HAHA the joke is on us.

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Why must people insist on reading too far into shit? Want me..to...write.....slooooower? I never said fraud wasn't illegal, moron! I said banker fraud wasn't the main reason for the collapse of the economy.
actually, you said they didn't destroy the economy. now you reduced that to "wan't the main reason for".

nodrma's point is that fraud begets jail, and you readily admit to the occurence of "banker fraud".

you're all twisted into a pretzel now though. why you foaming?
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Why must people insist on reading too far into shit? Want me..to...write.....slooooower? I never said fraud wasn't illegal, moron! I said banker fraud wasn't the main reason for the collapse of the economy.
If only I was as ignorant and stupid as you I might actually believe that. You NEVER said one thing about banker fraud. Want me to quote you so you can see what you wrote? You are S T U P I D. It was all due to some foreigners who flew 3 planes into buildings ( yep thats what it was).

ignorant dumb ass said:
No demonstrators were jailed without breaking the law. Wall street bankers didn't destroy the economy IMO. 9/11 started it and the liberals forcing the banks to give home loans to people who didn't qualify put the nail in the coffin! ( I see you found this picture from the worlds most liberal newspaper.)
One day you might actually understand the point of the post. Normal everyday people break the law and they go to Jail, well connected wall street bankers break the law and they get rewarded with MONEY!!! Get it? Probably not.
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
aren't you going to inform me how 100% of GOP members want to tell people who they can marry, yet 90% of them are somehow "liberal"?

LOL!

the genius can't even defend his own fucking canard!


hey everyone, check out the big brain on the genius over here!
Heres how I see it. More liberal than me=liberal......................More fucked up in the head than me=YOU!
 

UncleBuck

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Heres how I see it. More liberal than me=liberal.
ah, so you're so hipster and non-conformist that you don't go by common vernacular. you should go buy a mac, grab a starbucks latte, and join the protesters, you hipster you!

no wonder you come off as a few fries short of a happy meal, you don't know that words have meanings.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
If only I was as ignorant and stupid as you I might actually believe that. You NEVER said one thing about banker fraud. Want me to quote you so you can see what you wrote? You are S T U P I D. It was all due to some foreigners who flew 3 planes into buildings ( yep thats what it was).



One day you might actually understand the point of the post. Normal everyday people break the law and they go to Jail, well connected wall street bankers break the law and they get rewarded with MONEY!!! Get it? Probably not.
there's plenty this kid will never get, like a girlfriend (although that's questionable, as he admits masturbating to me in another thread) or an acne medication that doesn't leave red blotchiness.
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
actually, you said they didn't destroy the economy. now you reduced that to "wan't the main reason for".

nodrma's point is that fraud begets jail, and you readily admit to the occurence of "banker fraud".

you're all twisted into a pretzel now though. why you foaming?
Where did i say the bankers didn't do wrong? I gave my 2 top reasons. Since bankers wasn't in that list of 2, you have a tizzy.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Where did i say the bankers didn't do wrong? I gave my 2 top reasons. Since bankers wasn't in that list of 2, you have a tizzy.
lol, you still buzzing around?

take your dizzying intellect and head on over to the nearest radio so you can swoon at glenn beck's brand of genius.
 

really comfy slippers

Active Member
No demonstrators were jailed without breaking the law. Wall street bankers didn't destroy the economy IMO. 9/11 started it and the liberals forcing the banks to give home loans to people who didn't qualify put the nail in the coffin! ( I see you found this picture from the worlds most liberal newspaper.)
simple mind award
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
If only I was as ignorant and stupid as you I might actually believe that. You NEVER said one thing about banker fraud. Want me to quote you so you can see what you wrote? You are S T U P I D. It was all due to some foreigners who flew 3 planes into buildings ( yep thats what it was).



One day you might actually understand the point of the post. Normal everyday people break the law and they go to Jail, well connected wall street bankers break the law and they get rewarded with MONEY!!! Get it? Probably not.
Being as I gave you my top two reasons for the economy, I inferred it wasn't Mainly due to fraud. Yep, I get it! Politicians do bad shit all the time and they get rewarded with reelection.
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
ah, so you're so hipster and non-conformist that you don't go by common vernacular. you should go buy a mac, grab a starbucks latte, and join the protesters, you hipster you!

no wonder you come off as a few fries short of a happy meal, you don't know that words have meanings.
I thought you libs outlawed fries in happymeals!
 

merkzilla

Active Member
Don't really feel like reading through the political bashing, but Sub prime lending started in the Clinton Administration as a multiculturalism type of deal. Bush jr. continued it and it snow balled.

Basically the United States was guaranteeing loans to those pooled at high risk, so the banks had no problem giving them out since they were going to get their money either way. It wasn't capitalism or free-markets, it was stupidity(short term gains). Pretty much just jacked up house prices so if you bought at the high, you got fucked. Everyone thought that it was normal for house prices to double every 10 years, not so much.
 

NoDrama

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sorry, sub-prime lending may very well have been a part of the process, but it was the derivatives that caused the economy to fail, not homes. If homes were to blame, then we should all be further in the hole as the housing market is still going down. Derivatives and the massive leverage they provided is what caused this mess. Bear Sterns and Lehman Bros bears this truth out.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Don't really feel like reading through the political bashing, but Sub prime lending started in the Clinton Administration as a multiculturalism type of deal. Bush jr. continued it and it snow balled.

Basically the United States was guaranteeing loans to those pooled at high risk, so the banks had no problem giving them out since they were going to get their money either way. It wasn't capitalism or free-markets, it was stupidity(short term gains). Pretty much just jacked up house prices so if you bought at the high, you got fucked. Everyone thought that it was normal for house prices to double every 10 years, not so much.
I'm siding with NoDrama on this point. Subprime lending was a part of the collapse, but i see it more as a symptom of the derivatization of the mortgage market. That was the wealth-redistribution orgy that saw the top bankers walk away with hundreds of millions in bonus money for the top players ... as a reward for rapidly exploiting a great gaping flaw in the deregulation of the bank/investment split. The collapse of property values is a consequence, not a causal factor. cn
 

Johnny Retro

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sorry, sub-prime lending may very well have been a part of the process, but it was the derivatives that caused the economy to fail, not homes. If homes were to blame, then we should all be further in the hole as the housing market is still going down. Derivatives and the massive leverage they provided is what caused this mess. Bear Sterns and Lehman Bros bears this truth out.
Derivatives that the rating agency's pretty much BEGGED the banks to keep putting out. More AAA they issue, the more $ they get. See the conflict of intrest? The rating agency's also didn't take into account how much collateral the insurers (writers of the derivative contracts) had set aside in the event of a credit event, which as any insurance company knows, you need to have reserves. More demand comes into the space, the more the rating agency's rate AAA. So, there is plenty of blame to throw around, not just the banks. And the sad thing is, everyone and their mother still trust the rating agency's..and they have rated AAA on some questionable commercial paper as of recently...

And to address your "homes are not to blame" statement. The reason the CDS's on MBS's even existed was because of all the crazy lending going on that the GOVERNMENT was pushing for (more specifically democrats with the "everyone needs to be equal!!" bs), thus the "houses" were the direct component of it..

btw, anyone ever hear of the Community Reinvestment Act?
"The Community Reinvestment Act is a United States federal law designed to encourage commercial banks and savings associations to help meet the needs of borrowers in all segments of their communities, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods"

Everyone pisses and moans about the banks getting the bailouts..they got the bailouts because the GOVERNMENT was the DIRECT COMPONET of their lending practices. The banks would have got penalized if they didn't loan to risky borrowers.
In my opinion the blame goes
1. Government
2. Rating Agency's
3. Banks
 

RyanTheRhino

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Hahaha this video is so cheesy

[video=youtube;qCPxabSe_9E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qCPxabSe_9E[/video]
 
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