Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

SOG

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electric motors take a lil umpf to start. Thats why most larger motors have a capacitors on them. Im going to have to cut my cord open a lil to put my amp probe/meter around it flip the switch on my timer to watch how it pegs when the pump is turned on. I do know these small pumps dont really draw to much.:bigjoint:
coolness andyman ;)

btw:
large motors with capacitors should have listed in their spec max amp surge as a safety feature
 

andyman

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coolness andyman ;)
please correct me if im wrong, Im misinformed from time to time. lol now ya got me wonderin so I think Im gone to test one of my pumps just so I dont wonder about it when trying to sleep. lol:weed:
 

bubblerking

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Quick tip on cloning for stinkbuddies if you need to take some clones but have no room you can put cuttings in rw in a shoe box in your refrigrater for up two 14 days yes ive done this before with great results espically with hard to root cuttings the cold preserves the cuttings and softens the stem a little then when your ready put clones in areo or whatever u use to clone ps you wont find this tip anywhere its underground
 

SOG

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please correct me if im wrong, Im misinformed from time to time. lol now ya got me wonderin so I think Im gone to test one of my pumps just so I dont wonder about it when trying to sleep. lol:weed:
its all good bra, we are all here to learn from each other
your test results should put your mind at ease ;)

who knows maybe my schooling was all wrong :bigjoint:
 

SoccerMomZoey

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I'm really embarrassed to ask this, but electronics, etc., is NOT something I mess with on a regular basis! I am expecting my timer to arrive next week, it's the aCAP ART-DNe that was recommended. Anyway, I was looking at the picture of it, and see that it has a place for one plug. Does this one timer run the pumps in the cloner, veg system, and the three flowering systems? Or do I need one timer for each pump?
Again...sorry for my lack of knowledge...so if this one timer runs all the pumps, how do I hook them all up with only one space for a plug? I'm thinking a "power strip"? I'm in a situation where I can't ask anyone else but my extended family here...so if the answer is complicated, could you put all the details in so I can follow it? All I can say in my defense is that I built the system with no help!!!
Thanks!!
 

LionsRoor

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right on bro sounds to me like you have the real og kush ya its a hard plant to root for bigginers and pros ive got it down though from trial and error i havnt tryied the stink areo cloner yet but i just use rockwool cubes and dyna grow gel works great og kush takes at least 10 to 16 days to root shes a very tempermental strain shes likes it hot and a lot of co2 ive found that over the years she likes it to be 89 wich i know is kinda hot but she really moves and gets dark green when you keep it at 89 i have had my temps at 85 and she rocked but not like 89 almost night and day difference in growth rate i havent finished a crop yet with the stink system i put 2 8 footers / fence posts in my room i wish i would have used 3 know but hey trial and error is what its all about im still very very impressed with the over all growth rate towards the last 8 days of harvest i flush with plain water and cool my room down to 75 she sugars up hard when you do this i use dynagrow / grow 7/9/5 at veg at 420 ppm so far with no burning at all but a slight tip burn wich is perfect im sure ill bump it up to 600 ppm when shes has some decent size nugs after two weeks at 12 /12 i switch to dyna grow bloom witch is 3/12/6 i also use proteck it fights of pests and is just a catalast to getting everything moving and the plants just love it i advise you to go to dyna-grow.com to see what im talking about the stuff is amazing remember when stink said people rant and rave about the taste of his buds i get that too and its a great feeling let me tell you dyna-grow has won all kinds of awards a lot of peeps have had bad results with it because the try to put the ppm at 1000 0r 1500 to start off but you cant with this stuff its really potent thats why you cant go to high on ppm when there young i put it to 390 ppm then when they start flowering i bump it up to 420 then in the middle of flowering 550 to 600 ppm no higher or you will burn her up i use straight tap water its a amazing 40 ppm right out of the hose i hope i answerd most of your questions if you need anymore help ill do my best to help peace bro
Thanks, Bro! You rock!
 

LionsRoor

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I'm really embarrassed to ask this, but electronics, etc., is NOT something I mess with on a regular basis! I am expecting my timer to arrive next week, it's the aCAP ART-DNe that was recommended. Anyway, I was looking at the picture of it, and see that it has a place for one plug. Does this one timer run the pumps in the cloner, veg system, and the three flowering systems? Or do I need one timer for each pump?
Again...sorry for my lack of knowledge...so if this one timer runs all the pumps, how do I hook them all up with only one space for a plug? I'm thinking a "power strip"? I'm in a situation where I can't ask anyone else but my extended family here...so if the answer is complicated, could you put all the details in so I can follow it? All I can say in my defense is that I built the system with no help!!!
Thanks!!
Hey Mom

You've jumped in on one of the hottest topics of the thread right now: What is the best way to run 3 or more pumps from one recycling timer?

Well the jury is still out - but for now - you can do what Stink does: outlet to UPS to timer to power strip to pump(s) (all pumps plug into the power strip). It is probably a good idea to use some sort of contactor or relay to avoid burning out your timer or pump or popping a circuit... Andyman has plans for a sweet DIY pump relay/contactor. LatinRascal also posted some shots and notes on such an item - and many others (including myself) have posted much info on this subject. All hydro stores sell light relays - if money is no object, one wired for 120 would be perfect. You could get one by CAP to match your timer - I use the MLC-4 (the 240 version) for my lights. It would be overkill - but it would be a choice solution for a pump relay.

If you dare (have the time), you can read all about it on this thread - or you can just plug it in as described above and it will work. NOTE: The UPS is rather critical as pump failure = crop failure.:finger:
 

LionsRoor

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Quick tip on cloning for stinkbuddies if you need to take some clones but have no room you can put cuttings in rw in a shoe box in your refrigrater for up two 14 days yes ive done this before with great results espically with hard to root cuttings the cold preserves the cuttings and softens the stem a little then when your ready put clones in areo or whatever u use to clone ps you wont find this tip anywhere its underground
Yeah - great tip... I put em in a moist paper towel(s), and then in a plastic bag. Your fridge must be no lower than 40 degrees F or they will freeze and die. The fridge will dry the paper towel out so be sure to keep it moist or your cuts will die... You can actually hold cuts like this for up to 3 months!

On a legal note: If it doesn't have roots it is NOT A PLANT. Unrooted clones are NOT plants and do count in your medical plant head-count.... Is it then legal to open a store with large floral display coolers with low light (more purple spectrum to defeat plant growth) and display and sell 100's of unrooted clones?
 

SoccerMomZoey

Active Member
Thanks Lion!!! U da shit for the quick reply! (Actually, I'm exhausted, but stayed up for a bit to see if anyone answered! Can't help it-I'm excited!) I followed the whole thread from page one. Problem then was, after I decided that I was going to build the system, some of the finer details that weren't included in any of the "complete tutorials" that Stink and others did...were buried somewhere in the 300+ pages! Grrrrr....frustrating fer sure. Plus I do see how annoying it is when someone reads only the last few pages of a really great thread and then has a million questions that were all answered in the beginning, and they don't want to read that far back. But I read it all...I swear!!!
I will look up the DIY that Andyman has...I have been messaging him anyway.
Thanks again and have a super weekend!!
Zoey
 

SOG

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I'm really embarrassed to ask this, but electronics, etc., is NOT something I mess with on a regular basis! I am expecting my timer to arrive next week, it's the aCAP ART-DNe that was recommended. Anyway, I was looking at the picture of it, and see that it has a place for one plug. Does this one timer run the pumps in the cloner, veg system, and the three flowering systems? Or do I need one timer for each pump?
Again...sorry for my lack of knowledge...so if this one timer runs all the pumps, how do I hook them all up with only one space for a plug? I'm thinking a "power strip"? I'm in a situation where I can't ask anyone else but my extended family here...so if the answer is complicated, could you put all the details in so I can follow it? All I can say in my defense is that I built the system with no help!!!
Thanks!!
they all run the same timing 1 min on 5 min off, your good with one timer!
you might want to have a backup and split them into two circuits
running the same timing, in the event one goes
you can plug the others onto the single timer
this will allow time secure another timer
better then loosing the whole crop
 

LionsRoor

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they all run the same timing 1 min on 5 min off, your good with one timer!
you might want to have a backup and split them into two circuits
running the same timing, in the event one goes
you can plug the others onto the single timer
this will allow time secure another timer
better then loosing the whole crop
Yo SOG - how's it going... I have been thinking about some sort of pump redundancy as you mentioned above...

How about 2 pumps per res both sharing irrigation duty - each running alternately 1 min on and 10 off (first pump starts 5 minutes before second pump). If one fails, your garden still lives with 1 pump running 1 on / 10 off... I know - doubles the already lofty pump requirements. Probably more appropriate for a single res system. Anyway - irrigation failure is a concern with this system. I'd love to have a bullet-proof solution.
 

LionsRoor

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Thanks Lion!!! U da shit for the quick reply! (Actually, I'm exhausted, but stayed up for a bit to see if anyone answered! Can't help it-I'm excited!) I followed the whole thread from page one. Problem then was, after I decided that I was going to build the system, some of the finer details that weren't included in any of the "complete tutorials" that Stink and others did...were buried somewhere in the 300+ pages! Grrrrr....frustrating fer sure. Plus I do see how annoying it is when someone reads only the last few pages of a really great thread and then has a million questions that were all answered in the beginning, and they don't want to read that far back. But I read it all...I swear!!!
I will look up the DIY that Andyman has...I have been messaging him anyway.
Thanks again and have a super weekend!!
Zoey
Thanks - but you caught me at a good time - normally I lag!:sleep:

I know you read it all - so have I multiple times - but I will be damned if I can find it quickly! ha ha... when you search for something, you end up finding something else that you read for hours! ha ha

To you and the rest of y'all, a great weekend.
 

The Scooby Master

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Stink Bud is there ANY way I could get a signed copy of your High Times cover? I will send it to you or Pay Pal you and you send one to me so you can maintain your privacy? I would gladly donate a little extra for the Stink Bud Cause so you can pass on more love. I just feel it would be an honor since you are such a great guy! I am sure I am not the ONLY one. We could pitch in to get you a PO Box or something.:bigjoint:Peace brother and I riding the Karma Train! You are an inspiration Bro!

kiss-ass
Yes count me in as well. I would chip in extra to get you a P.O. to get all the fan mail.
 

bubblerking

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Yeah - great tip... I put em in a moist paper towel(s), and then in a plastic bag. Your fridge must be no lower than 40 degrees F or they will freeze and die. The fridge will dry the paper towel out so be sure to keep it moist or your cuts will die... You can actually hold cuts like this for up to 3 months!

On a legal note: If it doesn't have roots it is NOT A PLANT. Unrooted clones are NOT plants and do count in your medical plant head-count.... Is it then legal to open a store with large floral display coolers with low light (more purple spectrum to defeat plant growth) and display and sell 100's of unrooted clones?
wow 3 months sweet i would only go two weeks max now i know 3 months thanks bro and i thought i was the only one lol peace
 

havefungodumb

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damn the pumps run a 5amp

thats like another whole circuit ill need to run more than 1 or 2 pumps

this is why im just making a small system hehe..
 

SeeMee

Active Member
I'm going to get the water from a commercial source... The cheaper choice is fizzy co2 enriched. The normal plain water is a bit more expensive.

Can I use the co2 enriched water in my hydro?
 

SOG

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Yo SOG - how's it going... I have been thinking about some sort of pump redundancy as you mentioned above...

How about 2 pumps per res both sharing irrigation duty - each running alternately 1 min on and 10 off (first pump starts 5 minutes before second pump). If one fails, your garden still lives with 1 pump running 1 on / 10 off... I know - doubles the already lofty pump requirements. Probably more appropriate for a single res system. Anyway - irrigation failure is a concern with this system. I'd love to have a bullet-proof solution.
brilliant LionsRoor!
 

latinrascal

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cool thanks.

also anyone I have like 20-30 plants about 2-4" tall most about 2 weeks old. all from seeds (non fem) and there roots are sooo long. I want to move these into a flower unit soon cause the roots are so big the netcups almost dont come out of the lid. The bad part is the plants are so short and bushy but not long enough shoots to take a clone from yet. I see some of the longest roots (about 18-20") have allready gotten into the pump or got broken off or somethin, there still fine and growing nicely. Should I just keep lettin them veg till I can take clones and flower them after or just put them into flower and take clones later. Again they are all from seed and are bound to have some males.
thanks again for everyones help on here.:leaf:
peace:bigjoint:

I had the same problem and here is what i did I left them in the veg unit a little longer then i had wanted to see if they would show pre flowers. Well after they got really bushy al the roots had grown together and were getting to big(past the 12") i cut the tangled roots and removed the plants one by one and placed them into flower. Now when i placed them into flower i carefully alternating as i went and placed the roots into the flower system and made sure they were on one side of the water line in the fence post that ran down the middle then the next spot went on the other side. when i cut the roots i had to cut a good amount but i had at least 12 inches left. It took another 2 weeks for them to flower and i did in fact have 3 males in the bunch. luckily i had 2 side by side in the same fence post and the other was on the end near the rez. When they showed balls i very gently removed them roots and all. I had to cut a very small amount of roots from one plant the was behind the 2 but im talking a few small hairs.

Do yourself a big favor and put them in flower soon, these things get big very quickly. They were all just over 12" when i put them in flower a few weeks ago and are all now at least 3 feet. i am working on tieing them down now because i dont know how much more they are going to stretch. I am not sure of the strain. oh yeah i didnt take cutting until after they showed their sex and clones are doing well.
 
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