Hollow Stem Strains

Kite High said:

poppycock...the "wind" or air movement does NOT made sturdier stems...air circulation is great though just doen't do that .. hollow stems is a trait sought after in breeding for various beneficial reasons

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polyarcturus said:

there seems to be a lot of people shooting misinfo around in here, a lot of wild guesses and illogical answers.

all that needs to be said is hollow stems is a phenotype. probably of indica origin. whomever said its "rare" in indicas, needs to grow more indicas.


it is definitly not the rarest phenomena of cannabis by far. and i have not even ben breeding that long, but i have seen plenty of hollow stems, of course i was breeding for it, but not the point. its not some "rare" feature attainable by the few, its just a numbers game, grow enough seeds and your bound to find one eventually.


personally i think twins is the rarest phenomenon

but anyways i have a clone of a hollow stem, a hollow stalk from my last harvest, probably a hollow stem plant growing right now. if i can get this damn camera on the comp to work maybe ill get some pics and show you how "rare" they are.

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kona gold said:

Sorry bro.......but your wrong if you are talking about a true hollow stem.
Lots of plants start out this way, but by harvest time they get woody at the base, and if they are still hollowish, the hole inside the stem has gotten smaller and is almost solid.

This strain is extremely rare!!!!!! I cant stress this enough!!!!
The hollow stem has no fiber, you can snap it off at the very bottom.....no fiber strips will happen!
They stay hollow even at harvest, and no matter how long you grow it for......it will never get woody!!!!
The thickness of stem on a cross section of the base or anywhere on the plant will show the thickness to omly be about an eighth of an inch thick!

Twins are very common compared to this!

Let me clarfy that what i'm talking about is a variety of marijuana, not some occasional hollowish gene that comes to the surface?

Poly....i have been a breeder since '92, i know thats not as lond as some that are older than me, i have worked with some seriously exotic old school genetics, as well as all the new gear, and i have never found this in any seeds i've cracked!
And i've cracked more than most!
Only seen this once, and my dead friend and his buddy were the only ones with it!!
It was so rare that they never give the genetics out, and i understand why!
One time i got a sac from him that he mistakenly put a seeded bud in it.
I picked the mature seeds out, and when i saw him, i told him i found some seeds in the one bud, he said let me see. So i stupidly showed him the seeds. He quickly grabbed them and ate them, saying sorry bra no can have dis one!!!
They had to make a seed crop every year to keep this variety giong, cause you can't clone it, cause they've tried!

Its obvious that this is a variety that was bred for hundreds of years in the mountains of afghanistan or nepal!

And yes.......this strain focus' all it energy into thc production, not fiber production, as the strain has no fiber value!

Hope there is some old shool breeder that will know what i'm talking about!

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polyarcturus said:

cool stroy bro. straight up complete illogical bullshit. and i hate to say it like that but really your just talking out your ass.

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kona gold said:

Polyarcturus.........you must be one experienced grower/breeder. To all the other people on this thread who think that all strains are hollow, or you can clone hollow strains......you are wrong!!!!!!! Only propagation merhods are seed and possibly tissue culture! Hollow stem strains are very potent, as are clear gold resin glands! My good friend, who passed away, had an awesome old indica variety that was hollow stem. It grew mainly pod groups or clusters, similar to Grinspoon, but indica! Flavors are very unique to this strain only.....incense, hashy, skunky, coffee flavors.....and a very potent unique high u just dont find today; happy, euphoric, body high that is fully functional! Now another great quality of the hollow stem strain is harvest. You dont need clippers, you just reach down to the base and snap it off clean......zero fiber! And it is very strong outdoors as seems odd, but it survives the hawaiian wind, rain no problem! Great thread

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kona gold said:

Dont get offended cause i said your wrong.
Tell me then what makes you think i'm talking out of my ass??

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AHoleNotherLevel420 said:

lol u say but INDICA. then go on to explain the high as a sativa high lol hah indica doesnt grow line dr grinspoon

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polyarcturus said:

offended? no im not offended. experience is what makes me say your wrong.

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kona gold said:

I have seen post after post that says that rui is full of inexperienced noobie idiots

actually grow and breed, raise a family by myself, surf, camp.....ya know not jusr sitting there like im the man, cause i can type fast.

All i asked was for you to tell me whar part you thought was me talking out my ass, and you give me this moronic reply???

1) those where probably post made be me
2) not to make a competition, but i have far more hobbies than the ones you listed, but those are things i do as well. i also grow vegitables, mushrooms, some ornimentals, repair and build car, computers, hike, exercise daily, , and more. the point is my life is not dull the computer, since losing mine in recent robbery is not the top priority anymore but i do find enjoyment chatting for an hour from time to time when i did have it.
3)the strain you are talking about, could be a strain, but that is not what hollow stems are, sounds like a mutant strain to me, like grindspoon and few others. use your brain we where never talking about mutants or strains we were talking about the hollow stem pheno.

so why are you arguing?

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polyarcturus said:

kona gold said:

I have seen post after post that says that rui is full of inexperienced noobie idiots

actually grow and breed, raise a family by myself, surf, camp.....ya know not jusr sitting there like im the man, cause i can type fast.

All i asked was for you to tell me whar part you thought was me talking out my ass, and you give me this moronic reply???

1) those where probably post made be me
2) not to make a competition, but i have far more hobbies than the ones you listed, but those are things i do as well. i also grow vegitables, mushrooms, some ornimentals, repair and build car, computers, hike, exercise daily, , and more. the point is my life is not dull the computer, since losing mine in recent robbery is not the top priority anymore but i do find enjoyment chatting for an hour from time to time when i did have it.
3)the strain you are talking about, could be a strain, but that is not what hollow stems are, sounds like a mutant strain to me, like grindspoon and few others. use your brain we where never talking about mutants or strains we were talking about the hollow stem pheno.

so why are you arguing?

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I replied with that, because all i was trying to do was share some knowledge of one of the uniquist(if thats a word) strains i've come across, and i felt like i was being called full of shit for some reason.

I do understand that most are talking about a pheno from their seeds, but i just wanted them, and u to know their was an actual strain like that.

But from some of the responses i read.....it bums me out that their is very limited knowledge among newer growers about exotic older strains.
Some of the greatest weed i've smoked, and grown, werent estecially beautiful.
One of the best and most potent strains i grew only grew with cluster of huge golden green pods, barely any leaf, kinda like Grinspoon. You would pluck off about three or four pods for a bong hit, and about 10-15 for a fat joint. The flavor was like a sweet candy lemon pledge and was a very strong flavor. This was the most cough inducing strain i ever came across. I was and still am known for taking the biggest shacks without coushing....even from 4' ers that are topped with bubble. Not trying to brag, i was just blessed with a huge chest cavity, and the mind crushing high lasted for hours n hours.
Point of my rambling is that it seem that alot of newer grower only know strains from what seed breeder tells them, and the results they get. When i started there were no seed companies available so it was all up to what chronic you came across that had a few beans in it, of if you were lucky to know someone cool that would hook you up. So you found the sickest pheno's and bred them.
Now a days it mainly comes from a seed bank. I've noticed that, since bc bud hit america, that seed breeder concerns are mainly bud structure and amount of resin. Almost every strain now has lage tight buds with massive resin production. They stopped focusing on the unique qualities, and flavor and potency have diminished. The buds have to look a certain way, just look at the seed bank pics of their strains.
So i was just trying to show people that these rare varieties still exist to some degree, and hopefully get sought out by breeders that aren't concerned that eveything has to look like kush to sell.

Kush, was always a good strain, but not concidered top grade, cause its not that strong. The stone only lasts an hour or two, and it makes you sleepy is smoke to much.

Sorry Poly for my reactiveness

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kona gold said:

polyarcturus said:

kona gold said:

I have seen post after post that says that rui is full of inexperienced noobie idiots

actually grow and breed, raise a family by myself, surf, camp.....ya know not jusr sitting there like im the man, cause i can type fast.

All i asked was for you to tell me whar part you thought was me talking out my ass, and you give me this moronic reply???



I replied with that, because all i was trying to do was share some knowledge of one of the uniquist(if thats a word) strains i've come across, and i felt like i was being called full of shit for some reason.

I do understand that most are talking about a pheno from their seeds, but i just wanted them, and u to know their was an actual strain like that.

But from some of the responses i read.....it bums me out that their is very limited knowledge among newer growers about exotic older strains.
Some of the greatest weed i've smoked, and grown, werent estecially beautiful.
One of the best and most potent strains i grew only grew with cluster of huge golden green pods, barely any leaf, kinda like Grinspoon. You would pluck off about three or four pods for a bong hit, and about 10-15 for a fat joint. The flavor was like a sweet candy lemon pledge and was a very strong flavor. This was the most cough inducing strain i ever came across. I was and still am known for taking the biggest shacks without coushing....even from 4' ers that are topped with bubble. Not trying to brag, i was just blessed with a huge chest cavity, and the mind crushing high lasted for hours n hours.
Point of my rambling is that it seem that alot of newer grower only know strains from what seed breeder tells them, and the results they get. When i started there were no seed companies available so it was all up to what chronic you came across that had a few beans in it, of if you were lucky to know someone cool that would hook you up. So you found the sickest pheno's and bred them.
Now a days it mainly comes from a seed bank. I've noticed that, since bc bud hit america, that seed breeder concerns are mainly bud structure and amount of resin. Almost every strain now has lage tight buds with massive resin production. They stopped focusing on the unique qualities, and flavor and potency have diminished. The buds have to look a certain way, just look at the seed bank pics of their strains.
So i was just trying to show people that these rare varieties still exist to some degree, and hopefully get sought out by breeders that aren't concerned that eveything has to look like kush to sell.

Kush, was always a good strain, but not concidered top grade, cause its not that strong. The stone only lasts an hour or two, and it makes you sleepy is smoke to much.

Sorry Poly for my reactiveness

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yes im sorry to have riled you up.

thats last post clears everything up, i would love to come across a mutant strain like that(or make one) its just not that common at all, but knowing a new mutation gives me something to search for.

but any more strains are Bs the quality and time put into strains from the past just arent there any more. whomever bred the strain your talking about probably took years to do.

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