Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

DragonPhoenix

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I belive they call it topping, I do it on all my outdoor a few times to get huge plants
As far as I know topping or pinching off or even FIMming are all done to REDUCE the height of the plant. If by huge plants you mean bushy plants then yes I would agree. When you cut the top of the plant off the plant redirects hormones down to the lower branches which in turn causes more growth in those areas. This results in a smaller, more bushier plant. Another result of this is that depending on what technique you've used you will end up with two or more tops. People often top mother plants for two reasons. 1. to keep the height down and 2. because it provides more areas to take clones from near the bottom of the plant.

So if you want TALL plants then don't top, pinch, or FIM. If you want shorter bushier plants then have at hacking the tops off.

DP
 

StinkBud

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Well, here it is, my first batch. first day in the flower unit.

I freakin plugged everything in and noticed the reflector glass was dusty so i went to unscrew it (gently) and the SOB fell down through the plants and did the ol giotine on a few branches...oh well im still alive.

I think they are closer to 3ft..lol
Your plants are going to be giant!!! I hope you have a tall ceiling!

I bet you pull at least 12oz if not a pound out of this harvest.

I would think about training the outer plant branches so you can make some room.

Fuck bro, if I'd have known the plants were that big I would have suggested spreading them out.

You are not going to believe your eyes in about 3 weeks. Your plants will end up being at least 3 times that high, I shit you not!

Remember, if the plants start getting too big just tie them down. Don't cut them. In fact you can start training the end plants now.

Good job Bro! I'm stoked for you...
 

StinkBud

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Okay so I'll put all the pictures in one post and seperate it into two parts.

First - pics of the res as I'm changing it. Stink - is this typical of what you see of the organic matter in the res after a couple weeks?

Next - here's what I did to connect two veg units using ONE res. The veg unit on the right is a little higher than the unit on the left. I hooked up a drain and a hose to send water back to the res and switched the the pump to 500 gph. There's no problem with getting enough pressure through the sprayers. The reason I did this is because I also am modifying the bloom unit to run 3 trays per res (with a larger res as well) so I'll have 21 plants per harvest.

You are looking at the bottom of the 2nd veg unit here. For some reason the picture is rotated...

Bonus third part - here are my veg plants all started from seed about 4w ago.

Cheers!
DP
All that brown crap is normal. The nutrients are a tea made from organic matter not chemicals. Naturally there will be sediments in the water but it's nothing to be concerned about.

If your pump dosen't have a filter built in I recommend using a pump filter bag.

You can also see why I love the idea of using those big black trash bags for liners. You wouldn't have to clean all that shit out every three weeks. After harvest I'll just throw all the old roots in the bag and toss it all. Too easy.

Isn't it amazing how fast the plants grow! You guys are starting to understand why I take my plants into veg under 12". My State's law is one reason but the fucking ceiling is another! It won't budge...

Good job! You get a smiley face:bigjoint:...
 

DIRTHAWKER

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Your plants are going to be giant!!! I hope you have a tall ceiling!

I bet you pull at least 12oz if not a pound out of this harvest.

I would think about training the outer plant branches so you can make some room.

Fuck bro, if I'd have known the plants were that big I would have suggested spreading them out.

You are not going to believe your eyes in about 3 weeks. Your plants will end up being at least 3 times that high, I shit you not!

Remember, if the plants start getting to big just tie them down. Don't cut them. In fact you can start training the end plants now.

Good job Bro! I'm stoked for you...

Hey STINK, you created a monster..LOL

im lovin this!!!
 

StinkBud

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Youve started a great thread & have explained so much HOWEVER Im not sure if youve covered how you dispose your cuttings stems etc. Id really like to know because although Im a noobie that day will come & Id like to be prepared so please tell us...pretty please.
Please tell me you know what bubble hash is!

I save up all the trimmings, leaves and shitty popcorn buds and make bubble hash out of it.

Do a search for bubble hash and bubble bags and you will find a million hits.

What up guys? Do I need to do a tutorial on how to make bubble hash from silkscreen and five gallon buckets?

I don't smoke too much bubble hash cause it makes me want to sacrifice small animals every time I smoke it.:fire:

I take a hit a bubble and say "Jesus Christ!" not because it was a good hit but because he is standing right next to me:shock:...know what I mean?
 

StinkBud

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on the plant fame you buit do you have the exact dimensions to share with us that would be awesome man... the side with the res is lower right??

this set up is great im going to share it with every grower in the family
All the plans, tools, part lists and instructions are posted in a few threads. I also combined everything in one post recently.
 

StinkBud

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Hey Stinkbud here is a clone menu that i have access to.

which 5 would you pick that will do best in this system?

Bubba Kush - Pre 98
Mazar
Strawberry Cream
White Russian s1a
SSH
Dabney Blueberry
Green Crack
Apothacary OG
GDP
Lemon OG Kush
Chemdog 4
Sour Diesel
They are all good choices. As much as I like Super Silver Haze it will take too long to finish.

White Russian is one of the strongest strains out there. It's made from AK-47 and White Widow. Two of the best strains in all of history. I say get it.

Grandaddy Purple is an all time classic. Tastes great but less filling. Not a big producer but worth it. Think grape candy... I would get GDP in a heart beat!

Sour Diesel is supposed to be unreal. My NYC Diesel is super stinky! I would pick this one too.

If I were to pick a Kush strain I would go with the Lemon OG Kush.

Anything with Blueberry is a good choice. I wish I could give you a cutting of my Blueberry. It's pure white at harvest and smell exactly like blueberries! So my last choice would be the BB...

It's all A+++ though. It's like looking at a room full of hot chicks and you get to choose which one you want. And hopefully you won't jizz your pants while your looking!:spew:
 

StinkBud

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BIG THANKS TO STINKBUD!!! I have been following this thread for a while and started implementing as per the awsome instruction. You have made our medical garden even better than before. We just completed our indoor enclosed growroom (Work in Progress - See Pics) This is a Medicinal Marijuana Private Member Collective Garden Legal under State Law.
We have a Mother Tray, Aero/NFT StinkBud Cloner, Aero/NFT StinkBud Veg Unit - Next on the list is to build the Aero/NFT StinkBud Flower Units next!!

Our Medicinal Quiver includes the following:
OG Kush
Blackberry
Blueberry Haze
White Widow
Sour Diesel
G-13
Ice
Afgoo x Jackberry
Pre-98 Bubba Kush
Bubba Kush
Banana Kush
LA Confidential
Chocholate Chunk

Click on the Link to See our Garden in Progress!
Marijuana Growing - galo's Album: Grow Room
You guys have quite the quiver! It's going to be like freakin Christmas in a couple of months! Those clones and veg plants look healthy.

Can't wait to see some of these strains in the aero/nft system. Be sure and post some more pics.

Best luck to you all!
 

Picasso345

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Some funny shit this thread "Harvest a pound every three weeks!" I will say you can do exactly what the title says anyone can just follow the method of THIS WEBSITE. It’s the one StinkBud bought his Aeroponics system from (for like $800) and then realized he could make it from shit at home depot. Here is his pic of the one he bought in action.
My first question would be why are you here under a new account? Why not own up and post this under your ID?
 

pelzroo

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Don't be hatin-
sad to see a good thread turn into an attack zone. I've personally found it to be quite helpful and insightful. Thanks stink!
 

untitled1

Active Member
umm... anyway, back to the system:

I've been trying to figure out a way to run a micro version of this system but haven't been able to find a suitable reservoir. I finally thought about using a small, cheap, plastic toolbox. This little setup measures 14" x 19" and fits one plant, I'm thinking of building one for each stage.

I did some math and figured the toolbox can hold up to 2 gallons of water, but that doesn't seem right by looking at, I'll test it tomorrow. Also, since the lid on the toolbox will be mostly open, I'll probably cover it with a plywood box to keep the light out.

If anyone has any comments, I'd love to hear them.
 

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DragonPhoenix

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Some funny shit this thread "Harvest a pound every three weeks!" QUESTIONS FOR StinkBud and High Times?

So do you (StinkBud) keep mothers? I.e. follow the proposed grow plan you provided us. If not, what do you have another room or two or three you’re just not showing us?

Closing - StinkBud you grow great bud and if you truly are a patient provider you are to be commended but to pawn off someone else’s hard work as yours is plagiarism. No one would have been upset if you just gave us a link to a great site lets us know not to waste hundreds of dollars but how to build it ourselves for less than a hundred. Beyond that don’t propose a theory you don’t actually practice. I could tell anyone how to grow 2 strains of 9 week and 2 strains of 12 week without mixing strains in systems using 5 grow tubes 5 reservoirs harvest 1 LB of 9 weeker every 1st three weeks and 1 LB of 9 weeker & 1 LB of 12 weeker every 2nd 3 weeks. Its math but to have those plants root veg flower and stay on schedual even a master would have a hard time.

I think the funniest part of this thread is this post...LOL

I'm pretty sure Stink isn't claiming to invent aeroponics so I'm not sure how he's plagiarising anything. You think the people at AstroGlide invented aeroponics? You think they came up with 1 minute on 5 minute off timers? You think they came up with Botanicare Nutes? Maybe they invented ppm meters. I guess if they didn't invent any of this they must have plagiarized everything. I can't believe they talked about PUMPS too! Mother plants - they must have invented those too.

LOL I think the only person upset in this thread is you and quite frankly you can't even post on your account if you have one in an anonymous online forum which is quite amusing. Please return to whatever cave you came from - I'm pretty sure you will not have much of a welcome here.

Cheers,
DP
 

ct121601

Active Member
Boooooo! What a hater. I bet you fill your reservoirs with Haterade. Plagiarism my ass. You must not have got enough hugs as a baby. What are you trying to expose?

Stinky, thanks again for taking so much time to share this info, and for documenting it in so much detail. Also, please don't claim to have invented PVC pipe. If you do, more haters will tell us all.
 

andyman

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As far as I know topping or pinching off or even FIMming are all done to REDUCE the height of the plant. If by huge plants you mean bushy plants then yes I would agree. When you cut the top of the plant off the plant redirects hormones down to the lower branches which in turn causes more growth in those areas. This results in a smaller, more bushier plant. Another result of this is that depending on what technique you've used you will end up with two or more tops. People often top mother plants for two reasons. 1. to keep the height down and 2. because it provides more areas to take clones from near the bottom of the plant.

So if you want TALL plants then don't top, pinch, or FIM. If you want shorter bushier plants then have at hacking the tops off.

DP
I topped my outdoor in the spring several times and ended up with plants taller than me and over 5 ft wide. they had huge buds the same size as the ones I didnt top. I gave these plants much love and watered them weekly. all organic as I could and the harvest was awsome. Ive tried it both ways and when I top them right I end up with like 6-8 huge main colas on top and many large side colas. ohh I forgot I tye the side branches down to get them to grow horizonial too. then let them come strait up
 

andyman

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found the 14g rubbermade ruffneck totes at Menards. its a store like lowes and home depot. $6.00 something each
 

andyman

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the pic from my avartar or what ever you call it is from my first time outdoor growing . i will post a new pic soon from this year where the buds are huge
 

DIRTHAWKER

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To the Fool. (mymentorisawebsite) Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain-and most fools do.

Never once did the readers of this thread question stinkbuds methods and sources. I for one do not care who invented the wheel as long as it rolls to where im going. Stink has simplified this topic for countless numbers of people through trial and error, not to mention costly mistakes. It is simplicity that makes the uneducated more effective.
To know the road ahead ask those coming back.

Thanks STINKBUD.
 

StinkBud

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Some funny shit this thread "Harvest a pound every three weeks!" I will say you can do exactly what the title says anyone can just follow the method of THIS WEBSITE. It’s the one StinkBud bought his Aeroponics system from (for like $800) and then realized he could make it from shit at home depot. Here is his pic of the one he bought in action.
No need to be bitter bro. I never said I invented anything. I just posted a thread explaining how I make my grow system.

I've also explained that I had a mentor. My mentor uses the Astrogrow system and suggested I buy one too. He also used the Astogrow instructions. This was my first system I learned Hydro with. Most people that have actually have read the whole thread know this.

Yea, I paid too much for it! But you live and learn. That's why I posted this thread so others don't make the same mistakes I made (and I made them all) The knowledge that I gained from that first system was invaluble.

I really don't see anything wrong with passing on knowledge learned to other patients that need medicine. I excpect and hope that everyone here passes on all my instructions to others in need.

Please compare my Aero/NFT system with the Astrogrow system. You will find that it is quite different in every way.

BUT IT GETS WAY WAY BETTER StinkBud basically plagiarized another website aeroponic system, nutrient choice/control method & water/mister control. StinkBud was your 20 mentor this website? This whole grow guide "gonna be feat in High Times" and it’s all ripped off the website you bought a system from. Astorgrow Aeroponics Knowledge Center
The Botanicare nutrient mix is what they suggest themselves. If you do the math you can see that it is nothing special.

You will notice that the Astrogrow nutrient mix dosen't use Sweet or the veg mix at all. I also don't run their suggested PPM of 2900 either. I tried it but some of my strains just couldn't handle it. Botanicare is the shit bro!

The concept of a cycle timer has been aroung for many years. That's why there are so many made. The timer schedule is also common knowlege.

StinkBud goes on about how it has to be 1 min on 5 off for pump CLICK HERE last paragraph. Also he has his specific organic Aeroponics Nutrients CLICK HERE this is exactly their choice of nutrient and almost exactly following their feeding guide. Like how you can use 2900ppm without burring out the plants. StinkBud has his veg and clone units. He probably spent $300 on his first EZ-Clone 60 before he found he could build those at home depot as well. After all his motto on the cloner is ripped of from that company “Roots in 5 days with 100% success. Get guaranteed results” and that is the company or brand of choice for misters huh StinkBud EZ-CLONE SPRAYER (RED).
My first system was the Astrogrow system and I followed my mentors instructions (Astrogrow's info). It worked well for me so I kept using it in my design.

There are a ton of cloners out there just like mine! I never claimed to invent the aero cloner. I just posted plans to the one I build to help others save time. There are entire threads on just aerocloners alone.

As far sprayers go there are only 2 kinds. The EZ-Clones are the best on the market right now.

Also, EZ-Clone didn't envent the aero cloner, they just sell them. Many companies make and sell them.

I didn't buy one but I would have no promlem recommending one to a patient to sick to build there own.

Now that’s not even what got me questioning this whole setup StinkBud talks about how his system allows 10 strains at once. If he has 14 spots per section (set of tubes per reservoir) why not 14 strains and I know NO BIG DEAL 10/14, but that’s not it. I haven’t seen one picture of him actually implementing what he has suggested a 10 strain motherless rotation. In order for that to occur each section (set of tubes per reservoir) would need plants of every strain mixed all starting and ending at the same time. Then three weeks later the exact same strains wound need to be started in the next section, and so on. In like all your pics you have each reservoir on different strain. So I would say unless you have two or three rooms like this one hiding some where your likely keeping mothers or buying/getting clones.
If you read the whole thread you wouldn't be writing this! I have posted many photos of all stages of my grow. You really don't understand the concept yet. Too bad you take the time to write such a long post but don't take the time to read the whole thread.

FACT - If you were to run 14 strains in 3 reservoirs 3 week perpetual flower system they would all need to be 9 week flowering plants and talk the same ppm of nutrients or you couldn’t run them all in perpetual at same time. Without mothers that is.
Again, read the thread. I have a cloner, veg system and 3 flower systems. 3 weeks in the cloner, 3 weeks in veg and 9 weeks in flower.

I will admit that’s not exact. For example if you wanted in StinkBud existing setup you could actually have 28 strains in two groups of perpetual rotation you could!!! You need two groups of 14 like strains (Definition of like strains - finish at about 9 weeks or so & like same amount of nutrient levels)
You are limited to the number of strains by the holes in the veg unit. Clones are taken from the veg plants so if you don't have a plant in veg to take clones from you will loose the strain.
[NOTE - staying in StinkBud proposed schedule]


  • Start 14 strains (A) in cloner
  • After 3 weeks move them (A) to veger. Also start 14 strains (B) in cloner
  • After 3 weeks move them (B) to veger. Also start 14 strains (A) in cloner and move (A) to flower section 1
  • After 3 weeks move (A) to veger. Also start 14 strains (B) in cloner and move (B) to flower section 2
  • After 3 weeks move (B) to veger. Also start 14 strains (A) in cloner and move (A) to flower section 3
  • After 3 weeks flower section 1 (A) is harvested. Move (A) to veger. Also start 14 strains (B) in cloner and move (B) to flower section 1
  • Rinse, Repeat
If you read the thread you will find an illustration I did to explain this. It's really quite simple. 3 weeks cloner, 3 weeks veg, 9 weeks flower.

QUESTIONS FOR StinkBud and High Times?

So do you (StinkBud) keep mothers? I.e. follow the proposed grow plan you provided us. If not, what do you have another room or two or three you’re just not showing us?
If you read the thread you will see that I don't keep any mother plants. I take my cuttings from the veg plants.

Closing - StinkBud you grow great bud and if you truly are a patient provider you are to be commended but to pawn off someone else’s hard work as yours is plagiarism. No one would have been upset if you just gave us a link to a great site lets us know not to waste hundreds of dollars but how to build it ourselves for less than a hundred.
So you're saying that instead of spending countless hours drawing up plans, parts lists, tool lists, writing instruction and taking photos, I should of just posted a link and say don't buy this other system...

Great suggestion but I'll leave that up to you. I'm just not that kind of guy. I'm more into actually helping people.

Beyond that don’t propose a theory you don’t actually practice. I could tell anyone how to grow 2 strains of 9 week and 2 strains of 12 week without mixing strains in systems using 5 grow tubes 5 reservoirs harvest 1 LB of 9 weeker every 1st three weeks and 1 LB of 9 weeker & 1 LB of 12 weeker every 2nd 3 weeks. Its math but to have those plants root veg flower and stay on schedual even a master would have a hard time.
In conclusion I would like to say a few things to the people that actually matter to me. You know who you are...

My sole motivation is to get medicine in the hands of people that need it. I've personally seen what chemo does to people. I won't go into details but anyone who has watched a close family member die of cancer knows what I'm talking about. I know without a doubt that the medicine I grow is keeping people alive.

I make no profit from these plans and instructions. The money that I will eventually get from my HT article could never come close to paying me for all my time. Again, I don't care. I just think about how many people all over the world will be able to grow thier own medicine after reading my article.

All the information I teach has been out there for many years. I learned from reading the books of the TRUE masters like Jorge Cervantes, Mel Frank and Ed Rosenthal. These are the real heros, not me!

I also have to thank all my collage professors who spend their lives spreading the knowledge of others. Without people like them we would still be living in caves.

Without the help of my mentor I would have never learned about the Astrogrow system. Even though I don't use the system anymore the knowledge I gained is used everyday. I'm sure the people at Astrogrow would love to have everyone here buy 3 of their systems but there are many sick people that just don't have that kind of money.

One of my patients had to spend $200,000 for her brain surgery. It bankrupted them! They don't have a penny to their names. They have no place to grow and no medicine. They don't have any money to buy medicine either. Without any medicine she will throw up all day long until eventually she will die. That's the truth bro.

It is my destiny to help these kind of people. The thing is I can only physically help so many people. Think about how many I can help with this thread and the HT article!

It's really quite sad to see posts like this in such a great thread but it is to be expected. I'm suprised the trolls haven't surfaced sooner.

Don't waste any more space on this guy, we have work to do!
 

StinkBud

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umm... anyway, back to the system:

I've been trying to figure out a way to run a micro version of this system but haven't been able to find a suitable reservoir. I finally thought about using a small, cheap, plastic toolbox. This little setup measures 14" x 19" and fits one plant, I'm thinking of building one for each stage.

I did some math and figured the toolbox can hold up to 2 gallons of water, but that doesn't seem right by looking at, I'll test it tomorrow. Also, since the lid on the toolbox will be mostly open, I'll probably cover it with a plywood box to keep the light out.

If anyone has any comments, I'd love to hear them.
You don't want it tilted so much. You want the water to drain slowly. I only have an inch rise with 4ft. length. My little 6 hole unit has 1/2" rise.
 
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