gun law reform... please!
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Canna Sylvan
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At least double that have died due to self induced violence rather than endure any more liberal propaganda, people like you, spew.
It doesn't matter how many shells it holds, most states require you to have a dummy rod in the magazine so it can only hold 2 shells maximum. Hunting regulations and all.
I don't believe that one bit. In Wisconsin you can only take a maximum of 2 bucks, one by archery one by firearm. Period.
Your uncle is poaching deer on his own land. It is ILLEGAL! Your uncle may own the land, but he doesn't own the animals.
Dr Kynes
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even in california, hunting on private land is not controlled by license, season, time of day or limits. one does not need a permit to kill pest deer, at any time of year. deer hunting permits and tags are for those who wish to hunt in state operated preserves parks and sanctuaries.
some counties have attempted to restrict hunting on the private lands of the rural people, but they cannot police farms and ranches. the laws some counties pass to ban hunting on private lands are merely an attempt by the urban to control the rural. city slickers love to see a noble buck raising it's antlers above a field, but farmers dont care much for critters that kick over fences and destroy more crops than they eat.
Guns are not the problem. If they were, then why do the Swiss have one of the lower rates of murder in the world and essentially no gun violence? They have the most heavily armed populace in the world, and trained to do damage to boot. More people die from vehicles by far in the USA, but I don't see many people wanting to outlaw highways, make a maximum 30 mph speed limit, or anything else like that. Why? Oh, thats right, because it is a one of the political BS things that are used to tie people to parties like abortion and racism. Guns prevent hundreds of thousands of crimes every year, and one can only imagine that in some of those crimes that people were saved by having guns. My big issue with gun control is this:
The Supreme Court ruled that the government has no duty to protect the citizens of the country from harm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
If the Government doesn't have a responsibility to protect you then who does? YOU DO. If the Government then removes your ability to protect yourself, then I can only conclude that the government is fucking retarded. Below is the info from the link I provided. It is the story of three women being raped because the government doesn't care.
Warren v. District of Columbia[SUP][1][/SUP] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981) is an oft-quoted[SUP][2][/SUP] District of Columbia Court of Appeals (equivalent to a state supreme court) case that held police do not have a duty to provide police services to individuals, even if a dispatcher promises help to be on the way, except when police develop a special duty to particular individuals.
In this case, three rape victims sued the District of Columbia for negligence on the part of the police. Two of three female roommates were upstairs when they heard men break in and attack the third. They phoned the police, reporting that their house was being burglarized, and waited on the roof. Their call was incorrectly dispatched as less important than it was three minutes after they made the call, and three police cars came to the scene, three minutes after the call was dispatched. One policeman drove by without stopping, and another officer walked up to the door and knocked. Upon receiving no answer, the officers left five minutes after they had arrived. Nine minutes later, the two women called the police again and were assured they would receive assistance. This call was never dispatched and the police never came. Believing that the police had arrived and were in the house, the two women called down to the third who was being attacked. This alerted the intruders to their presence, and they then took them captive at knife-point. They were then raped, robbed, beaten, and forced to submit to the attackers' sexual demands for the next fourteen hours. The court noted that because the police are only under a general duty to provide services to the public at large, a special relationship must exist between the police and the individual in question for the "duty" element of negligence to be satisfied. It held that no such special relationship existed so the case was properly dismissed by the trial court for failure to state a claim and the case never went to trial.[
It seems kind of screwed up to consider shooting animals on your own land poaching.
MuyLocoNC
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And 1,118 of them could have realized a different outcome if they had either chosen to or been allowed to arm themselves. But, I'm sure they're resting peacefully with the knowledge that Progressives know best and the police are feverishly trying to bring their killers to justice.
Rob Roy
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Some 92 year old guy in Boone, KY. just defended his life by shooting an intruder....Not all gun deaths are actions of offense, some are defensive.
ChesusRice
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YOU SIR ARE A FUCKiNG IDIOT
Regulations you should know for hunting on lands enrolled in the damage program.
Hunting access during the open seasons
In order for farmers to be eligible for damage compensation they must provide hunting access to the public for the species they are enrolled for - generally deer - during the regular open hunting season(s) for that species. Public hunting access requirement may apply to property the farmer owns or leases.
Farmers have two options for providing access to hunters during the open seasons.
- Managed Access: The farmer can limit access to 2 hunters per 40 acres of land suitable for hunting. (The county damage specialist determines the amount of land suitable for hunting. Open fields are not considered land suitable for hunting). All hunters must ask permission of the farmer prior to hunting and must sign in on the farmer's log book. This is the most common option chosen by farmers.
- Open Access: Any number of hunters may hunt on the farmer's land during the open season. All hunters must notify the farmer of their intent to hunt on the farmer's land.
Agricultural damage shooting permit program
Farmers who receive agricultural damage shooting permits have the option to provide some of their tags to hunters who would like to help them shoot deer, bear, turkeys or geese that are damaging their crops. Again, farmers are not required to allow hunters to use their damage tags. The permits are valid both inside and outside of the regular hunting seasons.
List of farmers who have received damage shooting permits
These lands may not be open to public hunting. Please check the list above for farmers enrolled whose properties are open to public hunting.
http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/WildlifeHabitat/hunt.html
canndo
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Funny thing. SCOTUS ruled that the government is not obligated to protect citizens from citizens - that includes the unborn, doesn't it.
canndo
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Now do you know none of them were armed?
Antidisestablishmentarian
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Since this thread has started, 2,744 people have died in traffic accidents.
MuyLocoNC
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I sure don't. I just like making arbitrary, dumbass responses to arbitrary, dumbass statements.
Since his statement didn't take into account suicides, defensive shootings or any other kind of qualifiers, I figured my response should be just as vague and pointless.
Mr Neutron
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Well then, the next time you are attacked by an unborn child, blow 'em away.
Canna Sylvan
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3-S treatment FTW!
Thats all fine and dandy, but this here is happenin in Wisconsin and in Wisconsin a landowner needs to have a license to hunt deer, even on his own property. We are also talking about hunting them, not killing nuisance animals.
Deer, not just any old animal. I COULD conceivably put out bait all over my property then hunt and kill 20 deer each and every day until the surrounding population is devastated? Seems fair right? After all its my property and those deer and anything else that comes on my property belongs to me.
Damage shooting is not hunting. Nice diversion from your stupidity though.