 16" and drop 2" a day until you're happy.
 

GroErr

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Merry Christmas!

Say... im about to pot some clones and throw them under the cobs.... but i have no idea how high the COBs should be above them or at what intensity.

Some advice would be very useful.
Merry one to you! About to head off for a second round of too much food, legs are going to be sore from skiing to try and manage the belt line this week!

There's probably no wrong height as long as they don't bleach. Personally I try and avoid moving the lights too much so don't really know if small clones/seedlings would get too intense being closer to the lights. My tactic going into a new round is to place the lights where I think the plants will end up stretching to. Then I'll adjust them once at the end of stretch. So I start around 24-28" above then let them stretch into the lights. I'll be targeting to run them 14-16" next round, think I was a bit high this past round at 16-18". Cheers!
 

Gquebed

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Merry one to you! About to head off for a second round of too much food, legs are going to be sore from skiing to try and manage the belt line this week!

There's probably no wrong height as long as they don't bleach. Personally I try and avoid moving the lights too much so don't really know if small clones/seedlings would get too intense being closer to the lights. My tactic going into a new round is to place the lights where I think the plants will end up stretching to. Then I'll adjust them once at the end of stretch. So I start around 24-28" above then let them stretch into the lights. I'll be targeting to run them 14-16" next round, think I was a bit high this past round at 16-18". Cheers!
I figured i would start high and work my way down to figure it out. But then... i thought between you and @ttystick... you two probably already done some of that work so... just ask...lol

And given how much this stain will stretch on the flip i need to try and keep them compact as possible before that.

Cheers!
 

ttystikk

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I figured i would start high and work my way down to figure it out. But then... i thought between you and @ttystick... you two probably already done some of that work so... just ask...lol

And given how much this stain will stretch on the flip i need to try and keep them compact as possible before that.

Cheers!
Starting high and moving down gives the plants a few days to harden off to the new light and gives you a chance to see how they respond. Keeping them compact is a matter of giving them enough light intensity that they don't go stretching for it, without being so much that they burn.
 

Gquebed

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Starting high and moving down gives the plants a few days to harden off to the new light and gives you a chance to see how they respond. Keeping them compact is a matter of giving them enough light intensity that they don't go stretching for it, without being so much that they burn.
Ya exactly. And i have my routine down for HPS. Just not cobs.
 

GroErr

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I figured i would start high and work my way down to figure it out. But then... i thought between you and @ttystick... you two probably already done some of that work so... just ask...lol

And given how much this stain will stretch on the flip i need to try and keep them compact as possible before that.

Cheers!
Yeah different situations call for different ways of doing things. In my case by leaving the lights high and letting them stretch into the lights I get what I need. My plants go in with tight nodes from vegging with blurples. I depend on some stretch to open them up and get light to the bottom. I've noticed with the COBs I'm getting very little popcorn/larf, decent size and tight buds all the way down :)
 

Gquebed

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Yeah different situations call for different ways of doing things. In my case by leaving the lights high and letting them stretch into the lights I get what I need. My plants go in with tight nodes from vegging with blurples. I depend on some stretch to open them up and get light to the bottom. I've noticed with the COBs I'm getting very little popcorn/larf, decent size and tight buds all the way down :)
I found the same with my Romulan. It was a lanky plant with very little in the way of fan leaves (although the fan leaves were COLLOSAL) so even though the plants were almost 5' tall the light got down to the bottoms and made hard nugs. In fact, i didnt chop up a single bud on any of the plants for the hash bin. Not one...they were all solid...

I just dont want to do eight 5 footers in my space again...impossible to move in there..lol

So... do what i can to keep em squat. Next timeni run this strain ill take the time to set up a scrog...
 

GroErr

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I found the same with my Romulan. It was a lanky plant with very little in the way of fan leaves (although the fan leaves were COLLOSAL) so even though the plants were almost 5' tall the light got down to the bottoms and made hard nugs. In fact, i didnt chop up a single bud on any of the plants for the hash bin. Not one...they were all solid...

I just dont want to do eight 5 footers in my space again...impossible to move in there..lol

So... do what i can to keep em squat. Next timeni run this strain ill take the time to set up a scrog...
Yeah less popcorn means I'll have to be using more bud for sift/meds, terrible problem to have - lol

I'll have plenty for the hash bin this round, the 2x BPP 3 footers in 1gal at the back of the room have a QP between them will likely go straight to the bin. That strain is strong, the PPP side was quite potent, it just doesn't have much smell or flavour, but will make decent sift for meds.
 

GroErr

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Next up, coming out tonight or tomorrow morning, the Blue Ripper x Harlequin P1 in 2 gal is ready at Day 58. Ripe all the way down and frosty as f*k. Should be a very good yield for a 2gal plant straight up from seed, there's easily 60-70g dry on this thing. Solid buds and the natural structure of this plant is outstanding. Cannot wait to try this one, pretty sure there will be a bud "falling off" it as I remove it from the room ;) Smells very similar to the Harlequin mother which I call a tropical fruit smoothie pheno :)

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

Gquebed

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Yeah less popcorn means I'll have to be using more bud for sift/meds, terrible problem to have - lol

I'll have plenty for the hash bin this round, the 2x BPP 3 footers in 1gal at the back of the room have a QP between them will likely go straight to the bin. That strain is strong, the PPP side was quite potent, it just doesn't have much smell or flavour, but will make decent sift for meds.
Did you also find that the COBs seem to produce more resin on the spear leaves? Ive never seen so much... the leaves were actually curling on the edges because of it. Never saw anything like it. Maybe that was just my Roms... i dunno...
 

GroErr

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Did you also find that the COBs seem to produce more resin on the spear leaves? Ive never seen so much... the leaves were actually curling on the edges because of it. Never saw anything like it. Maybe that was just my Roms... i dunno...
Oh yeah for sure, that JTR I pulled was the loudest smell and frostiest run it's had. Pretty sure there's a correlation between the amount of frost and terps coming off them.
 

GroErr

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Some initial numbers looking good. Weighed up the first 3 plants that were dried and had a few days of cure. I count it all as to me the popcorn/trim is as valuable as bud for meds. But I kept the bud weights separate for those who weigh only buds.

JTR broke any previous weight records and finally got me over 1 oz./gal of medium in the 3 gal fabric. Best previous run was .74 and this one ended up at 126g total or 4.5 oz! With 103g/3.68 oz. of bud and 23g/.82 oz. of popcorn/trim or 1.23 oz./gal of medium :) That is a significant difference from any previous runs and gives me confidence in stating the COBs are out-producing the 315's. The difference is in the density, the buds are solid rocks :)

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The bonsai Plemon did well for the size it went in at. Came in at 49g/1.75 oz. of bud and 13g/.46 oz. of popcorn/trim.

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The smallest and lightest was the 1st Blue Ripper x Blue Dream P1 pheno from seed with no training. Some buds were seeded so I weighed them separate. 4.3g of trim, 4.8g (seeded) + 16.2 or 21g/.75 oz. of bud.

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So far, for the first 3 plants:

23g + 13g + 4g of trim = 40g/1.43 oz. of trim
103g + 49g + 21g of bud = 173g/6.18 oz. of bud

Only 10 more plants to go to come up with a total for the run ;)
 
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