How Do We Eradicate Religion From Modern Society?

Hepheastus420 said:

Well yeah, half of them are fake.
Jesus actually used to hang out with thieves and prostitutes. He thought they were better people than the fake hypocrite people that judge to hard. Ha he would rather hang out with you then the fake people in church, lol. Oh, I was kinda confused on the mawmaw thing, lol. Well my thoughts still apply to her.

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there honestly should be more christian believers like you cause i can respect someone who follows jesus, but has questioned it and looked at other answers to our existance. not those radicals tho and im talkin on both sides theist and atheist.

Hepheastus420 said:

...Jesus actually used to hang out with thieves and prostitutes...

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...including right at the very end. cn

I distrust those people who know so well what their religion wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.

If you are to believe in anything, do not believe in god... because it gives you the excuse to keep living life as you always have been, which is very very easy.

Believe in love, peace, and compassion... and you will be forced to observe yourself in everything you do or say, which will inevitably force you to change your behaviors, which is very very hard.

above all else... believe in yourself


"with great power comes great responsibility, with great knowledge comes even greater responsibility"

What is it that we should all be trying to do? We should all be trying to make the world a better place. But everyone is all talk and no action.

Their beliefs give them the excuse to sit around and talk, while doing nothing. So they can go on with their lives exactly as they were living it before.

Buying things they don't need instead of using their money responsibly to help others. They buy their new clothes without ever having to think about the people thousands of miles away who have NONE! These are just a couple examples.

Until they realize the truth, they will continue to believe what they want so they can keep living life the way they like, instead of giving back to the world, giving back to the universe.

They don't have to change because they think the world will change for them, or that it is out of their control... it is an excuse.

And they will sit, and they will wait. And nothing will happen because none of them are going to change their behaviors.

None of them will give up things they don't need, to people who need them. None of them will give up their comforts, to make others more comfortable. None of them will give up their fortunes, to help less unfortunates.

It is about equalizing our happiness with the rest of the worlds, and our beliefs give us the excuse to sit and wait, to do nothing about our own behavior. To continue being selfish in the guise of self-lessness.

Unless we change our behaviors, the world will stay in the hell it is in right now… until it may be too late.

All talk and no action.

We must all change our behavior to be better parts of ourselves.

But no one will... because we like our beliefs, homes, our video games, our shoes and clothes, our burgers and French fries, our drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.

To make change we must be change, but our beliefs give us the excuse to keep doing the same things over and over again without ever taking full responsibility for what we are doing, for every action we take, and how it affects EVERYONE… not just the people and places that surround you.

No one wants to give up what they have become attached to, whether it be materialistic items we don’t need, or beliefs we don’t need; they would rather turn their back on the world and be selfish, while parading around like they are making a difference, when they keep making the same decisions about their lives over and over again. The same patterns, which will not help the world but continue to drive it deeper and deeper into self-destruction.
All talk, and no action.


I believe to wake up, is to become utterly conscious about every single decision you make, about every single thought you think… and to take responsibility in doing what you know is right for each and every one of those decisions or thoughts.

I can lead you to water but I cannot make you drink, I can help you hear but I cannot make you listen, I can open your eyes but I cannot make you see. He who has ears let him hear, he who has eyes let him see.

Do what’s easy and continue to live life the way you like, the way you always have been, or do what’s hard and really truly believe in YOURSELF. not god.

dont be an excuse, be an example

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:

no hate from me sunshine , i have no hatred, no god to promote or force upon people, my lack of belief has never invaded other countrys, and my disbelief has never killed anyone , can you say the same for your twisted christianity ? ..............thought not .............my mum allways said ' if you aint got nuffin nice to say , then dont say nuffin;

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My Aunt Nancy always used to say, "if you don't have anything nice to say about somebody, come sit next to me."
My Uncle Bill, a front line artillery man said, "there are no atheists in fox holes." So I don't mind telling the world, I despise atheists. Not all religions create war. I can trust a god fearing man. Most atheists are good for nothing but compost.

So you're more inclined to trust somebody who does good deeds based off the fear of punishment if they don't than a person who does good not out of fear but because they know it's right?

I sure hope you put that helmet on before you go outside, wouldn't want you to hurt yourself..

actually, we dont have to do anything

religion eradicates itself

(as brains do progress, deeper understandings of the world and the self just make the bible inadequate to such an extent its soon an mostly forgotten curio, same goes for the other religions, either they will evolve or die out and something new take their place and in the end that wont be "religion" nor anything resembling it (perhaps at most a way of life)

and brains do progress and it seems faster and faster

iq numbers rise with each generation.

sso said:

and brains do progress and it seems faster and faster

iq numbers rise with each generation.

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To me this does not suggest rising intelligence, but rather a flaw in the way we measure it. cn

cannabineer said:

To me this does not suggest rising intelligence, but rather a flaw in the way we measure it. cn

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iq is a very flawed way to test intelligence.

but intelligence is on the rise none the less, (perhaps, better to say, understanding, we understand, more and more)

We eradicate mankind. Afterall religion is just mans way of controlling people.

However you cannot eradicate Jesus. The one and true Lord as well the creator of all that is.
Jesus is not a religion. He is salvation and eternal life whom wants to have a relationship with you

sso said:

iq is a very flawed way to test intelligence.

but intelligence is on the rise none the less, (perhaps, better to say, understanding, we understand, more and more)

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I'm not convinced of that. We have more history, technology communication ... things to talk about and ways to do so. But basic brain spark? If anything I worry that it's getting plowed under by Facebook, Wal-Mart, Idol ... "good enough" in all its guises.Of course, maybe I'm just being a grump. cn

boneheadbob said:

We eradicate mankind. Afterall religion is just mans way of controlling people.

However you cannot eradicate Jesus. The one and true Lord as well the creator of all that is.
Jesus is not a religion. He is salvation and eternal life whom wants to have a relationship with you

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oh right , who made this jesus thing then ?

boneheadbob said:

We eradicate mankind. Afterall religion is just mans way of controlling people.

However you cannot eradicate Jesus. The one and true Lord as well the creator of all that is.
Jesus is not a religion. He is salvation and eternal life whom wants to have a relationship with you

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So Jesus created the entire universe, galaxy upon galaxy, so that he could have a special relationship with one species of primates on one planet orbiting one star. Jesus then qualifies this relationship with a test that is "can you believe in me without any evidence". If the answer is no, he allows you to be set on fire and tormented eternally, if the answer is yes, he gives you a list of rules to follow and hits you up for money.

Heisenberg said:

So Jesus created the entire universe, galaxy upon galaxy, so that he could have a special relationship with one species of primates on one planet orbiting one star. Jesus then qualifies this relationship with a test that is "can you believe in me without any evidence". If the answer is no, he allows you to be set on fire and tormented eternally, if the answer is yes, he gives you a list of rules to follow and hits you up for money.

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Who said he doesn't care for other species in the galaxy?

Not all branches of Christianity believes in hell, so he might or might not send you to hell, we don't know. You don't know either, so you can't go around saying if you don't believe him you will go to hell.

Many churches take money, not Jesus. I haven't seen Jesus pass around a basket to collect money for his own cash stash.

Hepheastus420 said:

Who said he doesn't care for other species in the galaxy?

Not all branches of Christianity believes in hell, so he might or might not send you to hell, we don't know. You don't know either, so you can't go around saying if you don't believe him you will go to hell.

Many churches take money, not Jesus. I haven't seen Jesus pass around a basket to collect money for his own cash stash.

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The bible says man is the chosen one, made after God's image. If there are other beings god offers salvation to, why send his only son to us? Why not mention them in the bible? Any assertion that God may care for the eternal souls of other beings can only be based on wild speculation. Biblical canon suggests nothing of the kind. Christ's word also, quite clearly, teaches about the lake of fire. I am not concerned with what some 'branches' of Christianity believe, I am concerned with what Jesus taught. If you do not think Jesus was serious about eternal punishment then you are bending over backwards to paint Jesus in a perfect light. Furthermore, I am not the one saying if you don't believe you go to hell. I was summing up the ideology and implications of bob's post. I agree people should be sure there is a hell before they threaten others with it. Jesus did not go begging for money when he was alive, but since then he's seemed to have developed a nasty gambling habit or shopping addiction, because his ambassadors, not his followers, but the people who spend the most time trying to be close to him and interpret his will so that they may preach it to others, never seem to get enough. When has anyone ever went to church and heard "No collection plate this week, were doing fine".

Mark 12:41-44
Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. But a poor widow came andput in two very small copper coins, worth only a fraction of a penny. Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on.

It seems Jesus didn't have a problem with cash, and in fact offered a sort of encouragement that people should give something even if they are in poverty.

So yes, if we accept this

However you cannot eradicate Jesus. The one and true Lord as well the creator of all that is.
Jesus is not a religion. He is salvation and eternal life whom wants to have a relationship with you

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We also must accept this

So Jesus created the entire universe, galaxy upon galaxy, so that he could have a special relationship with one species of primates on one planet orbiting one star. Jesus then qualifies this relationship with a test that is "can you believe in me without any evidence". If the answer is no, he allows you to be set on fire and tormented eternally, if the answer is yes, he gives you a list of rules to follow and hits you up for money.

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Unless you want to be inconsistent or engage in special pleading.

Hepheastus420 said:

Who said he doesn't care for other species in the galaxy?

Not all branches of Christianity believes in hell, so he might or might not send you to hell, we don't know. You don't know either, so you can't go around saying if you don't believe him you will go to hell
Many churches take money, not Jesus. I haven't seen Jesus pass around a basket to collect money for his own cash stash.

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dosent the fact theres different branches of christianity ring alarm bells for you ? only one can be correct right ? lol it would be great just to see jesus nether mind him collecting money , but its never gonna happen .

cannabineer said:

I'm not convinced of that. We have more history, technology communication ... things to talk about and ways to do so. But basic brain spark? If anything I worry that it's getting plowed under by Facebook, Wal-Mart, Idol ... "good enough" in all its guises.Of course, maybe I'm just being a grump. cn

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nah, the majority are still morons,

but intelligent people are no longer a far between rarity.

well, love is good.

there is probably life after death.

and if there is a god, he/she/it can come and say hello any time but im not gonna keep the kettle indefinetly on, god is mickey mouse to me (unless god decides to make it othervise lol)

´s my attitude about it.