Help me pic a Short strain?
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Hobbes
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"i need advice on a strain thats short, like in the 60 cm range, not looking for a auto-flower really,"
My Skunkberry, Northern Lights and Northern Berry from PeakSeedsBC vegged to 16" (double topped) and ended up 22" to 26" for the 3 strains. 1000W HPS, 36 hours dark on flower onset, 5 gallon bucket of promix.
I've got an 18" Big Lauging clone from Dr Greenthumb that I vegged to 12", a Red Diesel clone flowered to 6" and is ending up 18", 2 strawberry cough clones vegged to 6" that have stretched to 14" after stretch in flower.
I'm growing Kali Mist now, the double topped mother, vegged to 14", will end up 3' - 4'; but the 4 clones vegged to 3" in hydro will probably end up 16" to 24".
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What I'm saying is that every strain can be a short strain when you learn cloning, it opens up your possibilities. Figure out the stretch in a strain for your set up, then veg the clones to a predetermined height and after the stretch you have almost exactly the height you want. Every time.
If you have a plant from seed that's going to be tall top it a few times, or grow horizontally by wrapping the stem, as the plant grows, around you pot and let the branches grow straight up. I grew 12 x 6' - 8' sativas in a 4' high room I now use for vegging. Once the horizontal grow is set up, which can take some work, its simple, huge yield and great bud.
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"Barneys farm blue cheese is looking good and at the shorter height range, ideas?"
Cheese sounds great if that's the high you're looking for. More important than the plant height, what kind of high/stone do you want?
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My Skunkberry, Northern Lights and Northern Berry from PeakSeedsBC vegged to 16" (double topped) and ended up 22" to 26" for the 3 strains. 1000W HPS, 36 hours dark on flower onset, 5 gallon bucket of promix.
I've got an 18" Big Lauging clone from Dr Greenthumb that I vegged to 12", a Red Diesel clone flowered to 6" and is ending up 18", 2 strawberry cough clones vegged to 6" that have stretched to 14" after stretch in flower.
I'm growing Kali Mist now, the double topped mother, vegged to 14", will end up 3' - 4'; but the 4 clones vegged to 3" in hydro will probably end up 16" to 24".
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What I'm saying is that every strain can be a short strain when you learn cloning, it opens up your possibilities. Figure out the stretch in a strain for your set up, then veg the clones to a predetermined height and after the stretch you have almost exactly the height you want. Every time.
If you have a plant from seed that's going to be tall top it a few times, or grow horizontally by wrapping the stem, as the plant grows, around you pot and let the branches grow straight up. I grew 12 x 6' - 8' sativas in a 4' high room I now use for vegging. Once the horizontal grow is set up, which can take some work, its simple, huge yield and great bud.
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"Barneys farm blue cheese is looking good and at the shorter height range, ideas?"
Cheese sounds great if that's the high you're looking for. More important than the plant height, what kind of high/stone do you want?
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Hobbes
Well-Known Member
Know your own stone
by DJ Short (01 Sept, 1999) An educated and descerning palate is a key requirement in breeding and appreciating cannabis.
Spectrums of experience
The first spectrum to consider is the "up and down" experience. "Up" refers to the stimulating aspects of cannabis, while "down" refers to sedative qualities. Up pot tends to liven the disposition and stimulate the emotions, inspiring sociability and talkativeness. Down pot tends to produce sedative and depressant effects. Some people refer to stimulating pot as being a "head" high and sedative pot as being a "body" high, yet although partially true this is also misleading.
Body and head highs are the next spectrum of the cannabis experience. Generally speaking, head highs are stimulating and body highs are sedative, but not all are. Some body highs are stimulating and some head highs are depressing. I once sampled a terribly paranoia-inducing head pot that inspired great couch lock qualities. I called it Boo-Goo.
Early to late harvest will affect the head to body spectrum expressed by a certain plant, with the later harvest tending to produce more body and sedative effects. However, I believe that certain aspects of this spectrum to be genetically inherited.
Next to consider are aspects of duration. Some cannabis tends to be short-acting (15-30min) whereas other varieties last much longer (6-7 hours). Once again production, harvesting and curing techniques can influence aspects of this spectrum, but much of this effect is inherited.
For me, the most important aspect of the cannabis experience to consider is tolerance. This refers to the product's ability to provide the same experience via the same amount over time – the burnout factor. By "over time" I mean the long run: months, years, decades...
Most of the cannabis I see on the market today has a terrible tolerance factor – a quick burnout time with the product's novelty lasting less than a week. Luther Burbank's model of breeding needs to be employed here and no expression of tolerance to your product is to be tolerated. An example of where intolerance to tolerance is tolerated – enough already!
Another aspect of tolerance is "ceiling." This refers to how high (or far) one is capable of going with the variety. How many hits can you consume until more hits are unnoticeable? Most indicas have a low ceiling of less than 10 hits. For me that's usually around 5 hits in one smoking session. If I smoke more than 5 hits of a strong indica I will either not notice the post-ceiling hits, or I will fall asleep.
Some sativas have a very high ceiling, or seem to have none at all! This means that the more you consume, the higher and further you go. Oaxaca Highland Gold, Black Magic African, and Highland Thai were some of the herbs I've tried with very high or no ceiling.
The final aspect of mental effects to consider when sampling strains for breeding is the tendency to produce anxiety. Certain strains of cannabis increase anxiety while others decrease it. This is also true for other emotions, which some strains may suppress while others may augment their intensity. Generally stimulating and head varieties are the ones that can produce unwanted anxiety, but this is not always the case. Quickly cured buds or an over-early harvest are contributing factors to anxiety-increasing pot, but this trait is also genetic in nature.
Tastes and tasters
The physical palates of cannabis add another dimension to the equation. Taste is an important factor toward determining the desirability of most cannabis. The range of flavours expressed by the genus cannabis is extraordinary. No other plant on the planet can equal the cacophony of smells and tastes available from cannabis. This fact alone should interest researchers from several fields.
The range of possible smells and tastes a human can experience is large and complex. To date, no-one has created a fully usable olfaction chart, but Ann Noble developed a nifty "aroma wheel" for the wine industry, which inspired me to develop a cannabis olfaction chart. Like Ann's wheel, more basic aroma categories like "fruity", "floral", "spicy" and "pungent" go in the centre, and branch out into more specific aromas. So beneath "fruity" goes "berry" and "citrus", and beneath "citrus" is "lemon", "lime" and "orange".
The main cannabis aromas are: woody, spicy, fruity, earthen, pungent, chemical and vegetative – a wide range indeed. More specific aromas include pine and cedar under "woody", musty and dusty for "earthen", blueberry and mango under "fruity", and many others. Most aromas are possible through some combination of strains. Many of these strains were best expressed and acclimated when they were grown outdoors in their region-of-origin, or homeland.
Note that aroma and flavour vary between various stages of the plant. The aroma of a live bud on the plant, a dried and cured bud, and the smoke on the inhale and exhale, may all be different from each other. My number one goal when breeding cannabis is the quality of the perfectly matured, trimmed and cured bud and the experience it provides.
I strongly recommend the use of "tasters" to help analyze the qualities of a given smoke. I prefer highly educated, seasoned and critical elders as they tend to be the most helpful in their analysis and feedback. If there is the slightest drawback to the product, such as arrhythmia, tachycardia, paranoia, or what have you, the experienced elder taster will be the first to notice it. By the same token, if a product is exceptionally fine, the experienced elder taster will also likely be among the first to fully appreciate this. Besides, the elders always appreciate good medicine.
The best way to educate and train the palate is through experience. Unfortunately, there has been a great depletion of variance among the product available to the public. Most grow-ops focus on quantity over quality, and as a result a general blandness has developed. In future articles I will describe some of the great region-of-origin varieties that were available twenty years ago, describing their aroma, flavour, effects, and growth patterns.
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by DJ Short (01 Sept, 1999) An educated and descerning palate is a key requirement in breeding and appreciating cannabis.
Spectrums of experience
The first spectrum to consider is the "up and down" experience. "Up" refers to the stimulating aspects of cannabis, while "down" refers to sedative qualities. Up pot tends to liven the disposition and stimulate the emotions, inspiring sociability and talkativeness. Down pot tends to produce sedative and depressant effects. Some people refer to stimulating pot as being a "head" high and sedative pot as being a "body" high, yet although partially true this is also misleading.
Body and head highs are the next spectrum of the cannabis experience. Generally speaking, head highs are stimulating and body highs are sedative, but not all are. Some body highs are stimulating and some head highs are depressing. I once sampled a terribly paranoia-inducing head pot that inspired great couch lock qualities. I called it Boo-Goo.
Early to late harvest will affect the head to body spectrum expressed by a certain plant, with the later harvest tending to produce more body and sedative effects. However, I believe that certain aspects of this spectrum to be genetically inherited.
Next to consider are aspects of duration. Some cannabis tends to be short-acting (15-30min) whereas other varieties last much longer (6-7 hours). Once again production, harvesting and curing techniques can influence aspects of this spectrum, but much of this effect is inherited.
For me, the most important aspect of the cannabis experience to consider is tolerance. This refers to the product's ability to provide the same experience via the same amount over time – the burnout factor. By "over time" I mean the long run: months, years, decades...
Most of the cannabis I see on the market today has a terrible tolerance factor – a quick burnout time with the product's novelty lasting less than a week. Luther Burbank's model of breeding needs to be employed here and no expression of tolerance to your product is to be tolerated. An example of where intolerance to tolerance is tolerated – enough already!
Another aspect of tolerance is "ceiling." This refers to how high (or far) one is capable of going with the variety. How many hits can you consume until more hits are unnoticeable? Most indicas have a low ceiling of less than 10 hits. For me that's usually around 5 hits in one smoking session. If I smoke more than 5 hits of a strong indica I will either not notice the post-ceiling hits, or I will fall asleep.
Some sativas have a very high ceiling, or seem to have none at all! This means that the more you consume, the higher and further you go. Oaxaca Highland Gold, Black Magic African, and Highland Thai were some of the herbs I've tried with very high or no ceiling.
The final aspect of mental effects to consider when sampling strains for breeding is the tendency to produce anxiety. Certain strains of cannabis increase anxiety while others decrease it. This is also true for other emotions, which some strains may suppress while others may augment their intensity. Generally stimulating and head varieties are the ones that can produce unwanted anxiety, but this is not always the case. Quickly cured buds or an over-early harvest are contributing factors to anxiety-increasing pot, but this trait is also genetic in nature.
Tastes and tasters
The physical palates of cannabis add another dimension to the equation. Taste is an important factor toward determining the desirability of most cannabis. The range of flavours expressed by the genus cannabis is extraordinary. No other plant on the planet can equal the cacophony of smells and tastes available from cannabis. This fact alone should interest researchers from several fields.
The range of possible smells and tastes a human can experience is large and complex. To date, no-one has created a fully usable olfaction chart, but Ann Noble developed a nifty "aroma wheel" for the wine industry, which inspired me to develop a cannabis olfaction chart. Like Ann's wheel, more basic aroma categories like "fruity", "floral", "spicy" and "pungent" go in the centre, and branch out into more specific aromas. So beneath "fruity" goes "berry" and "citrus", and beneath "citrus" is "lemon", "lime" and "orange".
The main cannabis aromas are: woody, spicy, fruity, earthen, pungent, chemical and vegetative – a wide range indeed. More specific aromas include pine and cedar under "woody", musty and dusty for "earthen", blueberry and mango under "fruity", and many others. Most aromas are possible through some combination of strains. Many of these strains were best expressed and acclimated when they were grown outdoors in their region-of-origin, or homeland.
Note that aroma and flavour vary between various stages of the plant. The aroma of a live bud on the plant, a dried and cured bud, and the smoke on the inhale and exhale, may all be different from each other. My number one goal when breeding cannabis is the quality of the perfectly matured, trimmed and cured bud and the experience it provides.
I strongly recommend the use of "tasters" to help analyze the qualities of a given smoke. I prefer highly educated, seasoned and critical elders as they tend to be the most helpful in their analysis and feedback. If there is the slightest drawback to the product, such as arrhythmia, tachycardia, paranoia, or what have you, the experienced elder taster will be the first to notice it. By the same token, if a product is exceptionally fine, the experienced elder taster will also likely be among the first to fully appreciate this. Besides, the elders always appreciate good medicine.
The best way to educate and train the palate is through experience. Unfortunately, there has been a great depletion of variance among the product available to the public. Most grow-ops focus on quantity over quality, and as a result a general blandness has developed. In future articles I will describe some of the great region-of-origin varieties that were available twenty years ago, describing their aroma, flavour, effects, and growth patterns.
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Kingb420
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+ rep for both of you. i have topped and lst'd , creating great clones so far, now flowering them. are they ALWAYS smaller than mother?
im using a 150w hps in a 3 foot tall box, now 100% on cloning, flowering my first set now 1 week in. just looking for a reliable, shorter strain, if the clones are always smaller, im set. thanks
i prefer the head high, getting me all creative and shit, "The church" seeds look interesting aswell, just undecided. want to get like 3 fem seeds and clone forever
im using a 150w hps in a 3 foot tall box, now 100% on cloning, flowering my first set now 1 week in. just looking for a reliable, shorter strain, if the clones are always smaller, im set. thanks
i prefer the head high, getting me all creative and shit, "The church" seeds look interesting aswell, just undecided. want to get like 3 fem seeds and clone forever
Hobbes
Well-Known Member
+ rep for both of you."
There's only one of me even though the other guy in my head thinks he's real. I know that he's not but try to explain that to him!
"are *clones* ALWAYS smaller than mother?"
No.
However I've found that if a clone and mother are vegged to the same height and grown under the same conditions the mother will be taller than the clone. I've found this to be the case with every clone/strain I've done but I don't know if this is universal. I think it has something to do with the more advanced sexual maturity in an older clone than in the same height mother, which allows for a quicker transition into flower.
" prefer the head high, getting me all creative and shit,"
Kingb try Screen of green or just wrapping the stem around the bucket for the first grow and pick any strain you want, don't worry about the height. It'll take some work flowering out the mother but you can make any size budcycles out of the clones.
Here's a list of sativas and a few indicas I've been looking at. I'll bold the one's I've bought, but I haven't grown them all yet. I'll put the indicas you probably won't want in italics.
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Currently In Garden
Big Laughing - Dr Greenthumb
Bubblegum - Serious Seeds
Kali Mist - Serious Seeds
Red Diesel - Barney's Farm
Strawberry Cough - Dutch Passion (garbage, do not buy)
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Blueberry - (DJ Short) Dutch Passion
Unknown - Dr Greenthumb: very fruity taste, relaxing stone but mild so far.
On Deck
Blue Moonshine - (DJ Short) Dutch Passion
Super Strawberry Diesel - Elite
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AK47 - Serious Seeds: Rocket Fuel. Up, soaring, not functional. One hit, incredibly potent. Stinks like cat piss and dead skunk. Or perhaps smells as if a cat pissed on a skunk and the smell was so bad the skunk died, then the cat dragged the skunk into a garbage bag and left it in the sun for a week. Get odor control if you're doing this strain.
Alaskan Ice - Greenhouse: one of the strongest cannabis plants ever bred .. a cross of original Green House White Widow and Pure Haze ... has all the well known characteristics of the White Widow, with a much higher THC content and a very sativa-like effect, energizing and very trippy. CBD level is also very high at over 1%, giving it a complete physical effect that follows the first burst of high. The taste is spicy and hazy, with a very well balanced bouquet in between the White Widow and the Haze flavors.
Arjan's Haze #3 - Greenhouse: Euphoric, cerebral high with trippy undertones.
Big Bang - Greenhouse:Effect: Very known for its medicinal properties, it is sold in the Dutch pharmacies as prescription medicine.
Relaxing and calming effect.
Big Laughing - Dr Greenthumb: instant mood changer, you will not be able to stop laughing, up silly high, very potent. Easy to grow, forgiving. Amazing spicy wood taste, you never want to exhale. My favorite strain.
Blueberry - PeakSeedsBC: Pure Blueberry of our own creation using genetics from Sagarmatha, Dutch Passion and DJ Shorts. The results clearly speak for themselves. A little fert sensitive, start with low doses and increase as plant demands. Recommended for experienced growers as it can be a bit more demanding to grow/clone. Unique flavor, fantastic potentcy, very popular. 60/40* indica/sativa. Eight weeks flowering. Medium height.
Blue Moonshine - (DJ Short) Dutch Passion: a potent blueberry strain that produces a powerful narcotic high.
Bubblegum - Serious Seeds: uplifting, euphoric, clear, social.
Cheese - Big Bhudda: appealing fruity fresh smell, uplifting effect, highly pungent hence its name! No ceiling high, little tolerance build up.
Cheese S1 Feminized seeds from original clone - Dr Greenthumb: Uplifting high that lasts four hour, unusual cheesy smell with deeply pungent earthy taste.
Durban Poison - Dutch Passion: The plant produces a Thai-like aniseed smell similar to licorice. A husky, earthy taste pleasant to the smoker. Durban Poison is well known for it's "up - feel good" high that produces an energetic, trip effect. A good beginner strain, inside or out, does well under artificial light, 8-9 week flower, 100% Sativa.
F13 - DJ Short: F-13 a Holy Grail plant of four-star excellence. Previously unreleased, a very desirable product and potential breeder. A more sativa hybrid of medium height with long, spear-shaped, dense and resinous buds and an earlier finish-time than most sativa. The superlative quality of the finished product is remarkable: A clear, clean, crisp head of the kindest order. This girl really rings the bell every time! Not for the couch-lock crowd, this heady sativa is for those who truly enjoy its stimulating yet comfortable appeal. A real day-brightener. DJ's personal favorite from this batch. Grow Location: Indoor Flowering: 7 - 9 weeks Yield: Average
Flo - (DJ Short) Dutch Passion: Unique motivating high.
Jack Flash (Jack Herer) - Sensi: Exotic high, powerful on body and mind. Trippy. The best Jack Herer is often passed around a select circle of friends - an example of one of those things that money just can’t buy. The trait common to all Jack Herer phenotypes is a dazzling double-edged potency - a stratospheric cerebral high underpinned by a breathtaking body-buzz with seismic power. Smokers should be prepared to feel the earth shake beneath their feet - which can be a very pleasant feeling when your head is firmly in the clouds. The cat's meow.
Kali Mist - Serious Seeds: up, clear, energized, no ceiling. Top sativa today, so says the advertising.
Medicine Man - Mr Nice (White Rhino - Greenhouse):
Northern Berry - PeakSeedsBC:
Northern Lights - PeakSeedsBC:
Power Plant - Dutch Passion: Pure Power Plant has a pleasant almost pine after taste and a powerful up social buzz. Large yield, 8-9 weeks flower, VERY odorous in late flowering. The smoke after 15 days of drying and 15 of curing is soft,smooth,sweet,fruity (mainly citrus and orange) with piney undertones. The effect is mainly in the head ,uplifting with a good potency without body effect; very good day smoking, almost inspiring.
Red Diesel - Barney's Farm: up and trippy.
Skunk #1 (Original) - Seedsman: Like the origional Cheese: a sweet smell and taste with a cerebral high.
Skunk - PeakSeedsBC:
Skunkberry - PeakSeedsBC:
Strawberry Cough - Dutch Passion: up, clear, mild, melts anxiety, good all day bud. UPDATE: horrible taste, no potency, but melts anxiety while leaving you clear headed. Hate the strain, I'll never run it again. (garbage)
Super Silver Haze - Greenhouse: Potent. Potent. Potent. Creepy and powerful on the body. 4 phenos, the best sativa pheno: Smell is fairly strong floral & spicey with a hint of sweetness. Taste is very spicey with a great hazey slightly sweet aftertaste. The high is a stupifying mix of Sativa and Indica effects. The Sativa side is visual mentally confusing (hard to think straight/concentrate) while the Indica is just enough to relax the body (kill the pain) & take away most of the edgy racey paranoia feeling of the Haze.
Super Strawberry Diesel - Elite: Strawberry cough drop x Diesel taste, potent. From the original clone.
Texada Timewarp - (Peak has been out for a year-who?): up high, beautiful lemony fresh smelling buds. Great producing strain outdoors, very dependable. Can grow to 12' outdoors. TT is from Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada - good for short growing seasons.
Trainwreck - Greenhouse: Effect: Like the name suggests, a real blast. It hits fast, and it hits hard. Stoney on the body, confusing and trippy on the brain. A truly powerful smoke.
White Widow - Seedsman: Unique, refreshing taste, strong skunky smell, mind-blowing, sugary appearance, one of the finest quality highs you could ever experience. A few tokes of White Widow and you’ll be sent into a floating utopia. A light and airy high bursting with energy, White Widow is a classic, psychedelic sativa strain not to be missed.
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http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis...dsEntrance.htm
http://www.peakseedsbc.com/seeds.htm
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/
http://elitegenetics.webs.com/list.htm
http://www.pickandmixseeds.co.uk/
If you're from the States, Attitude has a small Pick n Mix section if you want feminized singles. They ship to the US while the Pick n Mix seedbank does not. Greenthumb and Peak ship to the US, Elite does not.
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There's only one of me even though the other guy in my head thinks he's real. I know that he's not but try to explain that to him!
"are *clones* ALWAYS smaller than mother?"
No.
However I've found that if a clone and mother are vegged to the same height and grown under the same conditions the mother will be taller than the clone. I've found this to be the case with every clone/strain I've done but I don't know if this is universal. I think it has something to do with the more advanced sexual maturity in an older clone than in the same height mother, which allows for a quicker transition into flower.
" prefer the head high, getting me all creative and shit,"
Kingb try Screen of green or just wrapping the stem around the bucket for the first grow and pick any strain you want, don't worry about the height. It'll take some work flowering out the mother but you can make any size budcycles out of the clones.
Here's a list of sativas and a few indicas I've been looking at. I'll bold the one's I've bought, but I haven't grown them all yet. I'll put the indicas you probably won't want in italics.
.
Currently In Garden
Big Laughing - Dr Greenthumb
Bubblegum - Serious Seeds
Kali Mist - Serious Seeds
Red Diesel - Barney's Farm
Strawberry Cough - Dutch Passion (garbage, do not buy)
.
Blueberry - (DJ Short) Dutch Passion
Unknown - Dr Greenthumb: very fruity taste, relaxing stone but mild so far.
On Deck
Blue Moonshine - (DJ Short) Dutch Passion
Super Strawberry Diesel - Elite
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AK47 - Serious Seeds: Rocket Fuel. Up, soaring, not functional. One hit, incredibly potent. Stinks like cat piss and dead skunk. Or perhaps smells as if a cat pissed on a skunk and the smell was so bad the skunk died, then the cat dragged the skunk into a garbage bag and left it in the sun for a week. Get odor control if you're doing this strain.
Alaskan Ice - Greenhouse: one of the strongest cannabis plants ever bred .. a cross of original Green House White Widow and Pure Haze ... has all the well known characteristics of the White Widow, with a much higher THC content and a very sativa-like effect, energizing and very trippy. CBD level is also very high at over 1%, giving it a complete physical effect that follows the first burst of high. The taste is spicy and hazy, with a very well balanced bouquet in between the White Widow and the Haze flavors.
Arjan's Haze #3 - Greenhouse: Euphoric, cerebral high with trippy undertones.
Big Bang - Greenhouse:Effect: Very known for its medicinal properties, it is sold in the Dutch pharmacies as prescription medicine.
Relaxing and calming effect.
Big Laughing - Dr Greenthumb: instant mood changer, you will not be able to stop laughing, up silly high, very potent. Easy to grow, forgiving. Amazing spicy wood taste, you never want to exhale. My favorite strain.
Blueberry - PeakSeedsBC: Pure Blueberry of our own creation using genetics from Sagarmatha, Dutch Passion and DJ Shorts. The results clearly speak for themselves. A little fert sensitive, start with low doses and increase as plant demands. Recommended for experienced growers as it can be a bit more demanding to grow/clone. Unique flavor, fantastic potentcy, very popular. 60/40* indica/sativa. Eight weeks flowering. Medium height.
Blue Moonshine - (DJ Short) Dutch Passion: a potent blueberry strain that produces a powerful narcotic high.
Bubblegum - Serious Seeds: uplifting, euphoric, clear, social.
Cheese - Big Bhudda: appealing fruity fresh smell, uplifting effect, highly pungent hence its name! No ceiling high, little tolerance build up.
Cheese S1 Feminized seeds from original clone - Dr Greenthumb: Uplifting high that lasts four hour, unusual cheesy smell with deeply pungent earthy taste.
Durban Poison - Dutch Passion: The plant produces a Thai-like aniseed smell similar to licorice. A husky, earthy taste pleasant to the smoker. Durban Poison is well known for it's "up - feel good" high that produces an energetic, trip effect. A good beginner strain, inside or out, does well under artificial light, 8-9 week flower, 100% Sativa.
F13 - DJ Short: F-13 a Holy Grail plant of four-star excellence. Previously unreleased, a very desirable product and potential breeder. A more sativa hybrid of medium height with long, spear-shaped, dense and resinous buds and an earlier finish-time than most sativa. The superlative quality of the finished product is remarkable: A clear, clean, crisp head of the kindest order. This girl really rings the bell every time! Not for the couch-lock crowd, this heady sativa is for those who truly enjoy its stimulating yet comfortable appeal. A real day-brightener. DJ's personal favorite from this batch. Grow Location: Indoor Flowering: 7 - 9 weeks Yield: Average
Flo - (DJ Short) Dutch Passion: Unique motivating high.
Jack Flash (Jack Herer) - Sensi: Exotic high, powerful on body and mind. Trippy. The best Jack Herer is often passed around a select circle of friends - an example of one of those things that money just can’t buy. The trait common to all Jack Herer phenotypes is a dazzling double-edged potency - a stratospheric cerebral high underpinned by a breathtaking body-buzz with seismic power. Smokers should be prepared to feel the earth shake beneath their feet - which can be a very pleasant feeling when your head is firmly in the clouds. The cat's meow.
Kali Mist - Serious Seeds: up, clear, energized, no ceiling. Top sativa today, so says the advertising.
Medicine Man - Mr Nice (White Rhino - Greenhouse):
Northern Berry - PeakSeedsBC:
Northern Lights - PeakSeedsBC:
Power Plant - Dutch Passion: Pure Power Plant has a pleasant almost pine after taste and a powerful up social buzz. Large yield, 8-9 weeks flower, VERY odorous in late flowering. The smoke after 15 days of drying and 15 of curing is soft,smooth,sweet,fruity (mainly citrus and orange) with piney undertones. The effect is mainly in the head ,uplifting with a good potency without body effect; very good day smoking, almost inspiring.
Red Diesel - Barney's Farm: up and trippy.
Skunk #1 (Original) - Seedsman: Like the origional Cheese: a sweet smell and taste with a cerebral high.
Skunk - PeakSeedsBC:
Skunkberry - PeakSeedsBC:
Strawberry Cough - Dutch Passion: up, clear, mild, melts anxiety, good all day bud. UPDATE: horrible taste, no potency, but melts anxiety while leaving you clear headed. Hate the strain, I'll never run it again. (garbage)
Super Silver Haze - Greenhouse: Potent. Potent. Potent. Creepy and powerful on the body. 4 phenos, the best sativa pheno: Smell is fairly strong floral & spicey with a hint of sweetness. Taste is very spicey with a great hazey slightly sweet aftertaste. The high is a stupifying mix of Sativa and Indica effects. The Sativa side is visual mentally confusing (hard to think straight/concentrate) while the Indica is just enough to relax the body (kill the pain) & take away most of the edgy racey paranoia feeling of the Haze.
Super Strawberry Diesel - Elite: Strawberry cough drop x Diesel taste, potent. From the original clone.
Texada Timewarp - (Peak has been out for a year-who?): up high, beautiful lemony fresh smelling buds. Great producing strain outdoors, very dependable. Can grow to 12' outdoors. TT is from Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada - good for short growing seasons.
Trainwreck - Greenhouse: Effect: Like the name suggests, a real blast. It hits fast, and it hits hard. Stoney on the body, confusing and trippy on the brain. A truly powerful smoke.
White Widow - Seedsman: Unique, refreshing taste, strong skunky smell, mind-blowing, sugary appearance, one of the finest quality highs you could ever experience. A few tokes of White Widow and you’ll be sent into a floating utopia. A light and airy high bursting with energy, White Widow is a classic, psychedelic sativa strain not to be missed.
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http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis...dsEntrance.htm
http://www.peakseedsbc.com/seeds.htm
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/
http://elitegenetics.webs.com/list.htm
http://www.pickandmixseeds.co.uk/
If you're from the States, Attitude has a small Pick n Mix section if you want feminized singles. They ship to the US while the Pick n Mix seedbank does not. Greenthumb and Peak ship to the US, Elite does not.
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Any kind of indica-dom hybrid will stay under 2 ft if you flower from clone.
Kingb420
Well-Known Member
awwww no pics! teasing me!No worries. RDs an easy grower so far too, I've got one in flower about 3 weeks and a clone about 4 weeks. Looks good.
Good luck with your grow.
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Hobbes
Well-Known Member
"I've always wanted to grow Big Laughing i hear its amazing from the people who have, but i can't decide between that or kali mist."
I'm running Kali Mist for the first time so I have nothing to contribute on that side, but Big Laughing is absolutely amazing - I have a plant in dirt and hydro every grow. My favorite strain. Different class of high than Kali Mist, clear vs fall on the floor silly.
King I'll post some pics of my garden sometime soon, I've never had much luck posting pictures.
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I'm running Kali Mist for the first time so I have nothing to contribute on that side, but Big Laughing is absolutely amazing - I have a plant in dirt and hydro every grow. My favorite strain. Different class of high than Kali Mist, clear vs fall on the floor silly.
King I'll post some pics of my garden sometime soon, I've never had much luck posting pictures.
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