Grow 1: Day 1, 4xGirl Scout Cookies, 2x240w blackstar LED, 1closet=WE WILL FIND OUT!!

Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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Ninjabowler said:
Theres probly not a defficiancy yet, (sorry bakatar), theyre to young and in ffof so they should be fine. Just make damn sure that you are waiting untill they are almost bone dry and the containers feel nice and light when you pick them up. If your over watering them youll just compound the problems they have already. Youll notice that they will grow the most when they are near dry. You will notice the growth from the top center and it should be lighter green than the rest of the plant. Should be happening soon :)
Also i need you to do somthing for me please. In the center of your room theres an electrical box. You need to get that box off the floor. Thats a fire hazard and it could cause damage to your lights if it gets wet. You could short them out or worse, give yourself a new hair doo. I know your probly very carefull but i am too and i still managed to kick over a bucket and nearly hit a ballast with it. Ten minutes later i had all my electrical mounted on the wall and the ballasts on milk crates.
To conclude, the ffof should be great for having fertz in it, i use it and have been going for a while only adding mimimal nutes to two month old plants with no problems. The lights look great. The plants just need some time so dont fek with them and dont over water them. My friend from cali says that the girlscout cookies is a wonderful strain so youll be happy with them for sure. Oh and sorry about bmeat. Hes like herpes, we cant get rid of him. He means well but hes a fucking twat. Good luck :):):)
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No prob man, I think you misunderstood me though.
What I was getting at, I was thinking he might have gotten hold of that same soil that we heard about a few weeks ago that people were complaining about burning.
And, one of my posts floating around I told meat that his mother should have named him Herpes.
 
natro.hydro

natro.hydro

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as ninja said I never said anything about a dome, but if his room is at 40%, which is probable during the winter months if he does not have a humidifier, then he needs to get on that shit asap or the stomata on his leaf are being choked, they need moisture just as much as they need co2. But I could easily see it being what ninja said about light spacing since I did the same thing to my girls not that long ago. From what I have heard of blackstars the lense can make the light pretty intense on your girls if I am not mistaken, gotta let them get used to that much usable light. I have not used blackstars but most leds to my knowledge have a lens to intensify light and spread it out, only ones I have seen without were these garbage chinese lights my buddy bought for 40 bucks a pop, bought 8 red and 8 blue, he did not get a harvest to say the least lol. And sorry to post in your thread and start a slight controversy (more meets presence than my comment) but none the less you said no bs unless you ask for help I am now just an observer
 
Ghettobird209

Ghettobird209

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Bakatare666 said:
I hate to say it, but the first thing that comes to mind, since you have not fed (right?) yet, is a few weeks ago there was a handful of people within a couple week period that were having burning issues, and they were all using FFOF, like maybe a bad batch from the factory or something.
You are not letting water stay in the saucers, are you?
They're droopy, which makes me want to say overwatered, but that would not account for the burned tips.
Here's a chart you can peep and save, may give you some ideas, but good to save for later anyway-I did.:mrgreen:View attachment 2513802View attachment 2513803
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Ty for the those pics! very helpful but i seriously doubt its my soil because as i said they have looked droopy and like this sense before i transplanted. Sense i transplanted two of them are looking very strong the other two are looking about the same as when i transplanted.
natro.hydro said:
My first guess is humidity because they are clones, what is your rh and temp?
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Yes i wouldnt know my Humidity..... the temp is 79F
bmeat said:
theyre rooted, they dont need a dome anymore
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GTFO
Ninjabowler said:
Whats up ghettobird! I love the fact that you have two of those leds hangin up there. Im guessing that your going to take them all the way through flower with straight led. It should turn out just fine. I run a htg supply 240 w led in my veg and i find that the plants under it stay verry short and stout with tight internodal spacing. I like the led results in veg although ive never flowered with them.
id say that when you start the plants its fine to have them at 16 ". Those lights take a little time for the plant to get used to them. After a while they can take it closer but dont nuke them off the hop.
The spots on the leaf look as if they may be light burn. What did you have on them to start with? Cfls? Did they get too close? Sometimes it takes a couple of days for light burn to show up. Id just let it grow out on the one in the center of the leaf and cut off the tip thats burned. Those clones dont look very healthy but i think for now it would be wise to just let them do their thing. Theres probly not a defficiancy yet, (sorry bakatar), theyre to young and in ffof so they should be fine. Just make damn sure that you are waiting untill they are almost bone dry and the containers feel nice and light when you pick them up. If your over watering them youll just compound the problems they have already. Youll notice that they will grow the most when they are near dry. You will notice the growth from the top center and it should be lighter green than the rest of the plant. Should be happening soon :)
Also i need you to do somthing for me please. In the center of your room theres an electrical box. You need to get that box off the floor. Thats a fire hazard and it could cause damage to your lights if it gets wet. You could short them out or worse, give yourself a new hair doo. I know your probly very carefull but i am too and i still managed to kick over a bucket and nearly hit a ballast with it. Ten minutes later i had all my electrical mounted on the wall and the ballasts on milk crates.
To conclude, the ffof should be great for having fertz in it, i use it and have been going for a while only adding mimimal nutes to two month old plants with no problems. The lights look great. The plants just need some time so dont fek with them and dont over water them. My friend from cali says that the girlscout cookies is a wonderful strain so youll be happy with them for sure. Oh and sorry about bmeat. Hes like herpes, we cant get rid of him. He means well but hes a fucking twat. Good luck :):):)
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Thanks! Check in here in a couple months for my end results!!! im hoping they come out great as well. To be quite honest im not sure what they were started out with i bought them from a cannabis club and i didnt notice they where droopy or burnt yellowish looking until i went to transplant them! It cant be from soil because they look BETTER sense transplant. Only two of them look about the same with some small growth. and there is already alot of growth!!! im seeing more and more little leaf's popping out every where on two plants and once again the other two are falling behind!!! Hmmmmm i guess time will tell. I did not over water i have drip pans that showed clear good drainage and i cleaned the drip pans.

Bakatare666 said:
No prob man, I think you misunderstood me though.
What I was getting at, I was thinking he might have gotten hold of that same soil that we heard about a few weeks ago that people were complaining about burning.
And, one of my posts floating around I told meat that his mother should have named him Herpes.
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Lmao shit no one likes herpes!!!!!!!!!!
natro.hydro said:
as ninja said I never said anything about a dome, but if his room is at 40%, which is probable during the winter months if he does not have a humidifier, then he needs to get on that shit asap or the stomata on his leaf are being choked, they need moisture just as much as they need co2. But I could easily see it being what ninja said about light spacing since I did the same thing to my girls not that long ago. From what I have heard of blackstars the lense can make the light pretty intense on your girls if I am not mistaken, gotta let them get used to that much usable light. I have not used blackstars but most leds to my knowledge have a lens to intensify light and spread it out, only ones I have seen without were these garbage chinese lights my buddy bought for 40 bucks a pop, bought 8 red and 8 blue, he did not get a harvest to say the least lol. And sorry to post in your thread and start a slight controversy (more meets presence than my comment) but none the less you said no bs unless you ask for help I am now just an observer
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Sense being at about 10-12" the plants look like they are loving it!!!
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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Sounds like you're going now, those other two might just finish a little later, and give you a break, instead of having to trim everything in one day.;-)
I'm waiting to read your post about how much you hate trimming, after your first. LOL
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

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natro.hydro said:
as ninja said I never said anything about a dome, but if his room is at 40%, which is probable during the winter months if he does not have a humidifier, then he needs to get on that shit asap or the stomata on his leaf are being choked, they need moisture just as much as they need co2. But I could easily see it being what ninja said about light spacing since I did the same thing to my girls not that long ago. From what I have heard of blackstars the lense can make the light pretty intense on your girls if I am not mistaken, gotta let them get used to that much usable light. I have not used blackstars but most leds to my knowledge have a lens to intensify light and spread it out, only ones I have seen without were these garbage chinese lights my buddy bought for 40 bucks a pop, bought 8 red and 8 blue, he did not get a harvest to say the least lol. And sorry to post in your thread and start a slight controversy (more meets presence than my comment) but none the less you said no bs unless you ask for help I am now just an observer
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no man, it was meatballs comment i was refering to, your good shit ;)
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

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Ghettobird209 said:
Ty for the those pics! very helpful but i seriously doubt its my soil because as i said they have looked droopy and like this sense before i transplanted. Sense i transplanted two of them are looking very strong the other two are looking about the same as when i transplanted.

Yes i wouldnt know my Humidity..... the temp is 79F

GTFO


Thanks! Check in here in a couple months for my end results!!! im hoping they come out great as well. To be quite honest im not sure what they were started out with i bought them from a cannabis club and i didnt notice they where droopy or burnt yellowish looking until i went to transplant them! It cant be from soil because they look BETTER sense transplant. Only two of them look about the same with some small growth. and there is already alot of growth!!! im seeing more and more little leaf's popping out every where on two plants and once again the other two are falling behind!!! Hmmmmm i guess time will tell. I did not over water i have drip pans that showed clear good drainage and i cleaned the drip pans.



Lmao shit no one likes herpes!!!!!!!!!!

Sense being at about 10-12" the plants look like they are loving it!!!
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ya bud, good to hear that everythings well, you got the good soil,great lights, and RIU in your corner. Feel free to PM any questions my way. Cheers :):):)
 
Ghettobird209

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Bakatare666 said:
Sounds like you're going now, those other two might just finish a little later, and give you a break, instead of having to trim everything in one day.;-)
I'm waiting to read your post about how much you hate trimming, after your first. LOL
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Ninjabowler said:
ya bud, good to hear that everythings well, you got the good soil,great lights, and RIU in your corner. Feel free to PM any questions my way. Cheers :):):)
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Thanks both of you for your help!! LMAO from couple of my buddies they say its fuckin nuts! sucks!!!!!! but shit worth it to me i guess? ill find out!!So from the sounds of both of you it seems the problem im seeing obviously was from previous conditions either the grower or the club did it, and now it is ok its starting to get better, and i should just leave the ugly looking leafs on the plant because shes still using them for food correct??

Amysd said:
True girl scouts are some bay area geary st original swag #BayAreaGenetics
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hahah hell yeah straight hemp center shit
 
Ghettobird209

Ghettobird209

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Ninjabowler said:
Whats up ghettobird! I love the fact that you have two of those leds hangin up there. Im guessing that your going to take them all the way through flower with straight led. It should turn out just fine. I run a htg supply 240 w led in my veg and i find that the plants under it stay verry short and stout with tight internodal spacing. I like the led results in veg although ive never flowered with them.
id say that when you start the plants its fine to have them at 16 ". Those lights take a little time for the plant to get used to them. After a while they can take it closer but dont nuke them off the hop.
The spots on the leaf look as if they may be light burn. What did you have on them to start with? Cfls? Did they get too close? Sometimes it takes a couple of days for light burn to show up. Id just let it grow out on the one in the center of the leaf and cut off the tip thats burned. Those clones dont look very healthy but i think for now it would be wise to just let them do their thing. Theres probly not a defficiancy yet, (sorry bakatar), theyre to young and in ffof so they should be fine. Just make damn sure that you are waiting untill they are almost bone dry and the containers feel nice and light when you pick them up. If your over watering them youll just compound the problems they have already. Youll notice that they will grow the most when they are near dry. You will notice the growth from the top center and it should be lighter green than the rest of the plant. Should be happening soon :)
Also i need you to do somthing for me please. In the center of your room theres an electrical box. You need to get that box off the floor. Thats a fire hazard and it could cause damage to your lights if it gets wet. You could short them out or worse, give yourself a new hair doo. I know your probly very carefull but i am too and i still managed to kick over a bucket and nearly hit a ballast with it. Ten minutes later i had all my electrical mounted on the wall and the ballasts on milk crates.
To conclude, the ffof should be great for having fertz in it, i use it and have been going for a while only adding mimimal nutes to two month old plants with no problems. The lights look great. The plants just need some time so dont fek with them and dont over water them. My friend from cali says that the girlscout cookies is a wonderful strain so youll be happy with them for sure. Oh and sorry about bmeat. Hes like herpes, we cant get rid of him. He means well but hes a fucking twat. Good luck :):):)
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By the way yes i plan on using these two lights through flowering!! hopefully it'll go good! :bigjoint: Also im not sure what to do about that damn electrical box!! should i just put it higher on the shelf above the lights? I was doing quite a bit of research on these 240w blackstars and they all say 10-12" for flowering? so im not sure about veg but thats what its about at right now! at first it was at id say like 18"!!!!! then i moved it and they really liked it so i hope it continues! once again any advice is helpful thanks guys! :leaf:

And wtf can we get like a moderator to ban him or....?(BMEAT) cuz he really doesnt know how to stop.....
 
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bmeat

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keep them at what the distance they say to. the bulbs are at a certain angle that work the best at a certain amount of inches/feet away.
 
Ghettobird209

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bmeat said:
keep them at what the distance they say to. the bulbs are at a certain angle that work the best at a certain amount of inches/feet away.
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dude do you just sit at your computer all day long? cuz when i started posting on RIU on thurs last week you 830 posts, now 1130? wtf>>>????
 
Ghettobird209

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Bakatare666 said:
And out of those 300, I'll bet none were listened to, helpful, or intelligent.
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haha i agree with that!!


any who so real talk is it normal for them to "start" at differrent times? like how two of them are taking off after the transplant and two of them are going veeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy slow!!!!

Two of them already have a couple new small small 5set of leafs (almost the 7 leaf!) and more and more what look like little white hairs are poping out? it seems that those white hairs pop out and then 12hrs later when i check on them again they (white hairs) are turning into leafs, is this correct?
 
natro.hydro

natro.hydro

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Prob just some transplant shock, happens too everyone. Did you use any myco when you transplanted? I put a lil in the transplant area and seems to help especially if they are close to being root bound
 
natro.hydro

natro.hydro

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my bad, slang term for mycorrhizae. It is a beneficial fungus for your roots, I am still trying to learn more about the stuff but it def helps come transplant time and there are a lot of different products out there, I hear a lot of people use HN great white but have not tried it since I myself have only recently started using the stuff. The difference in health of your transplants is def noticeable, can not remember what soil you said you used but if it was FF happy frog then it should have myco, I use Ocean forest, while it is organic I do not think it says anything about myco and so I mix a lil light warrior in usually too just for a lil more myco.
EDIT: went back and looked your using OF too, not bad stuff but like I said, do not have a bag next to me, I don't think it has myco
 
Ghettobird209

Ghettobird209

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natro.hydro said:
my bad, slang term for mycorrhizae. It is a beneficial fungus for your roots, I am still trying to learn more about the stuff but it def helps come transplant time and there are a lot of different products out there, I hear a lot of people use HN great white but have not tried it since I myself have only recently started using the stuff. The difference in health of your transplants is def noticeable, can not remember what soil you said you used but if it was FF happy frog then it should have myco, I use Ocean forest, while it is organic I do not think it says anything about myco and so I mix a lil light warrior in usually too just for a lil more myco.
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sorry still catching up on all the terms and slang for everything! Thanks for the advice though i'll look around! and Im using Just FF Ocean Forest so im probably on the same boat as you!Thats nice to know though that others have the same problem! Im hoping to see them start there growth as there brothers are doing some time soon!! Real talk though the other two are lookin good :joint:
 
natro.hydro

natro.hydro

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Ghettobird209 said:
sorry still catching up on all the terms and slang for everything! Thanks for the advice though i'll look around! and Im using Just FF Ocean Forest so im probably on the same boat as you!Thats nice to know though that others have the same problem! Im hoping to see them start there growth as there brothers are doing some time soon!! Real talk though the other two are lookin good :joint:
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I know they are clones but that shit is bad luck to call your girls guys man lol, make em gender confused and shit. And ya after going back and reading we are in the same boat, but like I said I start in light warrior and amend the next transplant from seedling with a little light warrior. Haven't had any nute burn with OF since I started doing this as well... something to think about.
 
Ghettobird209

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natro.hydro said:
I know they are clones but that shit is bad luck to call your girls guys man lol, make em gender confused and shit. And ya after going back and reading we are in the same boat, but like I said I start in light warrior and amend the next transplant from seedling with a little light warrior. Haven't had any nute burn with OF since I started doing this as well... something to think about.
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haha ok shit they are my girls but i was just refering but shit i did fuck up but they didnt hear me there in the other room in the closet shhhhh ;P hmmmm well would idk if im going to be able to have any room to transplant to bigger pots? my room size is 8'x2'8'
 
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