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GroErr said:

You're on the right track, quality equipment is good all around, less hassles to focus on the grow. You should be Ok but you'll need to keep the light as high as possible and even then you'll be limited to 2ft plants or so. That's the other catch with height, you can't really take full advantage of the lights (yield) if the plants are less than 3ft. from the soil. If you're not concerned about maximum yield 2ft. plants are fine and can yield a decent amount of bud trained or scrogged. If you already have it give it a go and you can always go bigger later.

Edit: I'll be trying to fit my spare LEC into my 2x4x5' tent. For veg only so height shouldn't be a problem, just not sure how the heat will be.

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Well would like 10 to 12 zips on grow. I think if condition are good this light will produce with good strains

Perfectly fine brother. That's why I ordered a second tent from them. It was a step up from my smaller apollo tent but not as expensive as the gorilla. It has the height too. Just about done setting up my 3x3 and I will be putting one of my girls under the 315 LEC.......

Pig4buzz said:

Well would like 10 to 12 zips on grow. I think if condition are good this light will produce with good strains

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10-12 zips is not difficult, I average 9-10 with a mix of strains including some like Harlequin or Blue Pyramid which are low end producers. You have to fill a good 3x3'+ and 36"-42" in height to do 12+ zips in soil.

Got the Blue Dream (F) x Blue Ripper (M) (Dream Reaper?) F1's de-seeded. 47 nice fat one's to hunt through off a little side branch. That Blue Ripper stud is slut but he's making some nice babies




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GroErr said:

Got the Blue Dream (F) x Blue Ripper (M) (Dream Reaper?) F1's de-seeded. 47 nice fat one's to hunt through off a little side branch. That Blue Ripper stud is slut but he's making some nice babies

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I want one. Are you in Canada lol

I have some blue lights (blueberryxnorthern lights) from jordan of the islands I'm going to start soon, just waiting on the space lol

GroErr said:

Got the Blue Dream (F) x Blue Ripper (M) (Dream Reaper?) F1's de-seeded. 47 nice fat one's to hunt through off a little side branch. That Blue Ripper stud is slut but he's making some nice babies

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Dam those seeds look good share the love

GroErr said:

Got the Blue Dream (F) x Blue Ripper (M) (Dream Reaper?) F1's de-seeded. 47 nice fat one's to hunt through off a little side branch. That Blue Ripper stud is slut but he's making some nice babies

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Gratz on the beans GE =) Very pretty red. Dream Ripper or Ripped Dreams?

Boomy said:

I want one. Are you in Canada lol

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Lol, I happen to be in Canada These one's are a little early to release, may be enough in there to find develop and share down the road though

Evil-Mobo said:

Dam those seeds look good share the love

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I have when I run a larger batch like some Blue Ripper F2's that were pulled about 8 weeks ago, you could see some pop up here & there. Of course I wouldn't post anything about it on a public forum as that would be against site rules

Boomy said:

I have some blue lights (blueberryxnorthern lights) from jordan of the islands I'm going to start soon, just waiting on the space lol

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That could be a tasty and productive combination. I picked up some NL seeds during the 420 promos to see if I can find a worthy pheno to cross with that Blue Ripper stud when I get some space. Have to get some of the recent crosses going but it's in the line up. Have never grown NL, have smoked a decent pheno of it locally but he won't share a cut so I'll have to see if I can find one.

Been in the 90's so took a cool down break and de-seeded the Blue Ripper BX1 seeds. I had hit the original JTR that started the cross with the Blue Ripper F1 male. Working this cross in multiple paths to see if I can eventually get it stable and consistent. This pheno hunt will probably wait until end of summer when I'm around and can run them all in one shot.

So far all crosses with this male have produced dark brown/redish and larger than normal seeds. Just cloned him again for the 3rd time and won't cull the 1gal male until the clones have rooted. He's a week out of a party cup, already a foot tall with plenty of side branches for cloning, and smelling up the veg cabinet like I had something flowering in there. GF's calling him John (Holmes)




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IR shot of the flower room highlighting the buds at Day 36 under the COBs and Day 8 under the CMH. You can see some of the 3gal CMH plants near the door starting to stretch up and out. The bud development under the COBs has caught up a bit to where I'd expect them to be under CMH. Still slightly behind but not as noticeable as it was a week ago. The Blue Ripper colas are developing nicely. Tall/lanky Fireballs pheno behind the two Blue Ripper's has much smaller buds and much larger node spacing but looking good and smelling awesome. Both are starting to build frost, shots of the buds below are at Day 35.



Blue Ripper Day 35 under COBs:



Fireballs Day 35 under COBs:



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Mineralz said:

Gratz on the beans GE =) Very pretty red. Dream Ripper or Ripped Dreams?

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Hey thanks missed this earlier, too baked I like the Dream Ripper, keeps both names in there. Now the hard part of waiting 4 weeks before germinating them too early

GroErr said:

Hey thanks missed this earlier, too baked I like the Dream Ripper, keeps both names in there. Now the hard part of waiting 4 weeks before germinating them too early

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Is that a standard for breeding? You have to wait a month before you crack newly bred beans then correct? Like a curing stage or something? I dig the Dream Ripper as well =)

Mineralz said:

Is that a standard for breeding? You have to wait a month before you crack newly bred beans then correct? Like a curing stage or something? I dig the Dream Ripper as well =)

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Yeah they need to dry a bit or the germination rates suffer. 4-5 weeks seems to be when they hit good germ rates in my experience.

GroErr said:

Yeah they need to dry a bit or the germination rates suffer. 4-5 weeks seems to be when they hit good germ rates in my experience.

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Awesome. Thanks for the info. Didnt know that Thats y I <3 RIU....hope they bring good things your way man

Flower room after lights on. Day 36 and Day 8. Footprint under the COBs is about 2.5x4.5' and will end up ~3x4' under the CMH. Room is maxed out end-to-end once those 3gal plants finish stretching






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In the flower room last night and just sharing some observations and opinions on what I've seen so far using COBs in one half and CMH on the other.

First I took a step back and thought wholly crap that's a lot of footprint for 615w. 300w of COBs and 315w of CMH covering 3x8.5'. Try that with a 600w hps bulb

The other thing that stood out while I was watering the plants under the COBs was the smell coming off the Blue Ripper 2 pheno. I know smell is subjective but I've noticed this before under COBs in my 2x2 tent and I've run this BR pheno enough times to know how it smells. Normally at this point I'd be sticking my nose into the flowers to catch a good whiff of the terps. But last night I was just bending down to stick the watering can nozzle into the pot and it was like a wave of that blueberry perfume smell hit me in the face. Not sure why it is but COBs enhance/bring out the terps which was one of the big reasons I wanted to run some COBs in this room.

I'd previously mentioned to consider the environmental effects associated with running COBs. Particularly an all-COB room when switching from hps or CMH. I quantified my thoughts on this which is the heat/RH factor and how it can affect RH in particular. Temps haven't changed much, overall temp in the room is ~1.5 to 2F lower but RH had been averaging 5% higher before adjustments and I had to tweak my inbound and exhaust to lower it. Then I threw in the new batch of 5x 3gal + 3x 5gal that were in there, totalling 30gal of medium in the room and more in line with the capacity/coverage I can run in there with this combination of lighting. I had to make further adjustments which I didn't have to do the odd time I had run the same amount of medium under 2x LEC's, RH jumped another 5% when I threw the new batch in.

Last thing I'll mention is the difference in maturity compared to CMH. No complaints or much difference in overall growth after about week 3 (CMH seems to have a greater effect on them through stretch, likely due to the colour temp differences of my veg lights). Overall growth now heading towards week 6 is closer. But maturity is definitely behind still and I'd expect to see them go 4-6 days longer. Buds are building/fattening well, just not maturing as fast, hairs are primarily still white whereas under CMH at this point I'd be seeing more mature hairs.

Enough chat, some pics of the Blue Ripper 2 pheno at Day 38 under the COBs:





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Is the blue ripper your geno? Or you purchase seeds/clones?

Pig4buzz said:

Is the blue ripper your geno? Or you purchase seeds/clones?

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Yeah that's a second pheno from an F1 cross I started about 1 1/2 years ago. Found it about 9 months ago in a pheno hunt through the F1's. It's my JTR female crossed with a Blueberry male. I have another that produces better but this pheno has more taste and smell, plus a great instant body stone. Also have an F2 pheno I just found that's fire, blueberry and strong hash smell and taste, heavy head stone. It's the first one on the left in the new 3gal batch I threw into the flower room. I'll continue crossing it until I can produce a consistent/stable fire pheno.