*Gummies~ using Northern Lights Flower

LeastExpectedGrower · Jul 21, 2022

OldMedUser said:
Supposedly the lecithin binds to the cannabinoids and helps them pass from the gut into the bloodstream. When cooking bud in coconut oil I would add the lecithin after the mix cooled below 100C/212F and let if cook then strain out the bud. Then I had read that you should freeze and thaw it twice to bind it all up so I do that with the coconut oil or other oil cooks like it but didn't with the chocolates. They got froze overnight tho.

Be careful freezing chocolate. I do know that you can 'break' the temper and the fat-solids will start blooming (chalky on the outside) more easily once frozen.

OldMedUser · Jul 22, 2022

LeastExpectedGrower said:
Be careful freezing chocolate. I do know that you can 'break' the temper and the fat-solids will start blooming (chalky on the outside) more easily once frozen.

Ah. So that's what happened. They are a little chalky looking on the outside but taste alright.

There was no room in the fridge so I stuck them in the deep freezer and forgot about them. Was going to give them 15min but you know how it goes.

Thanks for that tid-bit. I'll be more careful next time and set the timer on my phone if I do that again.

:peace:

LeastExpectedGrower · Jul 22, 2022

OldMedUser said:
Ah. So that's what happened. They are a little chalky looking on the outside but taste alright.

There was no room in the fridge so I stuck them in the deep freezer and forgot about them. Was going to give them 15min but you know how it goes.

Thanks for that tid-bit. I'll be more careful next time and set the timer on my phone if I do that again.

A place where my actual food/cooking knowledge comes in usefully.

shnkrmn · Jul 23, 2022

I have been using xanthan gum rather than lecithin. It's a very fine powder that incorporates very rapidly and emulsifies everything.

LeastExpectedGrower · Jul 23, 2022

shnkrmn said:
I have been using xanthan gum rather than lecithin. It's a very fine powder that incorporates very rapidly and emulsifies everything.View attachment 5168579

Any other thoughts on how it compares? How does it do for keeping things stable after the fact? Etc.?

shnkrmn · Jul 23, 2022

LeastExpectedGrower said:
Any other thoughts on how it compares? How does it do for keeping things stable after the fact? Etc.?

No issues at all. It hits the mix being whisked and just vanishes. No oil leaking later or anything.

I had it on hand to stabilize homemade hot sauce.

OldMedUser · Jul 23, 2022

shnkrmn said:
I have been using xanthan gum rather than lecithin. It's a very fine powder that incorporates very rapidly and emulsifies everything.View attachment 5168579

I got both xanthan and guar gums to cover those bases and some potassium sorbate as mould can be a problem I've heard.

How big of batches are folks making? It takes 768ml, (4ml x 192), to fill all the cavities in one of my molds so may do a run with no pot in it to see how that goes first. Don't want to waste any meds if it doesn't work well the first time.

Still waiting on amazon to get everything here so I can make a batch! Got lots of the chocolate ones left.

:peace:

PioneerValleyOG · Jul 23, 2022

Dr.Amber Trichome said:
Tastes amazing and very potent. I was tripping and had intense mental fragmentation . Hit me like a hammer and complete rocked my world.
Such a clean natural buzz. Got
Me tripping for 4 hours.

A bit too strong , so next batch I’m cutting the dose in half . And my decarb method im going to change to 240 degrees at 45 minutes although this last one worked a charm. I ordered an oven temperature gauge to make sure I’m hitting 240 degrees and no more.

I have to also stir on low for as long as possible without it drying up . 10- 15 minutes instead of the 5-7 in this batch.

Ummmmm, no, no, recipe sounds just about right.
Some of my cannabutter produces similar effects. Just got to be ready to hang on for the ride.
Awesome job!

Dr.Amber Trichome · Jul 23, 2022

PioneerValleyOG said:
Ummmmm, no, no, recipe sounds just about right.
Some of my cannabutter produces similar effects. Just got to be ready to hang on for the ride.

Ummm, sure. Good luck.

PioneerValleyOG · Jul 24, 2022

Dr.Amber Trichome said:
Ummm, sure. Good luck.

Was just kidding, Dr. , jeez.
I'll reiterate. it sounds like your gummies were way too strong, wow! I've had similar issues with butter, finding the correct dose can be a challenge. Once in a while I like it that strong, but definitely not every time.
I woke up out if a dead sleep high as I've ever been with ripping cottonmouth once.
Ps your weed looks amazing.

Dr.Amber Trichome · Jul 24, 2022

PioneerValleyOG said:
Was just kidding, Dr. , jeez.
I'll reiterate. it sounds like your gummies were way too strong, wow! I've had similar issues with butter, finding the correct dose can be a challenge. Once in a while I like it that strong, but definitely not every time.
I woke up out if a dead sleep high as I've ever been with ripping cottonmouth once.
Ps your weed looks amazing.

Thanks. It is.

shredder4 · Jul 24, 2022

shnkrmn said:
I have been using xanthan gum rather than lecithin. It's a very fine powder that incorporates very rapidly and emulsifies everything.View attachment 5168579

As I understand it's a thickener?

Lecithin emulsifies and makes for quicker absorption. It works by making large canna oil molecules smaller. Then it passes through digestive walls easier making it more efficient to use imho. I doubt a thickener would do that.

LeastExpectedGrower · Jul 24, 2022

OldMedUser said:
I got both xanthan and guar gums to cover those bases and some potassium sorbate as mould can be a problem I've heard.

How big of batches are folks making? It takes 768ml, (4ml x 192), to fill all the cavities in one of my molds so may do a run with no pot in it to see how that goes first. Don't want to waste any meds if it doesn't work well the first time.

Still waiting on amazon to get everything here so I can make a batch! Got lots of the chocolate ones left.

I have some bear molds coming in that I think are ~1ml each bear, and I did the math to match what a Jello recipe says it makes (I think 2 cups worth) and ordered in that many molds. I also have some round/sphere molds coming in that are 3ml each. The plan is for the smaller ones to be somewhere in the 10mg and the bigger ones to be maybe 20 or so.

LeastExpectedGrower · Jul 24, 2022

PioneerValleyOG said:
Was just kidding, Dr. , jeez.
I'll reiterate. it sounds like your gummies were way too strong, wow! I've had similar issues with butter, finding the correct dose can be a challenge. Once in a while I like it that strong, but definitely not every time.
I woke up out if a dead sleep high as I've ever been with ripping cottonmouth once.
Ps your weed looks amazing.

Lots of calculators that help take the work out of your dose/titration on the internet. I use this one:

The Most Accurate Edible Dosage Calculator

Here you will find the most accurate edibles dosage calculator available online to help you guesstimate the potency of your homemade cannabis edibles, recipes, and creations.

emilykylenutrition.com

You should be able to figure out give or take what you're making per serving pretty effectively...Its worked for me with a bunch of different stuff...though you may need to fuss with some conversions along the way.

OldMedUser · Jul 24, 2022

LeastExpectedGrower said:
I have some bear molds coming in that I think are ~1ml each bear, and I did the math to match what a Jello recipe says it makes (I think 2 cups worth) and ordered in that many molds. I also have some round/sphere molds coming in that are 3ml each. The plan is for the smaller ones to be somewhere in the 10mg and the bigger ones to be maybe 20 or so.

I could have got much cheaper moulds but wanted ones with CBD and THC logos so spent the dough and ordered from the states to get them. $40US each but by the time they got here it was $150Can in all. I think they have a sale on now too at pjbold.com. They have a bunch of pot related molds for gummies, lollipops etc and even some cookie stamps that aren't much. Non pot related ones too like bears etc.

1ml seem really small to me. If the damn things are tasty tho and you make the dosage lower then you can chow down on a few when you get the munchies without ODing on the damn things.

PioneerValleyOG · Jul 24, 2022

LeastExpectedGrower said:
Lots of calculators that help take the work out of your dose/titration on the internet. I use this one:

The Most Accurate Edible Dosage Calculator

Here you will find the most accurate edibles dosage calculator available online to help you guesstimate the potency of your homemade cannabis edibles, recipes, and creations.

emilykylenutrition.com

You should be able to figure out give or take what you're making per serving pretty effectively...Its worked for me with a bunch of different stuff...though you may need to fuss with some conversions along the way.

This is great information! The issue i seem to have is the fluctuations of different strengths of flower. So I have to test my finished product with body weight. Also, some of my friends react differently, what's a buzz for some is a sleep for others.

LeastExpectedGrower · Jul 25, 2022

PioneerValleyOG said:
This is great information! The issue i seem to have is the fluctuations of different strengths of flower. So I have to test my finished product with body weight. Also, some of my friends react differently, what's a buzz for some is a sleep for others.

I usually start with what the seed dealer says, then. knock it down a few percent...given they seldom are accurate and I know that I'm not an optimal grower, so I'm not getting whatever their results are.

LeastExpectedGrower · Jul 25, 2022

OldMedUser said:
I could have got much cheaper moulds but wanted ones with CBD and THC logos so spent the dough and ordered from the states to get them. $40US each but by the time they got here it was $150Can in all. I think they have a sale on now too at pjbold.com. They have a bunch of pot related molds for gummies, lollipops etc and even some cookie stamps that aren't much. Non pot related ones too like bears etc.

1ml seem really small to me. If the damn things are tasty tho and you make the dosage lower then you can chow down on a few when you get the munchies without ODing on the damn things.

I generally take a low dose before bed, somewhere in that 10-15mg and it hits me just right to sleep well but not really get 'high' from 'em. I figure at 10mg for smalls, one or two for that effect...then if I'm looking for more of a ride, a few of them. But yeah, all reviews said they're 'small bears' which is fine. Then the 3mg ones are probably closer to what most people are used to seeing.

Again, I've been doing chocolate and other treats, so this will be my first round of gummies. We'll see how it all falls in place.

shredder4 · Jul 25, 2022

@OldMedUser I like to use tsp, and cups as measuring data points when figuring small doses.

My small mj leaf molds hold 1/2 tsp each. There are 48 tsp in one cup and so that's 96, 1/2 tsp doses in one cup for that mold, give or take a couple either way.

Another mold holds 2 tsp, so one cup gives me 24 doses.

Then of course divide the total thc by the doses.

I'm with @LeastExpectedGrower on figuring thc. I use numbers lower than a dispensary or seed catalog advertises, and find that works best for me. If bud x is advertised at 20% I use 17% in my calculations.

And for what it's worth I have rarely ate a dispensary edible that seemed close to the listed dose. They all seem weak. I can easily eat 50mg of dispensary edibles and barely feel anything although I typically use 35-40mg for my homemade edibles. A dose that seems to suit my wife and I.

LeastExpectedGrower · Jul 25, 2022

shredder4 said:
@OldMedUser I like to use tsp, and cups as measuring data points when figuring small doses.

My small mj leaf molds hold 1/2 tsp each. There are 48 tsp in one cup and so that's 96, 1/2 tsp doses in one cup for that mold, give or take a couple either way.

Another mold holds 2 tsp, so one cup gives me 24 doses.

Then of course divide the total thc by the doses.

I'm with @LeastExpectedGrower on figuring thc. I use numbers lower than a dispensary or seed catalog advertises, and find that works best for me. If bud x is advertised at 20% I use 17% in my calculations.

And for what it's worth have rarely ate a dispensary edible that seemed close to the listed dose. They all seem weak. I can easily eat 50mg of dispensary edibles and barely feel anything although I typically use 35-40mg for my homemade edibles. A dose that seems to suit my wife and i.

Yeah, that's about what I do...also, that calculator I linked also can adjust for loss during decarb. I'll be interested to see what happens since I'm now doing two short washes, the second with a fresh batch of decarb. I know that by going short, I'm leaving some potency on the table, but I'm doubling up on the amount per batch.

I do know that I handed off a few things to a friend who goes harder than I do and at my 'suggested serving' she said 'oh...that was nice.' So I assume that I'm in the ballpark.

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