Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Just wanted to pass on what I've learned growing from seed in this system. The system rocks! Growing from seed does NOT!

What you see below is a picture of a one month old fem Barney's Farm Sweet Tooth. The plant is about 18" tall and the stem is about 3/4" thick. This sucker is getting HUGE. The thing about growing from seed is that you don't see preflowers and hence you can't flower until the plant is ~6w old. So if you ae growing from seed be prepared to top early and often if you want to keep the plant height down. Obviously once you've got a mature plant this will no longer be a problem. For the pics below I removed the plant from the veg unit and laid it down so you are looking at a pic of the top of the plant and then the accompanying root mass. I've also got some Delta9 Fruit of the Gods and at about 3w old that plant was over 12" tall. I realize that the Fruit of the Gods is a sativa dominant plant but the growth is just nuts...I've recently topped nearly every plant I started from seed just to keep the height down until I can take clones. Also the plants got far too crowded when starting from seed but again this won't be a problem once I just start taking clones. I have about 5 or more other strains I want to grow and I have to start from seed so I'll have to go through this again but it'll be worth it...BC Bud Depot The Purps and The Black. Barney's Farm Red Diesel, Big Buddah Cheese and Greenhouse Seeds Trainwreck. So....be prepared to top if you are starting from seed unless you want to get huge plants.

Cheers,
DP

DragonPhoenix said:

I actually put alot of thought into this because I planned on running more posts myself and there are a TON of options...you can change the res size, the pump size, etc. etc. It really depends on how you plan to harvest but for this example lets say you harvest every 3w. The thing is with this if you want to be able to slowly up the nute solution (say every 3w when you add new plants) you need 3 reservoirs. There is a 40 gallon rubbermaid that has the same height (if not smaller than) the 20 gallon, it's just way wider. You could run one of these res to accomodate 21-28 plants and just have 3 pumps and 3 res's.

My room won't accomodate this due to the layout I built so I'm going to just run one extra post into a 20 gallon res. I know the 3 post is going to be outside of the typical gravity drain right into the res so I'm going to add a funnel at the end of the post where it normally drains and then just run tubing from the bottom of the funnel into the res. Presto! Problem solved. You just really need to think about what you want to do and what all the possible solutions are.

Good luck with it.

DP

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would the multi pumps in same res. make it get to hot for the water? that was a big ? of mine.
thanks

DragonPhoenix said:

FYI you don't need a card reader..there is a USB cable that directly hooks up to the camera and you just download the pics onto your PC. The card is treated like any other USB storage device. Your camera should have come with this cable if you bought it new.

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got it on fleabay used.

andyman said:

got it on fleabay used.

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Should be able to get a USB cable dirt cheap then..they are pretty much universal for those devices...less than $10 for sure..probably $5. Just look for a very small connector that's usually housed inside a little rubber door on the camera. If you have any doubts as to its location you can just google the camera manual and find it that way I'm sure there is a diagram.

StinkBud said:

One option is to run more of the same systems and harvest more often.

You could also use a larger res and pump in the setup you are describing. Something like 1200 GPH pump would run all your sprayers no problem. You can pick one up at Home Depot for about $80. 40 gal res would be perfect.

LEDs and Fls are great for clone and veg but you need at least 2 - 1000W HPS or 4 - 600Ws for the huge dank buds. Light is always your limiting factor and the most important aspect of your grow by far.

On the other hand, I highly recommend HO fluorescents for veg and clone.

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I figured runs 8ft long with 10 holes drilled into the fence post. and have 10 total fence post would be 100 little stair stepped girls. I would rather space harvest out. thats why I like the 3 week setup you use. it took me 2 weeks straight , after work , to finish trimmin the outdoor.
do you think this would work.
thanks

DragonPhoenix said:

Should be able to get a USB cable dirt cheap then..they are pretty much universal for those devices...less than $10 for sure..probably $5. Just look for a very small connector that's usually housed inside a little rubber door on the camera. If you have any doubts as to its location you can just google the camera manual and find it that way I'm sure there is a diagram.

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its smaller than my other cams one that is more universal. I just havent went and bought one yet.

torrey420 said:

This system has no mothers! Thats the beauty of it, you have 1 cloner system, 1 veg system and 3 flowering units. Take clippings from the Veg plants and you have 9 weeks of flower with the 3 flowering system rotating. Every 3 weeks you are harvesting, rotating plnats from cloner to vegger to flower, very simple and awesome setup!

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Just curious how this works. If you have no clone mothers, then you must have everyone of your strains in the cloner at any given time? I thought you said you clone 14 plants but only take 11 to be flowered. Sounds like you have 14 plants in the cloner of eight or ten strains. Is this right?

StinkBud, had a quick question. What are the temps of your reservoirs? Do u use/recommend chillers? Thanks for all the great knowledge you have passed onto us! Thanks again!

westmich said:

Just curious how this works. If you have no clone mothers, then you must have everyone of your strains in the cloner at any given time? I thought you said you clone 14 plants but only take 11 to be flowered. Sounds like you have 14 plants in the cloner of eight or ten strains. Is this right?

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The list of the strains Stink runs are listed on p75 - 10 strains.

Hey Stink -

with regards to deciding WHEN to harvest within the 8-10w - are you checking the trichomes with a microscope? Or you just determine the time once for each strain and you kinda know from that point on if you are taking clones and they all act the same?

For example - you harvest strain a every 9w
you harvest straib b every 8w
etc.
etc.

Stink,

I want to use your setup. My space is somewhat limited. My space will be 10' by 5'. Can I fit three units side by side in a 7' by 5' area and use the other space for clone and veg? Probably stacked, one on a shelf above the other. Thanks

I modified fro my space I am going with three 5 gal buckets for res and I put 13 plantsites in about 7ft. I hope not to crowed I have a 1000w HPs on a light mover. I hope that is enough light. Very excited took second set of clones from a mother I have in dirt. Pics later.

Thanks Stink

took clones sat and moved my rooted clones to the veg unit. I had moved plants over the last few days to the veg unit as they had a good root system so I could give them some nutes and I just couldn't wait to see how it worked. The plants started to grow immediately it is the bomb. I have not gotten the botanicare nutes yet and I put in only about 700ppm of earth juice and I am seeing a little leaf curl could someone help with problem solving? Thanks this thread is saving me soil was to muchfor me to handle

stofmonster said:

I modified fro my space I am going with three 5 gal buckets for res and I put 13 plantsites in about 7ft. I hope not to crowed I have a 1000w HPs on a light mover. I hope that is enough light. Very excited took second set of clones from a mother I have in dirt. Pics later.

Thanks Stink

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That looks like how Im going to do mine but 10 holes in an 8ft run so they have plenty of room.
nice job

DragonPhoenix said:

Hey Stink -

with regards to deciding WHEN to harvest within the 8-10w - are you checking the trichomes with a microscope? Or you just determine the time once for each strain and you kinda know from that point on if you are taking clones and they all act the same?

For example - you harvest strain a every 9w
you harvest straib b every 8w
etc.
etc.

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I used to use a magnifier but not anymore.

After a few hundred crops I can just look at them and know when to harvest.

In a couple of years you will be the same way.

Until then use a magnifier or set your digital camera to macro and take a close up picture.

When the trichromes turn cloudy and few start to turn amber then it is time.

I wrote a long post on harvesting in this thread somewhere.

stofmonster said:

I modified fro my space I am going with three 5 gal buckets for res and I put 13 plantsites in about 7ft. I hope not to crowed I have a 1000w HPs on a light mover. I hope that is enough light. Very excited took second set of clones from a mother I have in dirt. Pics later.

Thanks Stink

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That looks perfect bro! These are the things I love to see. Other people will see your solution and realize how easy it is to modify the original design to fit their own space.

Plus I bet you had fun making it. I always feel great when I see one of my projects working.

No one has the exact same size room but if you understand the concept you can make something that will fit. Try to do that with one of those $800 systems.

Keep up the good work and be sure to post more photos of your system working.

stofmonster said:

took clones sat and moved my rooted clones to the veg unit. I had moved plants over the last few days to the veg unit as they had a good root system so I could give them some nutes and I just couldn't wait to see how it worked. The plants started to grow immediately it is the bomb. I have not gotten the botanicare nutes yet and I put in only about 700ppm of earth juice and I am seeing a little leaf curl could someone help with problem solving? Thanks this thread is saving me soil was to muchfor me to handle

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I think you answered your own question. You have to use the right nutrients or you are wasting your time.

We can't help you if you don't follow the instructions. As soon as you start using the right nutes everything will take off like a rocket, trust me...

towelieban said:

Stink,

I want to use your setup. My space is somewhat limited. My space will be 10' by 5'. Can I fit three units side by side in a 7' by 5' area and use the other space for clone and veg? Probably stacked, one on a shelf above the other. Thanks

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Some of the other guys are modifying the original design to fit their rooms. If you understand the concept you can custom make anything you want to fit your room.

You would be better off with a single long post instead of two shorter ones. Three of these systems would fit perfect.

If you ask nice maybe stofmonster could give you the dimensions for his setup. It looks like it would fit your room perfect.

StinkBud said:

That looks perfect bro! These are the things I love to see. Other people will see your solution and realize how easy it is to modify the original design to fit their own space.

Plus I bet you had fun making it. I always feel great when I see one of my projects working.

No one has the exact same size room but if you understand the concept you can make something that will fit. Try to do that with one of those $800 systems.

Keep up the good work and be sure to post more photos of your system working.

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im looking at doing the same but with 8ft runs 10 plants holes per run. if i used 5 gal buckets for the res of each one will that be enough room for the water and nuts and/or will it be enough for one pump per bucket. I know you probly get way to many questions but I just dont have the pump experience yet to know. I dont want the water getting too hot.
thanks

StinkBud
I think I read on one of these 116 pages. That you are pulling air form outside the room thru the vented lights and then back outside the room to keep it sealed. Running CO2 and and a Dehumidifier inside

Any Exhaust or inatake into the room?

Keep the balasts outside the room?

Whats the ambient temp range of your room?

Any trouble keeping the water temps below 72deg F?

At what room temp does it become an issue to keep the rez water below 72 deg F?

R U harveting 1Lb from a set of 8 plants every 3 weeks?